On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Michael Painter wrote:
A coupla' years ago, the FCC defined Broadband as 200Kbps and above.
Hmm different jurisdiction but Tiscali NTL seems to think broadband is as low
as 100Kbps
http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/3xfaster.html?code=ZZ-NL-11MR
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sean Donela
n writes:
In reality, CALEA is a funding bill; it has very little to do with
technology.
There's a lot more to it than that -- there's also access without
involving telco personnel, and possibly the ability to do many more
wiretaps (have you looked
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered:
Any provider of wire or electronic communication service,
landlord, custodian or other person furnishing such facilities
or technical assistance shall be compensated therefor by the
applicant for
whois.arin.net appears to have been down for at least the past hour or
two. Anyone know what happened or an ETR for it?
ARIN seems to block ping/traceroute at their border, but www.arin.net is
still usable. The web frontend to whois at www.arin.net seems
nonfunctional at this time as well.
Reachability to the network seems OK, but the server seems to time out.
marble% whois -h whois.arin.net 220.175.8.27
whois: connect(): Operation timed out
marble%
marble% traceroute whois.arin.net
traceroute to whois.arin.net (192.149.252.43), 64 hops max, 44 byte packets
1 iolite4-fxp2
At 04:32 PM 18-06-04 -0500, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
Thus spake Daniel Golding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
The amount of money the FBI would need to spend to tap a VoIP call is
highest with the first option, intermediate with the second, and lowest
with
the last. Some services companies are really
Just curious. How much would it differ from
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?tag=icannwatch-20path=tg/detail/-/0262134128/qid%3D1041619276/sr%3D1-1
and
http://www.law.miami.edu/~froomkin/articles/icann.pdf
?
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Jonathan Slivko wrote:
Maybe try these guys?
I will admit to only thinking about this for a few days.
However, it seems to me that the Harvard material is rather
narrowly focussed both on a temporal and on a topical level.
I am an admirer of Froomkin's essays, and have published
at least one of them (in the distant past when Matrix News
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
There's a lot more to it than that -- there's also access without
involving telco personnel, and possibly the ability to do many more
wiretaps (have you looked at the capacity requirements lately), but
funding is certainly a large part of it.
It's not just a funding bill. It provided $500MM for carrier network
upgrades and for switch software compliance. That fund has been exhausted
from what I have been told. It also clearly defined technical expectations
that carriers and manufacturers have to live up to.
All that being CALEA
Just curious. How much would it differ from
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/redirect?tag=icannwatch-20path=tg/detail/-/0262134128/qid%3D1041619276/sr%3D1-1
and
http://www.law.miami.edu/~froomkin/articles/icann.pdf
as i said, it can't be written by an ambulance-chaser or nobody will
(read it only today, so sorry if I repeat something).
The technical roots of the problem are: proposed services VIOLATES internet
specification (which is 100% clean - if name do not exist, resolver must
receive negative response). So, technically, there is not any ground for
SiteFinder - vice
Sean, the capacity requirements aren't as straightforward as you
are interpreting them.
If you are a CLEC and you cover a full five state
area in the Northeast, you probably are subject to a county aggregate
of a capacity requirement of 1500. You would then look at your
historicals, refer to
Hi Alexei,
I do not believe there is any technical spec prohibiting this, in fact that DNS
can use a wildcard at any level is what enables the facility. I think this is a
non-technical argument.. altho it was demonstrated that owing to the age and
status of the com/net zones a number of
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Shultz) [Fri 18 Jun 2004, 21:42 CEST]:
Pay for it? If I remember from CALEA, the providers pay for it
(and eventually their customers), and as for broadband Internet
providers... I'm guessing anyone who offers end user customers
a circuit bigger than 53.333k.
Pet
Stephen J. Wilcox [19/06/04 16:38 +0100]:
On Fri, 18 Jun 2004, Michael Painter wrote:
A coupla' years ago, the FCC defined Broadband as 200Kbps and above.
Hmm different jurisdiction but Tiscali NTL seems to think broadband is as
low as 100Kbps
In India, it is anywhere over 64 Kbps,
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
Sean, the capacity requirements aren't as straightforward as you
are interpreting them.
You are absolutely correct, they are not that straightforward. You
should consult a telecommunications attorney with expertise in this area
for legal advice.
-Original Message-
From: Sean Donelan [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Saturday, June 19, 2004 8:39 PM
To: Hannigan, Martin
Cc: North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes
Subject: RE: [Fwd: [IP] Feds: VoIP a potential haven for terrorists]
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Hannigan,
Thus spake Niels Bakker [EMAIL PROTECTED]
* [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Jeff Shultz) [Fri 18 Jun 2004, 21:42 CEST]:
Pay for it? If I remember from CALEA, the providers pay for it
(and eventually their customers), and as for broadband Internet
providers... I'm guessing anyone who offers end user
The battle rages on, apparently. The more things change, the more
things stay the same, it would seem. ;-)
This is from this past Wednesday --I'm surprised that I somehow
overlooked it and only just now saw this.
http://www.cnn.com/2004/TECH/internet/06/16/telecoms.voip.reut/index.html
FYI,
I guess the Akami hoopla caused me to overlook it, but one more thing:
I always did like John McCain. His quote: Since it is a breakthrough
technology, there's going to be a lot of china broken.
Shake, rattle, roll. Same as it ever was.
- ferg
-- Fergie (Paul Ferguson) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Howdy,
Is there any place where people with experience dealing with DDoS attacks
hang out? I'm getting very little assistance from my upstream beyond
call whomever is in charge of each IP attacking and make them stop, and
even though we null route the destination IP being attacked, this traffic
Charles Sprickman wrote:
even though we null route the destination IP being attacked, this traffic
will be billed.
Hmmm.
Maybe if NANOG had irc.nanog.org, maybe that might be something to
consider - a real-time network of communication for network operators
to deal with issues, etc.
-- Jonathan
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004 22:04:36 -0400 (EDT), Charles Sprickman
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Howdy,
Is there
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Cade,Marilyn S - LGCRP wrote:
Jim Dempsey's testimony at Senator Sununu's hearing is very
interesting, and very educational on these issues.
CALEA was not written for the IP world.
When CALEA was being written, the Internet, IP and information services
were all debated.
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Jonathan Slivko wrote:
Maybe if NANOG had irc.nanog.org, maybe that might be something to
consider - a real-time network of communication for network operators
to deal with issues, etc.
There's always http://puck.nether.net/mailman/listinfo/nsp-security
--
srs
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Jonathan Slivko wrote:
Maybe if NANOG had irc.nanog.org, maybe that might be something to
consider - a real-time network of communication for network operators
to deal with issues, etc.
There's always
Is there any place where people with experience dealing with DDoS attacks
hang out? I'm getting very little assistance from my upstream beyond
call whomever is in charge of each IP attacking and make them stop, and
even though we null route the destination IP being attacked, this traffic
The particular hearing that set this all off is the Senate Commerce
Committee's review of S.2281 (VoIP Regulatory Freedom Act) that
took place on last Wednesday, and in general, the hearing has a
higher content to noise ratio than the resulting press coverage.
The agenda and statements of the
Charles Sprickman wrote:
Is there any place where people with experience dealing with DDoS attacks
hang out? I'm getting very little assistance from my upstream beyond
call whomever is in charge of each IP attacking and make them stop, and
even though we null route the destination IP being
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Charles Sprickman wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Jonathan Slivko wrote:
Maybe if NANOG had irc.nanog.org, maybe that might be something to
consider - a real-time network of communication for network operators
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
which of your 2 upstreams isn't helping out? I'm fairly certain both
providers have security groups, and do mitigate attacks for customers on a
regular basis. Perhaps you are not getting in touch with the correct
customer service folks? We
Charles Sprickman wrote:
I don't want to go too much into it, but HE.net, once they supplied me
with the proper channels immediately null-routed the IP, hurrah! I'm
waiting on the answer as to whether we get billed or not for this traffic.
One other way to get a hold of clueful contacts,
I could host and/or setup the irc server if anyone is interested.
On Sun, Jun 20, 2004 at 03:23:06AM +, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Charles Sprickman wrote:
On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, Jonathan Slivko wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, John Curran wrote:
S.2281 takes the middle of the road position in areas such as lawful
intercept, universal service fund, and E911. At a high-level, those
VoIP services which offer PSTN interconnection (and thereby look like
traditional phone service in terms of
At 12:06 AM -0400 6/20/04, Sean Donelan wrote:
On Sat, 19 Jun 2004, John Curran wrote:
S.2281 takes the middle of the road position in areas such as lawful
intercept, universal service fund, and E911. At a high-level, those
VoIP services which offer PSTN interconnection (and thereby look
if the pro-ported bad guys are so swift why would they
use anything packaged anyway?
They have engineers and scientific minds in their
ranks that understand devices, boards and the likes
and could simply create their own data centers and
simply use new protocols to communicate over the
public
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