Re: National Do Not Call Registry has opened and Yahoo isn'tblocking it

2003-06-27 Thread chuck goolsbee
Next time there's a project like this that's going to have a big first day spike it'd make sense to do load shedding and divert peak traffic to a server that says "sorry, we're overloaded, please come back tomorrow and don't panic because you have until the end of July to sign up and be on the fir

Re: National Do Not Call Registry has opened and Yahoo isn't blocking it

2003-06-27 Thread John R. Levine
>"The irony of it is that the confirmation e-mail is being blocked by >Yahoo, and therefore you will not receive the confirmation mail," said >Eric Greenberg, chief technology officer of NetFrameworks ... ... who hasn't a clue what he's talking about. I checked with a friend who's a tech manage

Re: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-06-27 Thread Leo Bicknell
While it's possible to make many comments about "how things could have been done better" on this project, I want to take the time to commend you for taking time to ask the question. Many "big company" and/or "big government" projects happen all the time, with no one even asking the community for

RE: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-06-27 Thread Christopher J. Wolff
Richard, Don't take it so hard. The news outlets are portraying the public's response as so massive and unprecedented that you should be able to spin that to your advantage. Remind the naysayers of the hundreds of thousands of people that were able to register. You have worked hard to remove a

RE: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-06-27 Thread William Devine, II
Must've been a doubly hard day huh? william -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Callahan, Richard M, SOLGV Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 6:01 PM To: Stephen Sprunk; LeBlanc, Robert Cc: North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes; [EMAIL PROTECTED] S

RE: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-06-27 Thread Callahan, Richard M, SOLGV
Ladies and Gentlemen, This has been an extremely difficult day for me personally and professionally due to many issues we had. Without going into the painful details, let me assure the community my original post was for exactly for the reason I posted - and we do indeed know how to run a stand

dialup/dsl/cable rbl recommendations

2003-06-27 Thread Charles Sprickman
Hi, I'm in the process of moving our userbase to a new mailserver, but in the meantime limping along on old hardware. In an effort to get some rudimentary spam blocking in place, I've added a number of rbls. So far this has helped, but I'm still seeing a ton of direct-to-mx junk coming in from

Re: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-06-27 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake "LeBlanc, Robert" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > "It's very difficult to make the technology work... Spam blockers are > automated and the software rules are arbitrary," he said. It's a shame the press are putting the blame for this on anti-spam software, as it's clear that the DoNotCall.gov pe

announcing ix-chicago - Chicago area Internet exchange list

2003-06-27 Thread John Kristoff
Let's see how this goes. John

Zebra

2003-06-27 Thread Niaz, Wajahat
Hi all Does anyone know how to install and use zebra? I installed it on Mandrake but its not working. Maybe i am missing some piece of puzzle. Please reply offline thanks -ali

Re: AS-Tree Utility

2003-06-27 Thread Rick Ernst
I've been asked twice off-list; here's the implentation I found: http://www.research.att.com/sw/tools/graphviz/ On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, steve uurtamo wrote: :> :>> I'm curious if anyone could point me to a utility for AS-Tree mapping from a :>> routing table output? I searched the archive a bi

RE: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-06-27 Thread LeBlanc, Robert
This came in from CBS Market Watch: YAHOO BLOCKS FTC DO-NOT-CALL MAIL SAN FRANCISCO (CBS.MW) -- Isn't it ironic. In the war against unsolicited e-mail, automated Spam blockers are actually getting in the way as they block legitimate mail from the government. The federal government on Friday beg

Re: AS-Tree Utility

2003-06-27 Thread Rick Ernst
Wow. First I've heard of this. Repeat... "Wow" :) I took our 3 feeds and munged that data, then started playing with "how is so-n-so connected". Pretty/interesting, and possibly even useful. On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, steve uurtamo wrote: :> :>> I'm curious if anyone could point me to a utilit

Re: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-06-27 Thread Roland Perry
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Nick Nelson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes I was thinking more along the line of a bot submitting every possible 10 digit phone number. Do the nation a favor. Which is, of course, what might happen with email addresses, if someone made the very bad decision to imple

Re: Getting NS host reports

2003-06-27 Thread Charles Sprickman
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, John R. Levine wrote: > Sort of. You can get a password from Verisign to the FTP server where > you can download copies of the COM and NET zone files, and from > publicinterestregistry.net for ORG. Then you download and do a Big > Grep. And then look somewhere else for all

RE: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-06-27 Thread Michael Hallgren
> > Businesses that ask for email addresses know that a significant percentage > of people can't type their own email address correctly. Each of those > results in a bounce, or an undeliverable message sitting in an mqueue > somewhere. It would not surprise me if they also reduced their > Timeout

RE: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-06-27 Thread Nick Nelson
On 27 Jun 2003 at 14:52, Charles Sprickman wrote: > And you can bet that this "project" cost at least six figures, maybe > seven. As a taxpayer, I was quite disappointed to see IIS and Microsoft > SMTPSVC gluing this pile together. When I went in and registered last > night, I was surprised to

RE: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-06-27 Thread Charles Sprickman
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Mike Damm wrote: > To save you all some keystrokes... > Donotcall.gov has no MX records. No reverse DNS on any of their outbound > mail boxes. And they obviously are not processing bounces/complaints/etc. > since nothing on that netblock has port 25 open. And you can bet tha

RE: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-06-27 Thread Gary E. Miller
Yo Sameer! On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Sameer R. Manek wrote: > Dealing with the bounces would be a nightmare, they've already got their > handsful with the webservers and the outbound mail boxes. If you can not run a mail server/mail list properly, then you should not do so. Sounds like donotcall.go

RE: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-06-27 Thread Sameer R. Manek
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Mike Damm > Sent: Friday, June 27, 2003 10:06 AM > To save you all some keystrokes... > Donotcall.gov has no MX records. No reverse DNS on any of their outbound > mail boxes. And they obviously are not pro

Re: AS-Tree Utility

2003-06-27 Thread Lucy E. Lynch
there is a nice v6 tool - http://carmen.ipv6.tilab.com/ipv6/tools/ASpath-tree/ http://net-stats.ipv6.tilab.com/bgp/bgp-page-complete.html maybe it can be tweaked? Lucy E. Lynch Academic User Services Computing CenterUniversity of Oregon llynch @

Re: AS-Tree Utility

2003-06-27 Thread steve uurtamo
> I'm curious if anyone could point me to a utility for AS-Tree mapping from a > routing table output? I searched the archive a bit, and didn't find > anything. you could use dot (directed graphs drawing program -- free) after a little bit of sed on the route table output. about 10 minutes of

AS-Tree Utility

2003-06-27 Thread Malayter, Christopher
Hello All, I'm curious if anyone could point me to a utility for AS-Tree mapping from a routing table output? I searched the archive a bit, and didn't find anything. Thanks ahead! -Chris/AS4181

RE: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-06-27 Thread Michael Hallgren
> > *sigh* So why did Richard Callahan even bother soliciting advice the first > place? They are demonstrating they have no concern in operating a decent > mail system, even after many kind folks here provided them all > the info they > needed. > > I've had two confirmations dropped so far today.

route-views now present at NSPIXPII

2003-06-27 Thread David Meyer
Greetings, route-views (AS6447) is pleased to announce our presence at NSPIXPII (202.249.2.166), courtesy of Akira Kato and WIDE. The route-views project operates BGP route collectors that provide global routing data to both operator and r

Re: Don't call registry off the map?

2003-06-27 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Chris Woodfield writes: > > >Making a telemarketing call to a cellphone is already illegal. I think it's= > under the=20 >same law that forbids junk faxes. It's a different law, but yes, both are illegal. Of course, my home fax machine got a junk fax just two day

Re: Don't call registry off the map?

2003-06-27 Thread Chris Woodfield
Making a telemarketing call to a cellphone is already illegal. I think it's under the same law that forbids junk faxes. -C On Fri, Jun 27, 2003 at 12:53:32PM -0400, Andy Dills wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Andy Dills wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Patrick wrote: > > > > > > > > > > >

Re: Don't call registry off the map?

2003-06-27 Thread Nick Nelson
On 27 Jun 2003 at 13:02, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Patrick wrote: > > > Can anyone reach www.donotcall.gov? Seems to be off the map... > > According to fox News the site is getting over 125 sign ups a second, these are sign ups not hits, I'd imagine the site is a bi

Re: Don't call registry off the map?

2003-06-27 Thread Dominic J. Eidson
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Andy Dills wrote: > I don't currently get soliciting calls on my cell phone. My cell phone is > my only phone. If I sign up for the donotcall list, will that just enable > the exempt organizations to harvest my number to call me? My understanding is that it is completely ill

RE: National Do Not Call Registry has opened

2003-06-27 Thread Mike Damm
*sigh* So why did Richard Callahan even bother soliciting advice the first place? They are demonstrating they have no concern in operating a decent mail system, even after many kind folks here provided them all the info they needed. I've had two confirmations dropped so far today. Bad in-addr an

Re: Don't call registry off the map?

2003-06-27 Thread jlewis
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Patrick wrote: > Can anyone reach www.donotcall.gov? Seems to be off the map... > > I guess this is just the publics way of inviting the DMA(Direct Marketing > Association) to re-evaulate their assertions that the majority of the > populace enjoys receiving telemarketing cal

Re: Don't call registry off the map?

2003-06-27 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: > I got through to the Web site earlier, but I haven't received the > confirmation emails. I'm pretty certain there's no spam filter in the > way, either -- I guess the mail server is even more overloaded than the > Web server... For those west of t

Re: [Don't call registry off the map?]

2003-06-27 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Joshua Sahala wrote: > > i can get to it, but it is quite slow. (on it's way to being > slashdotted perhaps?!?!) wonder if it has anything to to with the > fact that it is running iis5.0 people never learn, no matter how many times they shoot themselves in the foot.

Re: Don't call registry off the map?

2003-06-27 Thread Andy Dills
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Andy Dills wrote: > > On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Patrick wrote: > > > > > > > Can anyone reach www.donotcall.gov? Seems to be off the map... > > Everything's fun and games until somebody posts to Slashdot... But then, the site loads very quickly for me now. I have an important qu

Re: [Don't call registry off the map?]

2003-06-27 Thread Joshua Sahala
i can get to it, but it is quite slow. (on it's way to being slashdotted perhaps?!?!) wonder if it has anything to to with the fact that it is running iis5.0 must be a large rush of people all hurrying to get their names/numbers on another government list... /joshua Patrick <[EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: Don't call registry off the map?

2003-06-27 Thread Larry Rosenman
--On Friday, June 27, 2003 12:43:24 -0400 "Steven M. Bellovin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tim Rand" writes: I was able to earlier today, but the response was VERY slow. Their = server is probably pretty busy I got through to the Web site earlier, but I h

Re: Don't call registry off the map?

2003-06-27 Thread Andy Dills
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, Patrick wrote: > > > Can anyone reach www.donotcall.gov? Seems to be off the map... Everything's fun and games until somebody posts to Slashdot... Andy --- Andy Dills Xecunet, Inc. www.xecu.net 301-682-9972 ---

Re: Don't call registry off the map?

2003-06-27 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, "Tim Rand" writes: > > >I was able to earlier today, but the response was VERY slow. Their = >server is probably pretty busy > I got through to the Web site earlier, but I haven't received the confirmation emails. I'm pretty certain there's no spam filter

Re: Don't call registry off the map?

2003-06-27 Thread Tim Rand
I was able to earlier today, but the response was VERY slow.   Their server is probably pretty busy   Tim Rand    Network Engineer OHSU Information Technology Group

Don't call registry off the map?

2003-06-27 Thread Patrick
Can anyone reach www.donotcall.gov? Seems to be off the map... I guess this is just the publics way of inviting the DMA(Direct Marketing Association) to re-evaulate their assertions that the majority of the populace enjoys receiving telemarketing calls... /\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/\/

Re: ISP Best Practices

2003-06-27 Thread Patrick
On Fri, 27 Jun 2003, A. Arsalan wrote: > Hello, > > Could someone please help me finding out ISP Best practices in terms of design, > routing and security? I would appreciate if you share the pointers (URL) or the > documents. I maintain some links to resources at: http://inet-ops.stealthgeek

ISP Best Practices

2003-06-27 Thread A. Arsalan
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Re: Country of Origin for Malicious Attacks

2003-06-27 Thread sgorman1
damn the Los Alamos people are efficient the paper for anyone intersted - http://arxiv.org/abs/cond-mat/0306002 - Original Message - From: Peter Galbavy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Date: Friday, June 27, 2003 7:22 am Subject: Re: Country of Origin for Malicious Attacks > > Jamie Reid wrote:

Re: Country of Origin for Malicious Attacks

2003-06-27 Thread sgorman1
"I'd be interested in knowing how linking aggregated attack information to country of origin is actually valuable relative to our ability to respond to it." The simulations we have been running are at the AS level, but country level information is useful for running some of the scenarios we a

The Cidr Report

2003-06-27 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Jun 27 21:07:01 2003 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of the Route-Views router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as6447 for a current version of this report. Recent Table Histor

Re: Country of Origin for Malicious Attacks

2003-06-27 Thread Peter Galbavy
Jamie Reid wrote: > I'd be interested in knowing how linking aggregated attack > information to country of > origin is actually valuable relative to our ability to respond to it. It mostly salves the prejudices of those who want to see certain other countries as the enemy. My view, as most of thi