Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflectiveattacks?

2003-01-20 Thread E.B. Dreger
VA> Date: Mon, 20 Jan 2003 19:59:08 -0800 (PST) VA> From: Vadim Antonov VA> Well, blocking TCP SYNs is not a way to block establishment VA> of sessions between _cooperating_ hosts. With cooperating hosts, anything goes. Hack up the IP stack, and have specially-crafted DNS queries carry the ISN

Re: uunet

2003-01-20 Thread Rubens Kuhl Jr.
Someone might read this as inflation of customer base numbers... has this company been involved in scandals recently ? :-) Rubens - Original Message - From: "Vadim Antonov" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Scott Granados" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 20,

Re: clear blue sf with out power

2003-01-20 Thread Scott Granados
I've heard more of a payment / pgne issue but again not sure. Also other carriers in that buildeing including level3 I believe and no issues from them. Also no power issues mentioned on kron, kgo, kntv or ktvu either nor ksfo's radio so uh um yeah. Oh and while writing this, a call to pgne yiel

Re: clear blue sf with out power

2003-01-20 Thread Brian Wallingford
Over a day of downtime due to a short? Whose side is the short on - PG&E's or Navisite's? There's no excuse for a delay this long, on either end. Of course, all info regarding this outage has been second-hand, so I'll reserve judgment. I'd have expected some level of local news coverage if PG&

Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflectiveattacks?

2003-01-20 Thread Vadim Antonov
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Avleen Vig wrote: > > On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > > > > I was refering specifically to end user workstations. For example home > > > machines on dial up or broadband connections. > > > A lot of broadband providers already prohibit running servers an

Lorain A50B50 Rectifier

2003-01-20 Thread Brian Wallingford
I know this isn't an equipment list, but exhaustive searches have afforded no useable results. I'm in need of the above-mentioned rectifier. If anyone has such in stock, kindly send a quote off-list. Thanks in advance, Brian

RE: Cheap SONET mux recommendations

2003-01-20 Thread Bender, Andrew
Don't think you can find products *without* NEBS/DC for products of this type, but have a look at: http://www.oasystel.com/ Regards, Andrew taqua.com > -Original Message- > From: Mathew Lodge [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] > Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 7:17 PM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] >

Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflectiveattacks?

2003-01-20 Thread Avleen Vig
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > > Indeed it does break that. P2P clients: Mostly transfer illegal content. > > As much as a lot of people love using these, I'm sure most realise they're > > on borrowed time in their current state. > > And I'm sure that if they were gone tomorr

Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?

2003-01-20 Thread Scott Granados
And their are legal uses for p2p. I have a customer who works with some of these technologies for legal and approved file transfers like game publishing. - Original Message - From: "Christopher L. Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Avleen Vig" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Cc: "Christopher L. Morrow

Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflectiveattacks?

2003-01-20 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Avleen Vig wrote: > > Doesn't this stop kazaa/morpheus/gnutella/FTP/ > chats>? This is a problematic setup, and woudl require the cable modem > > provider to maintain a quickly changing 'firewall' :( I understand the > > want to do it, but I'm not sure its practical to see it

Cheap SONET mux recommendations

2003-01-20 Thread Mathew Lodge
I'm looking for recommendations for a small, cheap SONET ADM for our labs. It doesn't have to be fancy, just basic ADM and TDM mux functionality -- we don't care about NEBS, redundancy, remote management, cabling simplicity, power etc. Our ideal system would take in a channelized OC3/STM-1 and

Re: uunet

2003-01-20 Thread Vadim Antonov
I have a suggestion for UUNET's backbone engineering folks: Please, create a fake customer ID and publish it, so outside folks could file trouble reports regarding routing issues within UUNET. --vadim On Sat, 18 Jan 2003, Scott Granados wrote: > > What's interesting is that I just tried to

RE: standard network symbols/icons

2003-01-20 Thread Russ White
They are also in the public domain, from the last set of emails I saw on the topic. :-) Russ On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Mark Segal wrote: > > Try.. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/503/2.html They are "cisco" icons.. > But they are mostly the generic kinds as described by David in a follow up > e

Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?

2003-01-20 Thread Stewart, William C (Bill), RTLSL
> > > > Block all TCP 21 and 80 ? > > > Why not just block all incoming SYN ? > > Doesn't this stop kazaa/morpheus/gnutella/FTP/? > Indeed it does break that. P2P clients: Mostly transfer illegal content. [...] > Ftp/HTTP etc I believe most cable providers currently block these anyway :-) > There

Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?

2003-01-20 Thread Jeff Workman
Stoned koalas drooled eucalyptus spit in awe as Avleen Vig exclaimed: Doesn't this stop kazaa/morpheus/gnutella/FTP/? This is a problematic setup, and woudl require the cable modem provider to maintain a quickly changing 'firewall' :( I understand the want to do it, but I'm not sure its practic

Re: clear blue sf with out power

2003-01-20 Thread John Kinsella
>From what Internap has told me, power went out at Navisite (I'm getting tired of name changes) at 10:15 on 1/19 due to PG&E de-energizing the grid that feeds the DC due to a short. No ETA on when the grid will be back. John Scott Granados said: > > Anyone know what's up with Clearblue in SF, 6

Re: [spamtools] Tracking a DDOS

2003-01-20 Thread william
So did you aquire those "assets" from clearblue or where the appliedtheory's assets kindof devided between fastnet and clearblue? And if undertand it correctly apliedtheory name & domain are still with clearblue/navisite? If so is it the same for CRL? I'm primarily just curious in terms of find

TTM use in North America

2003-01-20 Thread Josh Fleishman
I am interested in hearing how/if TTM (Test Traffic Measurements) is currently being used in North American networks. Practical experiences, gotcha's, value proposition, support, etc.. would be of interest. Also, are there any alternative projects that are also worth consideration? Thanks, Jos

OT: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?

2003-01-20 Thread Al Rowland
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clear blue sf with out power

2003-01-20 Thread Scott Granados
Anyone know what's up with Clearblue in SF, 650 Townsend St. I've been getting alerts that they have been with out power now for a couple days and are still on generator power. Thanks Scott

RE: standard network symbols/icons

2003-01-20 Thread Mark Segal
Try.. http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/503/2.html They are "cisco" icons.. But they are mostly the generic kinds as described by David in a follow up email. Mark -- Mark Segal Director, Data Services Futureway Communications Inc. Tel: (905)326-1570 > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL

Re: standard network symbols/icons

2003-01-20 Thread David Charlap
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do any of the standards organizations (ISO?) have a set of icons/symbols to represent network devices ranging from routers to servers to load balancers? I've always used the basic Cisco and Juniper icons, but I'm being directed to find something not associated with a ven

Network Design Consultant

2003-01-20 Thread K. Scott Bethke
Can anyone here recommend an individual or company who would analyze a working network design from head to toe, suggesting changes and improvements where needed. This would include overall design from a high level but also analyze actual router/switch config's. Looking for someone/somecompany wh

Re: standard network symbols/icons

2003-01-20 Thread Scott Granados
Well there are the symbols included with Visio however I'm not sure that is much more than the boxes you mentioned. - Original Message - From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Sent: Monday, January 20, 2003 9:00 AM Subject: standard network symbols/icons > > Hello, > > Do any

standard network symbols/icons

2003-01-20 Thread Michael . Hawk
Hello, Do any of the standards organizations (ISO?) have a set of icons/symbols to represent network devices ranging from routers to servers to load balancers? I've always used the basic Cisco and Juniper icons, but I'm being directed to find something not associated with a vendor in *any* way, b

Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflectiveattacks?

2003-01-20 Thread Avleen Vig
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > > I was refering specifically to end user workstations. For example home > > machines on dial up or broadband connections. > > A lot of broadband providers already prohibit running servers and block > > certain inbound ports (eg 21 and 80). > >

Re: FW: Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflectiveattacks?

2003-01-20 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Avleen Vig wrote: > On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > > > > you could partly get around this by blocking all 'SYN' packets going to > > > your customers :-) > > > > and we are hoping none are hosting webservers or mail servers or > > right? Oh wait! I'

Re: uunet

2003-01-20 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Mon, 20 Jan 2003, Hank Nussbacher wrote: > > At 02:26 PM 19-01-03 -0800, Scott Granados wrote: > > I don't believe Chris sleeps, ever. I do, and I ski :) (and play hockey)... except for hockey I have a cell phone near me... and mostly the other 4 people are available too :) > > -Hank > > >

quick note on hash based tracebacks

2003-01-20 Thread Craig Partridge
The capabilities of hash-based tracebacks has come up a few times in the past couple of days. Most of the discussion has been quite accurate (always nice to see one's work understood!) but there are two points that I thought might benefit from clarification: > The SPIE hash-based > traceback i

Re: uunet

2003-01-20 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Sun, 19 Jan 2003, Scott Granados wrote: > > network either. Same response with the exception of "Well we don't have > security persons available after hours so write us an e-mail and you may get > a response within 48 hours". Which to me sounded just plain wrong because > I've seen threds

Re: uunet

2003-01-20 Thread David Barak
I can verify that. David Barak --Fully RFC 1925 Compliant-- --- Hank Nussbacher <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > At 02:26 PM 19-01-03 -0800, Scott Granados wrote: > > I don't believe Chris sleeps, ever. > > -Hank > > > >Its just unfortunate that some companies not > mentioning names feel th

Re: Is there a line of defense against Distributed Reflective attacks?

2003-01-20 Thread David Howe
at Monday, January 20, 2003 5:25 AM, Deepak Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> was seen to say: >> What incentive does the end-user have to use secure systems? Should >> Microsoft, Sun, Sendmail Inc or ISC be required to send a technician >> out to fix every defective system they released? Why should the