Re: how things get messed up

2010-02-11 Thread Martijn Tonies
Hello John, About 5 years ago, I was asked to write a php app for my department. The app keeps track of graduate school applicants to my department at the university. The main data elements are the scores each professor gives to each applicant. There are only about 400 applicants each year so

Re: how things get messed up

2010-02-11 Thread David Giragosian
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 8:56 AM, Martijn Tonies m.ton...@upscene.comwrote: Hello John, About 5 years ago, I was asked to write a php app for my department. The app keeps track of graduate school applicants to my department at the university. The main data elements are the scores each

RE: how things get messed up

2010-02-11 Thread Jerry Schwartz
-Original Message- From: Cui Shijun [mailto:rancp...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 10:53 PM To: Ilya Kazakevich Cc: John G. Heim; mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: Re: how things get messed up Hello Ilya, I think store files in DB has no complicated reasons, just for

RE: help me out for this scenario

2010-02-11 Thread Jerry Schwartz
-Original Message- From: MuraliKrishna [mailto:murali_kris...@arthaoptions.com] Sent: Thursday, February 11, 2010 12:52 AM To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: help me out for this scenario I have a table like as follws Emp_id, first_login , second_login [JS] I think you are asking for

RE: how things get messed up

2010-02-11 Thread Jerry Schwartz
-Original Message- From: John G. Heim [mailto:jh...@math.wisc.edu] Sent: Wednesday, February 10, 2010 2:09 PM To: mysql@lists.mysql.com Subject: how things get messed up It is amazing how often quick dirty turns out just being dirty in the end. [JS] Hee-hee... How right you are. I've

Re: how things get messed up

2010-02-11 Thread Joerg Bruehe
Hi Ilya, everybody! Ilya Kazakevich wrote: [[...]] IMHO: Storing files in DB is probably bad idea. Here are some advantages of storing files on filesystem: [[...]] We could discuss them individually, but I agree several of your points are valid. The remaining question is which importance

Re: how things get messed up

2010-02-11 Thread Jochem van Dieten
On 2/10/10, Ilya Kazakevich wrote: There was a joke in russian PHP club: why strore images in database? Are you going to have a full text search on them? Yes. That is what EXIF data is for, isn't it? And considering this is about PDFs any inability of a database engine to do a full text search

Re: how things get messed up

2010-02-11 Thread Martijn Tonies
I think store files in DB has no complicated reasons, just for convenience. For example, I might make files automatically be backup-ed, and no budget for an independent backup solution. Thanks. Cui [JS] Storing BLOBs in a table must slow down the inner workings of the database engine. After

Help with the World.sql sample database

2010-02-11 Thread kebede teferi
Could any one lead me to a true link where I can download the world.sql sample database? Thanks.

Re: Help with the World.sql sample database

2010-02-11 Thread Carlos Proal
On 2/11/2010 11:47 AM, kebede teferi wrote: Could any one lead me to a true link where I can download the world.sql sample database? Thanks. http://dev.mysql.com/doc/index-other.html Carlos Proal -- MySQL General Mailing List For list archives: http://lists.mysql.com/mysql To

Re: Help with the World.sql sample database

2010-02-11 Thread Paul DuBois
On Feb 11, 2010, at 11:47 AM, kebede teferi wrote: Could any one lead me to a true link where I can download the world.sql sample database? Thanks. Go to: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/ Click on the Other Docs tab to get to: http://dev.mysql.com/doc/index-other.html You'll see an entry for

Re: logging of BAD queries

2010-02-11 Thread Baron Schwartz
Andy, On Tue, Feb 9, 2010 at 10:27 AM, andy knasinski a...@nrgsoft.com wrote: I've used the general and slow query log in the past, but I am trying to track down some queries from a compiled app that never seem to be hitting the DB server. My guess is that the SQL syntax is bad and never get

RE: how things get messed up

2010-02-11 Thread Jerry Schwartz
[JS] Storing BLOBs in a table must slow down the inner workings of the database engine. After all, the tables are really disk files under the covers. Can the database engine read only parts of a file record? Jerry Schwartz Well, there's where things go wrong -- first of all, a database

Re: how things get messed up

2010-02-11 Thread Johan De Meersman
On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 5:24 PM, Jerry Schwartz jschwa...@the-infoshop.comwrote: [JS] Storing BLOBs in a table must slow down the inner workings of the database engine. After all, the tables are really disk files under the covers. Can the database engine read only parts of a file record?

Re: how things get messed up

2010-02-11 Thread Martijn Tonies
[JS] Storing BLOBs in a table must slow down the inner workings of the database engine. After all, the tables are really disk files under the covers. Can the database engine read only parts of a file record? Jerry Schwartz Well, there's where things go wrong -- first of all, a database

Re: how things get messed up

2010-02-11 Thread Johan De Meersman
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:05 AM, Martijn Tonies m.ton...@upscene.comwrote: Firebird uses 1 or multiple files per database, not per table, this file has a special blob area, so to speak, and the records include a blob ID. When a client/stored routine selects a blob that isn't available in the

Re: how things get messed up

2010-02-11 Thread Johan De Meersman
On Fri, Feb 12, 2010 at 8:27 AM, Martijn Tonies m.ton...@upscene.comwrote: Sounds logical, what's also nice to see, is that even though people here tend to say don't put binaries in the database, apparently Facebook thought it would be nice to do so (for all sorts of reasons) and even took