Re: [Nagios-users] Monitoring temperatures on Cisco equipment

2011-01-27 Thread mail
On Wed, Jan 26, 2011 at 8:47 PM, Jeffrey Watts
jeffrey.w.wa...@gmail.com wrote:
 I'm looking to monitor temperature on some various Cisco equipment (2821,
 3750, 4948, 6509, etc).  I've looked at the check_catalyst_temp.pl and
 check_env_stats.py plugins, which both look in .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.13.1.  I see
 and understand the basic mechanisms of these checks.
 What I don't understand is why both require warning and critical thresholds.
  From what I can tell, both walk ciscoEnvMonTemperatureStatusDescr,
 check ciscoEnvMonTemperatureState (and alert accordingly) AND also
 check ciscoEnvMonTemperatureStatusValue to see if it's out of the warning
 and critical thresholds specified on the command line.  I understand why one
 would want to be able to set custom thresholds (that would override normal
 and warning states).  What I don't understand is why are they required?
  Is there a reason, or is it just an oversight?  I don't have much
 experience monitoring network equipment, so I'm wondering if there's a
 reason for it.
 On that same note, does anyone know where those thresholds are stored?  I
 see in the same OID that there is ciscoEnvMonTemperatureThreshold, but
 that's an absolute upper bound before a forced shutdown occurs.  I'm
 assuming that the thresholds for warning and
 critical ciscoEnvMonTemperatureState must be stored somewhere else.  Does
 anyone know where that is?
 Unless there's a good reason for requiring -w and -c, I'll probably change
 one of the plugins to not require them.
 Thanks in advance,
 Jeffrey.


I maybe misunderstanding you here but isn’t the whole point of running
Nagios checks to return Normal, Warning or Critical, so you can alert
agents them?
What would be the point in just returning the value and doing nothing with it?

Regards,
Rithcie



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Re: [Nagios-users] Monitoring temperatures on Cisco equipment

2011-01-27 Thread Ortner, Gerald
Hi,

We use 
check_cisco_envmonhttps://www.monitoringexchange.org/inventory/Check-Plugins/Network/Cisco/check_cisco_envmon
 to monitor our Cisco equipment. It's using the  ciscoEnvMonState value 
only.
I don't know if the thresholds are available through snmp,  but you can view 
them by entering  show environment alarm thresholds on the device.

gerald



Von: Jeffrey Watts [mailto:jeffrey.w.wa...@gmail.com]
Gesendet: Mittwoch, 26. Jänner 2011 21:47
An: Nagios Users List
Betreff: [Nagios-users] Monitoring temperatures on Cisco equipment

I'm looking to monitor temperature on some various Cisco equipment (2821, 3750, 
4948, 6509, etc).  I've looked at the 
check_catalyst_temp.plhttp://check_catalyst_temp.pl and check_env_stats.py 
plugins, which both look in .1.3.6.1.4.1.9.9.13.1.  I see and understand the 
basic mechanisms of these checks.

What I don't understand is why both require warning and critical thresholds.  
From what I can tell, both walk ciscoEnvMonTemperatureStatusDescr, check 
ciscoEnvMonTemperatureState (and alert accordingly) AND also check 
ciscoEnvMonTemperatureStatusValue to see if it's out of the warning and 
critical thresholds specified on the command line.  I understand why one would 
want to be able to set custom thresholds (that would override normal and 
warning states).  What I don't understand is why are they required?  Is there 
a reason, or is it just an oversight?  I don't have much experience monitoring 
network equipment, so I'm wondering if there's a reason for it.

On that same note, does anyone know where those thresholds are stored?  I see 
in the same OID that there is ciscoEnvMonTemperatureThreshold, but that's an 
absolute upper bound before a forced shutdown occurs.  I'm assuming that the 
thresholds for warning and critical ciscoEnvMonTemperatureState must be 
stored somewhere else.  Does anyone know where that is?

Unless there's a good reason for requiring -w and -c, I'll probably change one 
of the plugins to not require them.

Thanks in advance,
Jeffrey.


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Re: [Nagios-users] Monitoring temperatures on Cisco equipment

2011-01-27 Thread Jeffrey Watts
I think you misunderstand.  Those two plugins return WARNING or CRITICAL if
one of the two things occur:

1) If the ciscoEnvMonTemperatureState is not normal.
2) If the passed -w and -c values are less
than ciscoEnvMonTemperatureStatusValue.

What I'm asking is why #2 is _required_.  I can understand it as an optional
check if you want to override the device's defaults, but not as mandatory
behavior.  Cisco devices are smart and know when they're warm or hot.
 That's the purpose of the ciscoEnvMonTemperatureState.  I'm just trying to
find out why folks feel that overriding Cisco's defaults is necessary
behavior.

Thanks,
Jeffrey.

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:05 AM, m...@catsnest.co.uk wrote:


 I maybe misunderstanding you here but isn’t the whole point of running
 Nagios checks to return Normal, Warning or Critical, so you can alert
 agents them?
 What would be the point in just returning the value and doing nothing with
 it?

 Regards,
 Rithcie


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Re: [Nagios-users] Monitoring temperatures on Cisco equipment

2011-01-27 Thread Jeffrey Watts
Thanks Gerald, that's exactly what I was looking for!

Jeffrey.

On Thu, Jan 27, 2011 at 3:51 AM, Ortner, Gerald gerald.ort...@gespag.atwrote:

  Hi,



 We use 
 check_cisco_envmonhttps://www.monitoringexchange.org/inventory/Check-Plugins/Network/Cisco/check_cisco_envmonto
  monitor our Cisco equipment. It’s using the  ciscoEnvMonState value
 only.

 I don’t know if the thresholds are available through snmp,  but you can
 view them by entering  “show environment alarm thresholds” on the device.



 gerald



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Re: [Nagios-users] Monitoring temperatures on Cisco equipment

2011-01-27 Thread C. Bensend

 I think you misunderstand.  Those two plugins return WARNING or CRITICAL
 if
 one of the two things occur:

 1) If the ciscoEnvMonTemperatureState is not normal.
 2) If the passed -w and -c values are less
 than ciscoEnvMonTemperatureStatusValue.

 What I'm asking is why #2 is _required_.  I can understand it as an
 optional
 check if you want to override the device's defaults, but not as mandatory
 behavior.  Cisco devices are smart and know when they're warm or hot.
  That's the purpose of the ciscoEnvMonTemperatureState.  I'm just trying
 to
 find out why folks feel that overriding Cisco's defaults is necessary
 behavior.

While I don't have any insider knowledge into *why* it is the way
it is, I'll take a guess - most third-party plugins come into
existence because they satisfied someone's specific needs.  Perhaps
the original author needed to further narrow the range of good-vs-bad,
who knows?

I'd say modify it to your needs.  :)

Benny  (yes, *that* Benny, hi Jeffrey)


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