Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-17 Thread Eric Kuhnke
The messy cabling gallery has become a victim of its own success Load on the server (P4/2.0, 512MB) was up to 65, making things nearly unusable. I took it down for fear that the URL would get spread to Slashdot or similar places. It'll be back up in a few days, hopefully. David Lesher

good cabling in real environments [Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things]

2003-12-17 Thread Pekka Savola
On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, John Kinsella wrote: Always liked the work my fellow coworkers at Globix used to do - I don't have any shots of SJC or NYC online (too bad - a few projects I went to alot of trouble on to show the rest how it should be done ;) ), but here's one of our demo panels from

Re: good cabling in real environments [Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things]

2003-12-17 Thread Robert A. Hayden
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Pekka Savola wrote: Now, we've seen a few pics of good cabling as well. However, I'm forced to ask which kind of good cabling is possible in a dynamic environment when you plug in/out, change, etc. the cables. This seems to invariably lead to total chaos :-). You

Re: good cabling in real environments [Re: Request for submissions:messy cabling and other broken things]

2003-12-17 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Pekka Savola wrote: Now, we've seen a few pics of good cabling as well. However, I'm forced to ask which kind of good cabling is possible in a dynamic environment when you plug in/out, change, etc. the cables. This seems to invariably lead to total chaos :-). Just one opinion. If you

Re: good cabling in real environments [Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things]

2003-12-17 Thread Daniel Karrenberg
On 17.12 19:07, Pekka Savola wrote: How do you do good cabling in dynamic, real environments? :-) My own 25 years of experience boil down to: Try to plan for expansion as well as possible when designing, then periodically start over and completely re-build the messy parts.

Re: good cabling in real environments

2003-12-17 Thread Simon Lockhart
How do you do good cabling in dynamic, real environments? :-) I find that no matter what you do, if there's more than one person touching the cabling, then it ends up a mess, unless you're very strict about cabling policy. Everyone has their pet way of running cat5 in a rack, and each one

Broadwing

2003-12-17 Thread Timothy Brown
Anyone have anything positive or negative to say about Broadwing on the transit side? Private e-mail only please; i'll summarize to the list if there's interest. Tim

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-17 Thread Alex Yuriev
http://new.onecall.net/timages/dsxcabling.jpg http://new.onecall.net/timages/cat5patch.jpg Isn't it amazing how clean cabling in nearly empty collos and mmrs looks? Alex

Re: good cabling in real environments [Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things]

2003-12-17 Thread Alex Yuriev
How do you do good cabling in dynamic, real environments? :-) It is not that difficult *if* the money is spent in a short term to make sure that no ugly and silly stuff is crated in a longer(long) term. Strategically pre-running certain parts of the facility with cat5/fiber to minimize the

Re: good cabling in real environments [Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things]

2003-12-17 Thread John Kinsella
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:07:13PM +0200, Pekka Savola wrote: How do you do good cabling in dynamic, real environments? :-) You hide the spiders nest with lots of panduit covers? ;) Honestly, I think it comes down to two things: Planning before implementation - you pre-wire your net gear to

Re: good cabling in real environments [Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things]

2003-12-17 Thread Henry Linneweh
Any good software out there for cable documenting and even routing and for ECO when things are changed? -Henry Alex Yuriev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How do you do good cabling in dynamic, real environments? :-)It is not that difficult *if* the money is spent in a short term to makesure that no

Re: good cabling in real environments [Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things]

2003-12-17 Thread Bruce Pinsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pekka Savola wrote: | On Tue, 16 Dec 2003, John Kinsella wrote: | |Always liked the work my fellow coworkers at Globix used to do - I don't |have any shots of SJC or NYC online (too bad - a few projects I went to |alot of trouble on to show the rest

Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things

2003-12-17 Thread Richard Irving
Oh... Had to take a potshot, didn't we ? FWIW, we are near filled now, and we managed to Keep the Faith... Alex Yuriev wrote: http://new.onecall.net/timages/dsxcabling.jpg http://new.onecall.net/timages/cat5patch.jpg Isn't it amazing how clean cabling in nearly empty collos and mmrs looks?

Re: good cabling in real environments [Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things]

2003-12-17 Thread Randy Bush
the most long-term stable cable dress i see is in cookie-cutter pops, where the provider cranks them out fully pre-wired and all the same. you live in a dynamic environment? unplanned change either makes messes or large amounts of rework. there ain't no magic pill. randy

Re: good cabling in real environments [Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things]

2003-12-17 Thread Bruce Pinsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Henry Linneweh wrote: | Any good software out there for cable documenting and even routing and for | ECO when things are changed? | I've looked at ITRACS (www.itracs.com) and Telsoft's stuff (http://telsoft-solutions.com/cable.html) before. ITT also

Re: good cabling in real environments [Re: Request for submissions: messy cabling and other broken things]

2003-12-17 Thread Bruce Pinsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 John Kinsella wrote: | On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 07:07:13PM +0200, Pekka Savola wrote: | |How do you do good cabling in dynamic, real environments? :-) | | | You hide the spiders nest with lots of panduit covers? ;) | | Honestly, I think it comes down

Security/DDOS contact for Level3 US ?

2003-12-17 Thread Jan Czmok
Can somebody who is responsible on blocking IP's on unknown.level3.net ports contact me off-list ? I have a DDOS attack against one of my customers from a customer of level3. --jan -- Jan Czmok, Network Engineering Support, Global Access Telecomm, Inc. Ph.: +49 69 299896-35 - fax: +49 69

Most up to date packet size distribution info

2003-12-17 Thread Rob Healey
Hi, I was wondering what the best sources for up to date info on current packet size distribution on the Internet might be? i.e. X% of Internet packets are of size Y bytes to Z bytes. I remember seeing this 2+ years ago but that was many disk

Re: Most up to date packet size distribution info

2003-12-17 Thread Jeff Kell
Rob Healey wrote: I was wondering what the best sources for up to date info on current packet size distribution on the Internet might be? Here's a view from our edge: IP packet size distribution (6491M total packets): 1-32 64 96 128 160 192 224 256 288 320 352 384

Re: Most up to date packet size distribution info

2003-12-17 Thread Jared Mauch
On Wed, Dec 17, 2003 at 03:59:28PM -0500, Jeff Kell wrote: Rob Healey wrote: I was wondering what the best sources for up to date info on current packet size distribution on the Internet might be? Here's a view from our edge: IP packet size distribution (6491M total

FW: Internet Priority Services RFI Announcement

2003-12-17 Thread Nolan, David
The National Communications System issued a Request for Information (RFI) concerning Internet Priority Services for National Security and Emergency Preparedness (NS/EP) communications. The RFI announcement appears on the Federal Business Opportunities website at the url:

Re: Most up to date packet size distribution info

2003-12-17 Thread Robert Boyle
At 04:08 PM 12/17/2003, Jared wrote: Close to what we see at one location: Router#sh ip ca flow IP packet size distribution (17137M total packets): 1-32 64 96 128 160 192 224 256 288 320 352 384 416 448 480 .004 .621 .068 .029 .013 .007 .005 .006 .003 .005 .006 .006

Re: Most up to date packet size distribution info

2003-12-17 Thread Randy Bush
IP packet size distribution (17137M total packets): 1-32 64 96 128 160 192 224 256 288 320 352 384 416 448 480 .004 .621 .068 .029 .013 .007 .005 .006 .003 .005 .006 .006 .006 .004 .004 512 544 576 1024 1536 2048 2560 3072 3584 4096 4608 .004 .003 .016 .018

Re: Most up to date packet size distribution info

2003-12-17 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Wed, 17 Dec 2003, Jeff Kell wrote: Rob Healey wrote: I was wondering what the best sources for up to date info on current packet size distribution on the Internet might be? Here's a view from our edge: IP packet size distribution (6491M total packets): 1-32 64