Re: mutt 1.05 TLS socket terminated?

2019-08-25 Thread Tom Fowle
On Sun, Aug 25, 2019 at 09:39:42AM +0200, li...@2ion.de wrote:
> 1st step: Does it happen with other email clients and the same remote
> server? E.g. do use msmtp, Thunderbird etc against the same server for a
> while.
> 
> Guess: This looks more like the server / the remote end is shutting the
> TLS connection down. As you know the server and the port, connect with
> openssl s_client a couple of times (it also supports STARTTLS with EHLO,
> though you need to get the exact command from the man page
> openssl-s_client(1)) and speak some SMTP. Perhaps you can reproduce the
> problem?
> 
> Guess: Could it be that the remote end drops you when under load? Do you
> have access to the remote server logs? If not, your service provider
> might be able to look up potential errors in their log.
Thanks for suggestions, use only if the problem recurrs which it hasn't yet.
Tom Fowle


Re: mutt 1.05 TLS socket terminated?

2019-08-25 Thread lists
1st step: Does it happen with other email clients and the same remote
server? E.g. do use msmtp, Thunderbird etc against the same server for a
while.

Guess: This looks more like the server / the remote end is shutting the
TLS connection down. As you know the server and the port, connect with
openssl s_client a couple of times (it also supports STARTTLS with EHLO,
though you need to get the exact command from the man page
openssl-s_client(1)) and speak some SMTP. Perhaps you can reproduce the
problem?

Guess: Could it be that the remote end drops you when under load? Do you
have access to the remote server logs? If not, your service provider
might be able to look up potential errors in their log.


mutt 1.05 TLS socket terminated?

2019-08-24 Thread Tom Fowle
Since I posted this problem, I did a
apt-get update
for other reasons and the tls problem seems to have disappeared.
(So far anyhow)

Tom Fowle WA6IVG


Using mutt 1.5.23 with Debian 8 jessie.
I am getting the following problem while reading messages.

approximately:
"The TLS socket was improperly terminated.
can not copy messages."

This appears on the screen for only just long enough for my screen reader to
grab it but dissappears before I can copy or check it..

I then have the usual top line menu and a blank screen.

Being simplistic by nature I just exit mutt and restart but all messages
which have been marked for deletion remain in the inbox and unless i have
kept carefull track of the last read message number before the TLS error I
have to trundle through all the previously read messages till I find the
first unmarked message.

This problem is becomming more frequent, often two occurrences in a
hundred message session.

Before I get into just updating mutt and debian as the most likely
resolutions, would like to know if this is a known problem and whether the
mutt or "OS" updates are more likely to fix it.

PLS don't yell at me for not being up to date,  I hate updating.  So now I'm
paying the price.


TNX
Tom Fowle WA6IVG



Re: mutt 1.05 TLS socket terminated?

2019-06-27 Thread Tom Fowle
On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 12:10:06PM -0700, Kevin J. McCarthy wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 10:39:01AM -0700, Tom Fowle wrote:
> >Before I get into just updating mutt and debian as the most likely
> >resolutions, would like to know if this is a known problem and whether the
> >mutt or "OS" updates are more likely to fix it.
> 
> No, I don't think upgrading will help with the problem.  I get it too when I
> use IMAP, so I more often use mbsync and work locally.
> 
> >PLS don't yell at me for not being up to date, I hate updating.  So now
> >I'm paying the price.
> 
> No yelling, but perhaps some enticing.  :-) Starting with mutt 1.11.0, there
> is a new config variable, $imap_qresyc, which I've tested against Fastmail.
> It's still a "beta" thing, and may have some glitches, but you may want to
> give it a try if you get the opportunity to upgrade.
> 
> -- 
> Kevin J. McCarthy
> GPG Fingerprint: 8975 A9B3 3AA3 7910 385C  5308 ADEF 7684 8031 6BDA

Thanks Kevin, I'll hang on to this till the number of errors makes me
upgrade
then try it.
Tom Fowle


Re: mutt 1.05 TLS socket terminated?

2019-06-26 Thread Kevin J. McCarthy

On Wed, Jun 26, 2019 at 10:39:01AM -0700, Tom Fowle wrote:
Before I get into just updating mutt and debian as the most likely 
resolutions, would like to know if this is a known problem and whether 
the mutt or "OS" updates are more likely to fix it.


No, I don't think upgrading will help with the problem.  I get it too 
when I use IMAP, so I more often use mbsync and work locally.


PLS don't yell at me for not being up to date, I hate updating.  So now 
I'm paying the price.


No yelling, but perhaps some enticing.  :-) Starting with mutt 1.11.0, 
there is a new config variable, $imap_qresyc, which I've tested against 
Fastmail.  It's still a "beta" thing, and may have some glitches, but 
you may want to give it a try if you get the opportunity to upgrade.


--
Kevin J. McCarthy
GPG Fingerprint: 8975 A9B3 3AA3 7910 385C  5308 ADEF 7684 8031 6BDA


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mutt 1.05 TLS socket terminated?

2019-06-26 Thread Tom Fowle
Using mutt 1.5.23 with Debian 8 jessie.
I am getting the following problem while reading messages.

approximately:
"The TLS socket was improperly terminated.
can not copy messages."

This appears on the screen for only just long enough for my screen reader to
grab it but dissappears before I can copy or check it..

I then have the usual top line menu and a blank screen.

Being simplistic by nature I just exit mutt and restart but all messages
which have been marked for deletion remain in the inbox and unless i have
kept carefull track of the last read message number before the TLS error I
have to trundle through all the previously read messages till I find the
first unmarked message.

This problem is becomming more frequent, often two occurrences in a
hundred message session.

Before I get into just updating mutt and debian as the most likely
resolutions, would like to know if this is a known problem and whether the
mutt or "OS" updates are more likely to fix it.

PLS don't yell at me for not being up to date,  I hate updating.  So now I'm
paying the price.


TNX
Tom Fowle WA6IVG