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On 2004-08-24, at 12.58, Bruce Campbell wrote:
On Mon, 23 Aug 2004, Tony Li wrote:
Did they arrest the crew? They have grounds on negligence
charges...
The crew of the ship for having dropped anchor presumably in defiance
of
'Undersea
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[EMAIL PROTECTED], Brian
Battle [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Akamai or not, microsoft is overwhelmed by the demand for SP2, and today is
giving the message listed below on windowsupdate:
Download and install it now - Currently not available
We are currently experiencing a high level of
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On 2004-08-29, at 15.58, Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
If you find the prices staggering, it's likely that you and your
organization don't need this product. Arguments about price gouging
on memory, GBICs, power cords, and other commodity items
quote who=Roland Perry
I have a solution, but it's expensive. A url for the whole 266MB
download (and not the smaller selective download that Windows Update
would provide). If anyone's that desperate, email me. I only used it
after waiting a week with the Automatic Updates switched on, and
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], David A.
Ulevitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Microsoft isn't hiding the link:
http://download.microsoft.com/download/1/6/5/165b076b-aaa9-443d-84f0-73cf11fdcdf8/WindowsXP-KB835935-SP2-ENU.exe
linked from:
Michel Py wrote:
2) Make audio CD's unreadable in a computer so nobody can rip the .wav
tracks to .mp3. Totally stupid:
2.a) Remember the last ones that tried (namely Sony)? Their protection
scheme could be defeated in 2 seconds with a sharpie. I'm still
laughing at it. Hara-kiri comes to mind.
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, David A. Ulevitch wrote:
would provide). If anyone's that desperate, email me. I only used it
after waiting a week with the Automatic Updates switched on, and
nothing arriving.
Microsoft isn't hiding the link:
The CD's are supposed to hit Comp USA and Best BUy within the next month
or two for SP2.
The download link in this email should work fine for you even though it
is the large network install if you really need it and have broadband go
for it.
On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 03:59, Sean Donelan wrote:
On
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sean
Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
You can order a Free CD on the Microsoft web site. Although it says 4-6
weeks, people report they are getting a CD in the mail in about a week.
Is distribution from all their worldwide offices, or will users outside
the USA
They will have to wait for international delivery.
On Wed, 2004-09-01 at 04:18, Roland Perry wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sean
Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
You can order a Free CD on the Microsoft web site. Although it says 4-6
weeks, people report they are getting a CD in the
Not that I'm trying to put words in your mouth, but I believe you meant
suprnova.org which is a BitTorrent site (supernova.org is not a
bittorrent site).
Check out this link for a list of other BitTorrent sites and
applications:
http://kevinrose.typepad.com/kr/2004/07/darktip_the_bes.html
Roland Perry wrote:
I'm an IT professional, but only one of my PCs is running XP.
And it's a full-price retail copy, not a bundled-OEM or upgrade.
Hence me feeling left out when I'm told that IT professionals
have already been allowed their Windows-update.
Every IT professional I know has
Peter Galbavy wrote:
My personal reasons for any downloading of audio, specifically,
in it's unavailability through retail channels. I keep picking
up references to older stuff that has been dumped by the pop-bods
many years ago and cannot be bought for love nor money. I may be
breaking
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ca.us, Michel Py [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
Every IT professional I know has had SP2 available three different ways
for two weeks:
1) Somewhere on a server for support staff to begin to experiment with
and for a small set of guinea pig users to install.
2) On a CD
Already got mine and it went nice and smooth as far as I can tell.
Kudos to MS.
Has anyone noticed a real impact on the internet, traffic wise, related
to XP2? I'd suspect that some of the tier1's may see the traffic? Maybe
not?
-M
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I would be surprised if it wasn't on akamai, which would cut down on
much of the external traffic.
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004 12:01:24 -0400 , Hannigan, Martin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Already got mine and it went nice and smooth as far as I can tell.
Kudos to MS.
Has anyone noticed a real
That URL does resolve to Akamai, but I had heard a rumor
they weren't going that route.
-M
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Steven Susbauer
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 12:24 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: XP SP2 other
I hadn't heard they were keeping it off akamai. I have heard they're
asking ISP's not to mirror it (and any other mirrors), and have shut
down bittorrent downloads. That's understandable as they would be
blamed if someone downloaded a compromised version (strange how they
didn't mind Sp1
Title: Re: XP SP2 other than windows update
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] on behalf of Steven
SusbauerSent: Wed 9/1/2004 9:49 AMTo:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]Subject: Re: XP SP2 other than windows
update
I hadn't heard they were keeping it off akamai. I have heard
they'reasking ISP's not to mirror
I'm sure there is research out there, but I can't find it, so does
anyone know of any research showing how good/bad using DNS anycast is as
a kludgey traffic optimiser?
(i.e. having multiple datacenters, all anycasting the authoritative name
server for a domain, but each datacenters' DNS server
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED], Steven Susbauer
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes
That's understandable as they would be blamed if someone downloaded a
compromised version (strange how they didn't mind Sp1 mirroring...).
I would have thought that they would have checksummed the file to a
known value, so
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
I'm sure there is research out there...
Why? :-)
...how good/bad using DNS anycast is as a kludgey traffic optimiser?
I'd hardly call it a kludge. It's been standard best-practice for over a
decade.
THe question is, what is that
Not really the right forum for this, but the kindo f thing nanog'ers know:
Is there a way to make Linux ignore TCP sequence numbers?
My goal is to be able to have a test network with servers that a point
real traffic at, mirrored off the live network.
Of course, only the live servers will be
Bill Woodcock wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
I'm sure there is research out there...
Why? :-)
Usual - if I build it myself, will it work well enough, or should I pony
up for a CDN?
...how good/bad using DNS anycast is as a kludgey traffic optimiser?
I'd hardly
I need to get in touch with RP at hotmail, tried [EMAIL PROTECTED], which is
only for consumers of hotmail, as it needs to reference a hotmail account. I
tried [EMAIL PROTECTED], but have received no response. Is there a more
appropriate known address? This has to do with blocking mail at the
Steve Francis wrote:
Not really the right forum for this, but the kindo f thing nanog'ers
know:
Is there a way to make Linux ignore TCP sequence numbers?
You want to RTFS tcp_data_queue in tcp_input.c. However, even if you get
what you ask for you don't get what you wish to accomplish.
Pete
(Caution: Chris is a chemical engineer, not an anycast engineer)
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
Bill Woodcock wrote:
...how good/bad using DNS anycast is as a kludgey traffic optimiser?
I'd hardly call it a kludge. It's been standard best-practice for over a
decade.
If
On Wed, 01 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
I'm sure there is research out there, but I can't find it, so does
anyone know of any research showing how good/bad using DNS anycast is as
a kludgey traffic optimiser?
(i.e. having multiple datacenters, all anycasting the authoritative name
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
If I read your original request correctly you were planning on:
1) having presence in multiple datacenters (assume multiple providers as
well)
2) having a 'authoritative' DNS server in each facility (or 2/3/4
whatever per center)
3) return datacenter-1-host-1 from
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
If I read your original request correctly you were planning on:
1) having presence in multiple datacenters (assume multiple providers as
well)
2) having a 'authoritative' DNS server in each facility (or 2/3/4
whatever
This isn't really 'anycast' so much as 'different A records depending on
server which was asked'
right.
Well, there'd be one NS record returned for the zone in question. That
NS record would be an IP address that is anycasted from all the
datacenters. So end users (or their DNS
Tomorrow (Sept. 2) it will be 35 years since IMP #1
was plugged in at Len Kleinrock's lab at UCLA.
Happy Birthday!
Peter
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 08:00:53PM +, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
If I read your original request correctly you were planning on:
1) having presence in multiple datacenters (assume multiple providers as
--On onsdag 1 september 2004 10.31 +0200 Kurt Erik Lindqvist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
didn't we have this discussion when the T640 came out. How many have
one?
Nordunet has one. Nice box.
--
Måns Nilsson Systems Specialist
+46 70 681 7204 KTHNOC
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, James wrote:
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 08:00:53PM +, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
Hmm, why not anycast the service/application ips? Having inconsistent DNS
info seems like a
I'm having some issues getting mail out to Verizon accounts from
windermere.com. Could a verizon postmaster please contact me?
Thanks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
206-315-4357
--
Joe Hamelin
Edmonds, WA, US
On 2 Sep 2004, at 06:05, Bill Woodcock wrote:
If you want nearest server, anycast will give you that
essentially 100% of the time.
Just to clarify this slightly, since I've known people to misinterpret
this point: a clear, contextual understanding of the word nearest is
important in
On Wed, Sep 01, 2004 at 11:06:16AM -0700, Steve Francis wrote:
I'm sure there is research out there, but I can't find it, so does
anyone know of any research showing how good/bad using DNS anycast is as
a kludgey traffic optimiser?
http://www.caida.org/outreach/papers/2002/Distance/
this
Paul Vixie wrote:
not only is it bad dns, it's bad web service. the fact that a current
routing table gives a client's query to a particular anycasted DNS server
does not mean that the web services mirror co-located with that DNS server
is the one that would give you the best performance. for
I wonder if that was the same IMP that was gathering dust in a corner of the
student/staff lounge in Boelter Hall at UCLA? I used to see it when I would
pass by there on my way to the library 20 years ago...
Joe
On 9/1/04 1:40 PM, Peter H Salus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Tomorrow (Sept.
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
Paul Vixie wrote:
not only is it bad dns, it's bad web service. the fact that a current
routing table gives a client's query to a particular anycasted DNS server
does not mean that the web services mirror co-located with that DNS server
is the one
On Sep 1, 2004, at 2:17 PM, Steve Francis wrote:
...how good/bad using DNS anycast is as a kludgey traffic
optimiser?
I'd hardly call it a kludge. It's been standard best-practice for
over a
decade.
I thought it was standard best practice for availability, like for
root name servers. I
Thanks to all the off-list responses. Really insightful.
Short summary :
1. IP back to the US is between $300 and $700 (AU) per
month per Mbps.
2. Difficult to peer directly with the 4 big ISPs. Easier
(relatively speaking) to find multilaretal peering with
the 600-odd smaller ISPs.
3.
### On Wed, 01 Sep 2004 14:47:26 -0700, joe mcguckin [EMAIL PROTECTED] casually
### decided to expound upon Peter H Salus [EMAIL PROTECTED], NANOG
### [EMAIL PROTECTED] the following thoughts about Re: IMP #1:
jm I wonder if that was the same IMP that was gathering dust in a corner of the
jm
Jake,
The diagram was attributed to Vint Cerf by Alex
McKenzie, who allowed me to copy it for
Casting the Net (1995). It's on p. 55.
Peter
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
I'm sure there is research out there...
Why? :-)
Usual - if I build it myself, will it work well enough, or should I pony
up for a CDN?
Uh, what about that makes you sure that there's research out there?
I thought it was
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, James wrote:
Hmm, why not anycast the service/application ips? Having
inconsistent DNS info seems like a problem waiting to bite your
behind.
Which begs the question.. is anyone doing this right now?
Yes, lots of people. Akamai is the largest
On 1-sep-04, at 22:40, Peter H Salus wrote:
Tomorrow (Sept. 2) it will be 35 years since IMP #1
was plugged in at Len Kleinrock's lab at UCLA.
Happy Birthday!
Well, one IMP does not a network make... When did they connect the
second one?
Bill Woodcock wrote:
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
I'm sure there is research out there...
Why? :-)
Usual - if I build it myself, will it work well enough, or should I pony
up for a CDN?
Uh, what about that makes you sure that there's research out there?
Oops,
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
From: Iljitsch van Beijnum [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: IMP #1
Date: Thu, 2 Sep 2004 01:19:36 +0200
To: Peter H Salus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 1-sep-04, at 22:40, Peter H Salus wrote:
Tomorrow (Sept. 2) it will be 35 years since IMP #1
was plugged in at Len
So there is no need to anycast the DNS servers and rely on BGP topology for
selection.
Instead use bind's behaviour so that each resolving nameserver will be
querying the authoritative nameserver that responds the fastest.
However, note that only BIND does this. djbdns always selects
Here's the answer, and a photo of the IMP.
http://www.lk.cs.ucla.edu/LK/Inet/birth.html
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Iljitsch van Beijnum
Sent: Wednesday, September 01, 2004 6:20 PM
To: Peter H Salus
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re:
If anybody is currently using a Cyclades KVM/Net please contact me off
list.
Thanks.
Sorry, Karl.
IMP #2 went into Englebart at SRI; IMP #3 to UC-Santa Barbara;
IMP #4 to University of Utah. That was it in 1969: a four-note
ARPAnet.
Peter
folks,
looking to continue the week whichhas
beengoing strong so far with no mention of gmail, verisign and bad
analogies, i have these questions i'm hoping someone can chime in
on:
* any good/bad experiences with force10 gear in
general?
* thoughts on usage in a relatively simple
Steven Susbauer wrote:
I hadn't heard they were keeping it off akamai.
Me neither. Although I had it for a while I downloaded it from the
Microsoft web site again twice today (did not bother to look where it
resolved), from home and office, and it came each time in less than 15
minutes for the
On Wed, 1 Sep 2004, Steve Francis wrote:
I thought it was standard best practice for availability, like for
root name servers. I thought it was not a good closest server
selection mechanism, as you'll be going to the closest server as
determined by BGP - which may have little relationship to
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