Re: Teaching/developing troubleshooting skills

2004-06-26 Thread Edward B. Dreger
DG Date: Fri, 25 Jun 2004 20:04:38 -0700 DG From: Darrell Greenwood [ editted for brevity ] DG The 5 day course can be boiled down really to one concept DG that can be taught in 5 minutes... binary search. Every half-decent programmer knows O(log(N)) is one's friend unless the scalar

RE: Attn MCI/UUNet - Massive abuse from your network

2004-06-26 Thread Steve Linford
At 9:43 am -0700 (GMT) 25/6/04, Ben Browning wrote: At 04:00 PM 6/24/2004, Hannigan, Martin wrote: [ Operations content: ] Do you know of any ISP's null routing AS701? ISPs? Not of the top of my head. I know several businesses who have, and a great many people who have blocked UUNet space from

Persistent DNS Zone Transfer Attempts from IP 128.232.0.31

2004-06-26 Thread Jon R. Kibler
Greetings, Anyone know anything about IP 128.232.0.31? # host 128.232.0.31 31.0.232.128.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer dns-probe.srg.cl.cam.ac.uk. We have been getting persistent zone transfer attempts that originate from this IP address. We have had repeated zone transfer attempts

Re: Attn MCI/UUNet - Massive abuse from your network

2004-06-26 Thread Jon R. Kibler
Steve Linford wrote: I seldom post here because the couple of times I have followed-up to correct wrong statements in nanog regarding Spamhaus, such as the above, I have each time been told by nanog's admin that I will be removed from the nanog list if I respond to any question in nanog

Re: Persistent DNS Zone Transfer Attempts from IP 128.232.0.31

2004-06-26 Thread Richard Cox
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 11:19:16 -0400 Jon R. Kibler [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Anyone know anything about IP 128.232.0.31? | # host 128.232.0.31 | 31.0.232.128.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer dns-probe.srg.cl.cam.ac.uk. | | We have been getting persistent zone transfer attempts that originate |

Re: Persistent DNS Zone Transfer Attempts from IP 128.232.0.31

2004-06-26 Thread Jon Lewis
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Jon R. Kibler wrote: Greetings, Anyone know anything about IP 128.232.0.31? # host 128.232.0.31 31.0.232.128.in-addr.arpa domain name pointer dns-probe.srg.cl.cam.ac.uk. We have been getting persistent zone transfer attempts that originate from this IP address.

Re: Attn MCI/UUNet - Massive abuse from your network

2004-06-26 Thread Tom (UnitedLayer)
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Jon R. Kibler wrote: I seldom post here because the couple of times I have followed-up to correct wrong statements in nanog regarding Spamhaus, such as the above, I have each time been told by nanog's admin that I will be removed from the nanog list if I respond to

Re: Attn MCI/UUNet - Massive abuse from your network

2004-06-26 Thread Richard Welty
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004 10:50:12 -0700 (PDT) Tom (UnitedLayer) [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The big deal is that spam complaining/etc is not operational content, and there are several other lists to handle that sort of thing. but then, individuals get 1 free shot at saying things that are in some

The use of .0/.255 addresses.

2004-06-26 Thread Jonathan McDowell
Have just spent some time trying to track down what seemed to be an elusive problem, I thought I'd mention it here. I've had problems accessing www.level3.net, www.ebay.co.uk and www.dabs.com (and a few others I don't recall). As I'm the first user of a reasonably new netblock I thought it might

RE: The use of .0/.255 addresses.

2004-06-26 Thread Chris Ranch
Title: RE: The use of .0/.255 addresses. I see traffic from this last IP address octet all the time from prefixes of length less than /24. Use of these host id's when the prefix length is greater than or equal to /24 is illegal. So if that's your case, I'd suggest not doing it. If that's not

Re: The use of .0/.255 addresses.

2004-06-26 Thread Peter Corlett
Jonathan McDowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [...] Various people I've asked about this have said they wouldn't use the .0 or .255 addresses themselves, though couldn't present any concrete info about why not; my experience above would seem to suggest a reason not to use them. It's funny that

Re: The use of .0/.255 addresses.

2004-06-26 Thread Tony Li
Various people I've asked about this have said they wouldn't use the .0 or .255 addresses themselves, though couldn't present any concrete info about why not; my experience above would seem to suggest a reason not to use them. The .255 address is very likely to be a broadcast address from a

Re: The use of .0/.255 addresses.

2004-06-26 Thread Jon Lewis
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Tony Li wrote: The .255 address is very likely to be a broadcast address from a netblock of /24 or longer. I would suspect that folks are wary of accepting packets from a broadcast address as that could easily be a smurf. The .0 address was used as a broadcast address

Re: The use of .0/.255 addresses.

2004-06-26 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Sun, Jun 27, 2004 at 12:32:40AM +0100, Jonathan McDowell wrote: Have just spent some time trying to track down what seemed to be an elusive problem, I thought I'd mention it here. I've had problems accessing www.level3.net, www.ebay.co.uk and www.dabs.com (and a few others I don't

Re: The use of .0/.255 addresses.

2004-06-26 Thread Howard C. Berkowitz
At 10:03 PM -0400 6/26/04, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: This is what happens when your educational system continues to teach classful routing as anything other than a HISTORICAL FOOTNOTE *coughCiscocough*. This is also how you end up with 76k /24s in the global routing table. Do you part to help

Re: The use of .0/.255 addresses.

2004-06-26 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Sat, 26 Jun 2004, Jared Mauch wrote: This includes Washington state host software vendors that may need to distribute patches for networking stacks with defects in their handling of outbound TCP connections (referenced in an alternate email..) Then of course we could use their

Re: The use of .0/.255 addresses.

2004-06-26 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
Amen, brother. - ferg -- Richard A Steenbergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Do you part to help control the ignorant population: whenever you hear someone say class [ABC] in reference to anything other than a historical allocation, smack them. Hard. -- Fergie, a.k.a. Paul Ferguson

Re: The use of .0/.255 addresses.

2004-06-26 Thread Wayne E. Bouchard
I can tell you that at least with my customers, the term class C is only used to clarify what is meant by slash 24 and always with the phrase is the equivilant to And a bit surprisingly, I'm having to explain this less and less. Even the sales team is learning to speak CIDR. So there is indeed

Re: The use of .0/.255 addresses.

2004-06-26 Thread Paul G
- Original Message - From: Wayne E. Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Fergie (Paul Ferguson) [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Saturday, June 26, 2004 11:01 PM Subject: Re: The use of .0/.255 addresses. I can tell you that at least with my customers, the term class C is