On Sunday 06 March 2005 04:46, Tim Sailer wrote:
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:51:04PM +, Simon Kenyon wrote:
On Thursday 03 March 2005 20:37, Aaron Stewart wrote:
And subsequently by location/listing area? That would mean that
somebody in my immediate metro area, subscribing to my same
On Fri, Mar 04, 2005 at 02:51:04PM +, Simon Kenyon wrote:
On Thursday 03 March 2005 20:37, Aaron Stewart wrote:
And subsequently by location/listing area? That would mean that somebody
in my immediate metro area, subscribing to my same service, recording the
same show(s) as I did,
On Thursday 03 March 2005 20:37, Aaron Stewart wrote:
And subsequently by location/listing area? That would mean that somebody
in my immediate metro area, subscribing to my same service, recording the
same show(s) as I did, would have had to flag the commercials already for
me to take
On Thursday 03 March 2005 07:14, Maverick wrote:
how about sharing the locations of the commercials?
would need a way of accurately setting time - or a hash of the frames
a bit like cddb - somebody does an accurate commerical cut and then sends
it to a central repository
now that
Simon Kenyon wrote:
we use freedb, imdb and amazon already - so the point is moot
all you would need is:
None of those are hosted, operated, or under the control of anyone
related to MythTV which was the point being made.
Kevin
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On Thu, 03 Mar 2005 09:32:07 -0600, Kevin Kuphal [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Simon Kenyon wrote:
we use freedb, imdb and amazon already - so the point is moot
all you would need is:
None of those are hosted, operated, or under the control of anyone
related to MythTV which was the point
On Thursday 03 March 2005 10:39, Garry Cook wrote:
I've had my MythTV box up for a little over a week now, and one thing
that really kills me is when I see a commercial (watching live TV of
course) for a program that is of interest. What do I do? Stop watching
and go schedule it? Write it
You will find this suggestion from me in a number of threads in the
past (I think I first suggested it to the Replay guys 5 years ago but
they never did anything with it.) It will happen.
Actually, where it would come in handy is not just commercials (which
software today can detect) but
we use freedb, imdb and amazon already - so the point is moot
all you would need is:
channel, date and time (though additional info like program title might help)
what would be returned would be a set of cut point
you would probably need to be able to slide them around as a group to cater
Actually, where it would come in handy is not just commercials (which
software today can detect) but other things like pitching changes, boring
academy awards acceptance speeches, long driving scenes to no purpose etc.
This gives me an idea.. how about having more than one sort of flag?
- Over
a.) every instance of the show puts the commercials in the same place
b.) the same show airing on different channels have the commercials in the
same place (SkyONE has radically different commercial placement than, say,
the sciFI channel).
c.) the commercials are the same length (could be gotten
On Thursday 03 March 2005 15:32, Kevin Kuphal wrote:
Simon Kenyon wrote:
we use freedb, imdb and amazon already - so the point is moot
all you would need is:
None of those are hosted, operated, or under the control of anyone
related to MythTV which was the point being made.
this is not
On Thursday 03 March 2005 17:35, Aaron Stewart wrote:
Problem is that one must assume that:
a.) every instance of the show puts the commercials in the same place
b.) the same show airing on different channels have the commercials in the
same place (SkyONE has radically different commercial
And subsequently by location/listing area? That would mean that somebody
in my immediate metro area, subscribing to my same service, recording the
same show(s) as I did, would have had to flag the commercials already for
me to take advantage of it.
Again, possible, but it strikes me as a science
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 08:39:06AM -0700, Garry Cook wrote:
I've had my MythTV box up for a little over a week now, and one thing
that really kills me is when I see a commercial (watching live TV of
course) for a program that is of interest. What do I do? Stop watching
and go schedule it?
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 10:50:57AM -0500, Maverick wrote:
Actually, where it would come in handy is not just commercials (which
software today can detect) but other things like pitching changes, boring
academy awards acceptance speeches, long driving scenes to no purpose etc.
That's cool.
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 08:53:01AM -0800, Chris Petersen wrote:
This is pretty standard -- shows are edited such that there are
commercial breaks in certain places. However, it does NOT account for
the commercial breaks being the same length in each region (remember,
commercials are
On Thursday 03 March 2005 14:51, Brad Templeton wrote:
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 08:53:01AM -0800, Chris Petersen wrote:
This is pretty standard -- shows are edited such that there are
commercial breaks in certain places. However, it does NOT account
for
the commercial breaks being the
Not necessarily so.. Depending on reception quality (I know that my
channel 3 comes in worse than most), there may be more or less latency in
blank frame detection. Ditto to positions that are set by user when
flagging.
On Thu, 3 Mar 2005, Brad Templeton wrote:
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 01:59:04PM -0800, Aaron Stewart wrote:
Not necessarily so.. Depending on reception quality (I know that my
channel 3 comes in worse than most), there may be more or less latency in
blank frame detection. Ditto to positions that are set by user when
flagging.
You
Brad Templeton wrote:
If you say, Let's stay away because of that you are saying let's stay
away from integrating the best tools.
Which is indeed the victory the MPAA wants.
It's good to hear at least one voice of reason on this list when it
comes to torrents.
The idea that this project is
how about sharing the locations of the commercials?
would need a way of accurately setting time - or a hash of the frames
a bit like cddb - somebody does an accurate commerical cut and then sends it
to a central repository
now that would be cool
You must be on the same wave length of me
On Thu, Mar 03, 2005 at 02:14:58AM -0500, Maverick wrote:
You must be on the same wave length of me and my friends. We where
recently talking about this functionality, so only the first person
mark commercials (manual, ie, not auto flagged) and submit their
locations to the network. Then
The only way I can think that sharing TV programs would not annoy the
powers that be would possibly be if you were forced to watch, or at
least let play a set of commericials.
It'd never happen. Commercials are targetted regionally. You don't
want to send a Safeway commercial to viewers in
On Monday 28 February 2005 08:00, Chris Petersen wrote:
The only way I can think that sharing TV programs would not annoy the
powers that be would possibly be if you were forced to watch, or at
least let play a set of commericials.
how about sharing the locations of the commercials?
would
easy to be construed as a tool for piracy. One user picked up by an
automated filename-matching bot and found to be using mythtv +
officially-sanctioned-torrentocracy for sharing a copyrighted program
When this comes up, may we use a word other than copyrighted to
represent the program
When this comes up, may we use a word other than copyrighted to
represent the program content of Hollywood? Most works are copyrighted,
but a substantial portion (particularly in computing) are available
under free licenses.
I generally use copyright vs copyleft. GPL is copyleft. Don't know
Thanks! Updated in my cvs. Keep em coming if you got em, it
certainly needs it :).
Gary
On Sat, 26 Feb 2005 17:19:58 -0800 (PST), John Miller
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Simple patch against the recent DB changes.
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The developers and much of the myth community have made it clear that
torrents are NOT supported, not least because we want the machines and
the project that we spent so much time working on to remain to
free of legal burdens.
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This is really truly such an unfortunate attitude. I really
This is really truly such an unfortunate attitude. I really
appreciate this patch. Many other myth users including yourself I'm
sure appreciate this patch. Bit torrent is not illegal technology.
No, bittorrent is not illegal. Nor is mythtv. But combining them in
such a way that makes it
On Sun, Feb 27, 2005 at 02:26:38PM -0800, Chris Petersen wrote:
This is really truly such an unfortunate attitude. I really
appreciate this patch. Many other myth users including yourself I'm
sure appreciate this patch. Bit torrent is not illegal technology.
No, bittorrent is not
Bottom line, this list is operated under the sufferance of the
developer(s). Though IANAD for Myth, I certainly understand their
desire to avoid the appearance of impropriety.
As with any OSS, develop add-ons and discuss them in another forum,
just respect the developers' wishes that this
BitTorrent is not illegal. We all know that.
Integrating BitTorrent into MythTV is not illegal.
Again, we all know that.
However, it is not us that you need to convince.
There are several groups out there (RIAA, MPAA and
others) who, if the plugin became official, might put
MythTV in their
The only way I can think that sharing TV programs would not annoy the
powers that be would possibly be if you were forced to watch, or at
least let play a set of commericials.
To be honest I don't think that is possible to fully secure unless you
use non general purpose hardware for the playback.
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