Juniper makes a cute little box which was code-named Pepsi Lite. Don't know
the productized name for it, but, should be easy to find. Should handle
what you're looking for just fine. Also a used M5 on Ebay would do the
trick.
Owen
--On Thursday, December 2, 2004 2:50 AM -0500 Joshua Brady
On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 01:12 -0500, Alex Rubenstein wrote:
I'm sure if you peruse the archives, you'll see that I post about this
about every year. The answer to your question is 'No, I haven't found what
I am looking for yet.'
However, the quest I am on is slightly different.
I am
On Wed, 2004-12-01 at 21:30 +0100, JP Velders wrote:
[ ... ]
I think the risk of ISPs handing out /64s is very small. Actually I expect
most of the consumer ISPs (and they are the ones with the large number
of customers) to hand out /128s.
Uhm, one of my private (as in I'm the
I am looking for a device that meets the following criteria.
a) Reasonably small. This probably wouldn't be rack mounted; it'd be
wall
mounted, desk mounted, celing mounted, etc.
b) Powered by PoE.
c) Is SNMPable over Ethernet. NOT RS232 or serial, or anything archaic
like that. Not
Sorry Alex, but I think you are barking up
the wrong tree.
When you add Ethernet as a requirement
then you are asking for an I/O interface
that is more complex
Ethernet is cheap and trivial, drop some
code in one of these (cpu is built into the
rj45 socket)
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Jeff Shultz wrote:
They are running ADSL2+? Any idea what DSLAM/modems they are using? I'm
afraid that my Swedish is insufficient (iow non-existant) for working
my way through their website, if the answer is even there.
I have this information but I am not sure I am at
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wednesday, December 01, 2004 9:06 PM
To: Suresh Ramasubramanian
Cc: nanog list
Subject: Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam
screensaver site?
I dont know how many
7206VXR with appropriate PAM's
Scott C. McGrath
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Joshua Brady wrote:
My apologies if some may find this a little off-topic.
However, here is my issue. I need a router, which can take 2 4xT1's
and a DS-3, while handing a Gbit for internal
I was at a trade show yesterday and they had some interesting boxes for
remote control. They don't meet your spec but someone might be interested.
This box has serial and digital control connections but works via GPRS
rather than Ethernet. Makes an interesting back door that could be
Steven Champeon wrote:
on Wed, Dec 01, 2004 at 03:34:43PM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Wed, 01 Dec 2004 15:02:19 EST, Steven Champeon said:
Connect:dhcp.vt.edu ERROR:5.7.1:550 go away, dynamic user
Given the number of options available at our end, I can hardly blame
other sites for
I am looking for a device that meets the following criteria.
I'd add:
g) Inexpensive, so it can be widely deployed.
A Basic Stamp might be the platform for such; but I've
retired from hardware hacking projects. I'd suggest queries to
sci.electronics.design in hopes of finding someome
The site has already been hacked/defaced, per full-disclosure. I can't
personally verify or refute this because I can't reach it.
---Rsk
Quick example, though: of 6936 patterns currently in my list, if you
just run a cut on \\ (which catches either '.' or '-' as the
next char,
for the most part) you get (matches of 20 or more):
count first left-hand pattern part
-
1572 ^[0-9]+
206 ^.+
Captain's Log, stardate Thu, 2 Dec 2004 09:25:15 -0500, from the fingers of
Rich Kulawiec came the words:
The site has already been hacked/defaced, per full-disclosure. I
can't personally verify or refute this because I can't reach it.
---Rsk
I'm insulted! I clicked on the map of Ireland
Is :
- RADb the database where AS numbers are cross referenced to IP address
prefixes
- RIPE is an idependent project to map out the relationship of AS's and how
their locations (relative to one and other)
???
Tony
_
Express
g) Inexpensive, so it can be widely deployed.
That's why I suggested talking to a college
sophomore. This is the kind of thing that
electronics engineering students do for
a 3rd year project.
A Basic Stamp might be the platform for such;
I don't think that a Stamp or PICAXE will work.
These
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Joshua Brady wrote:
| My apologies if some may find this a little off-topic.
|
| However, here is my issue. I need a router, which can take 2 4xT1's
| and a DS-3, while handing a Gbit for internal use. Now to complicate
| the entire situation, this
I don't know if they're here yet, but, PICs with builitin Ethernet are
definitely on the way. I'm not that much of a hardware geek, but, some
of the hardware geeks I know have bee talking about these for a while
in terms that make me think they're expecting samples any day.
Owen
--On Thursday,
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 16:03:55 +0100, Andre Oppermann said:
Reverse zone file for 10.0.0.0/24:
1.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR mail.example.com.
_send._smtp._srv.1.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. IN TXT 1
ftp://ftp.rfc-editor.org/in-notes/internet-drafts/draft-stumpf-dns-mtamark-03.txt
I think Lycos did not think this through enough. Their response is
HUGE. They've essentially launched a Denial of Service on themselves.
They would not have needed the larger backbone if they cut down on
the size of their response. They could have done anything with their
client, but they
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Wed, 1 Dec 2004, Jeff Shultz wrote:
They are running ADSL2+? Any idea what DSLAM/modems they are using? I'm
afraid that my Swedish is insufficient (iow non-existant) for working
my way through their website, if the answer is even there.
I have this information
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 16:03:55 +0100, Andre Oppermann said:
Reverse zone file for 10.0.0.0/24:
1.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. IN PTR mail.example.com.
_send._smtp._srv.1.0.0.10.in-addr.arpa. IN TXT 1
I second the recommendation for PowerDNS. I built an anycasted, sql
backended instant-update DNS server platform for a registrar who was
interested in selling a premium dns service product. We looked long
and hard at bind+dlz as well as PDNS.
Both are great products, and the developer who
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, just me wrote:
I second the recommendation for PowerDNS.
Dear Nanog,
My apologies for not reading down the thread and seeing that the OP
was looking for a way to *stop* using powerdns.
My apologies also for failing once again to sign my post with my full,
legal name,
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
When you add Ethernet as a requirement then you are asking for an
I/O interface that is more complex and more expensive than the basic
temp/hum recorder on the PIC.
Or not.
http://www.lantronix.com/device-networking/embedded-device-servers/xport.html
(no, it
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
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From: Florian Weimer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 2:01 PM
To: Brett
Cc: Hannigan, Martin; nanog list
Subject: Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam
scr
Susan,
Since you yourself have neglected and ignored my requests via email,
and phone; I am now asking if the list has contact information on
Susan Harris' supervisor at MERIT. Chances are, I will be censored for
this and banned almost immediatly, so off-list replies are greatly
helpful. Or
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:56:29PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
Possibly. What will happen if the Lycos botnet gets hijacked?
The conversations between the clients and the servers don't appear
to be keyed. If a million clients got owned, it would be the
equivalent of an electronic
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Petri Helenius wrote:
Are there other options that qualify to the above criteria than Ericsson
EDA, Packetfront IPD and Corecess IAS?
Paradyne, Siemens, Nokia, Lucent. Basically every vendor has an ethernet
only option nowadays. Some are quick fixes to existing platforms,
The point behind the initiative is not to attack the email senders,
but the source of money. If the spam websites are never up, then the
recipients cannot buy products advertised. Without the sales, there
are not finances to support the spamming. If spammers can't make
money sending email,
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Steven Champeon wrote:
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:56:29PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
Possibly. What will happen if the Lycos botnet gets hijacked?
The conversations between the clients and the servers don't appear
to be keyed. If a million clients got owned, it
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:55:02PM -0800, Chad Skidmore wrote:
quoting me:
What's the difference? Why is everyone so upset about Lycos and
nobody seems to be doing much of anything about the /existing
botnets/, which conservative estimates[1] already put at anywhere
from 1-3K per botnet to
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 08:58:03PM +, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Steven Champeon wrote:
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 02:56:29PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
Possibly. What will happen if the Lycos botnet gets hijacked?
The conversations between the clients
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:09 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam
scr eensaver site?
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 12:55:02PM -0800, Chad
: Susan Harris' supervisor at MERIT. Chances are, I
: will be censored for this and banned almost
This whole censorship thing has me wondering as to the
continued viability of this list as a place where the
clue-heavy hang out and speak freely. Paul Vixie has
been warned, randy Bush has been
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Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:14 PM
To: nanog list
Subject: Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam
scr eensaver site?
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 08:58:03PM +, Christopher L.
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 04:15:34PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
quoting me:
My point was to Martin's question about what would happen if - god
forbid - there were large botnets under the control of spammers; a
careful reading will suggest that my major point was, duh, that there
already
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 04:18:52PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
Can you direct me toward a singluar entity of 1MM bots controlled by
a single master?
No, I cannot. I *can*, and have, forward on reports by those more in
the know than I that estimate 100K new bots / day are being added, and
I
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Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:28 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam
scr eensaver site?
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 04:15:34PM -0500, Hannigan,
On Thu, 02 Dec 2004 16:18:52 EST, Hannigan, Martin said:
Can you direct me toward a singluar entity of 1MM bots controlled by
a single master?
Well, it was a while ago that some Polish guys were openly advertising
their 465K zombie network - I'd be most surprised if it isn't over 1M by
now.
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, nanog gonan wrote:
This whole censorship thing has me wondering as to the
continued viability of this list as a place where the
Perhaps if the core purpose of the list could be maintained without having
dozens of off-topic/useless/banteresque messages per day the list
on Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 04:46:00PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
quoting me:
Um, not 1 million bots - in concert.
And you know this how, exactly? I'm sure not convinced.
http://w3.cambridge-news.co.uk/business/story.asp?StoryID=65877
Lycos Europe's 20 million users will all be
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On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 04:18:52PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
Can you direct me toward a singluar entity of 1MM bots controlled by
a single master?
Nobody can, except the single master who's in control of same, and
whoever that is -- if there is -- is unlikely to voluntarily share
that
Well, it was a while ago that some Polish guys were openly advertising
their 465K zombie network - I'd be most surprised if it isn't over 1M by
now. And remember that hierarchical design is understood in the black
hat world too. If somebody has 1M bots, it won't be 1M bots in one network,
it
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Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 5:21 PM
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Subject: RE: How many backbones here are filtering the makelovenotspam
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[SNIP]
As for go180.net, you don't show up much
Rich Kulawiec wrote:
On Thu, Dec 02, 2004 at 04:18:52PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote:
Can you direct me toward a singluar entity of 1MM bots controlled by
a single master?
Nobody can, except the single master who's in control of same, and
whoever that is -- if there is -- is unlikely to
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
You would put in a global wildcard that says no smtp sender here. Only
for those boxes being legitimate SMTP to outside senders you'd put in a
more specific record as shown above. You probably have to enter some dozen
to one hundred servers this way.
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From: Gadi Evron [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 3:21 PM
To: Chad Skidmore
Cc: Aaron Glenn; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: What good is a noc team? How do you mitigate this?
[was: How
Lycos has created a large botnet (at least by most people's
definition) that is hidden in the guise of a screen saver claiming to
only go after the bad guys.
This is what scares me. Who determines the bad guys? I don't know anyone
over at Lycos so I have no trust (or lack there of) in Lycos.
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Justin Ryburn wrote:
This is what scares me. Who determines the bad guys? I don't know anyone
over at Lycos so I have no trust (or lack there of) in Lycos. Who is to say
that Lycos won't decide next month that Yahoo, Google, MSN, _insert your own
network here_ are bad guys
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Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 4:18 PM
To: Chad Skidmore; [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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makelovenotspam scr eensaver
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (nanog gonan) writes:
This whole censorship thing has me wondering as to the continued
viability of this list as a place where the clue-heavy hang out and speak
freely. Paul Vixie has been warned, randy Bush has been banned. Who
else has been banned that'd be considered a
I'm under the impression that a discussion of that sort will occur in Los
Vegas. There has been significant off-list chatter regarding this.
Its entirely possible for nanog-l to be self policing, or, failing that, for
users to simply use procmail on those who wander off-topic (for some
On Thu, 2004-12-02 at 16:03, Mark Andrews wrote:
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
You would put in a global wildcard that says no smtp sender here. Only
for those boxes being legitimate SMTP to outside senders you'd put in a
more specific record as shown above. You probably have to
From: Daniel Golding [EMAIL PROTECTED]
...
Its entirely possible for nanog-l to be self policing, or, failing
that, for users to simply use procmail on those who wander off-topic
(for some definition of off-topic). Putting an [OT] subject banner on
such posts is also nice.
i don't want
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Daniel Golding wrote:
...after we all sit down with the Merit staff and let our feelings
be known.
Uh, didn't you guys do that at the last NANOG? Is someone under the
misimpression that there's anyone at Merit who doesn't know your feelings?
I wanted to say the same thing earlier, but a hands-off approach works
best on NANOG.
The question at hand is not whether procmail will work . . .
It's whether procmail should have to work.
Joe Johnson
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf
On Thu, 2 Dec 2004, Joe Johnson wrote:
I wanted to say the same thing earlier, but a hands-off approach works
best on NANOG.
The question at hand is not whether procmail will work . . .
It's whether procmail should have to work.
I don't want to use procmail for nanog posts, I've long
I am going out on a limb here, and leaving lurk mode on this issue. If I
get banned, well, Randy and I can start our own mailing list. We're as
about as grumpy as each other.
I disagree with William entirely. Suspensions are idiotic, and only
detract from the usefulness of the list. S:N is
Considering the talk of banning going on, I was reluctant to post this,
anyhow, I wondered how many (if any) have ever thought about the aspect of
vendors deciding to implement some form of default bogon filtering on their
products. With all of the talk about DoS botnets, and issues surrounding
We've proposed what vendors need to better support bogon filtering, even
wrote a draft:
http://arneill-py.sacramento.ca.us/draft-py-idr-redisfilter-01.txt
but last time I talked to cisco ios person (which was just two weeks ago
at IPv6 Summit), it still has not been done. Perhaps couple more
On Fri, 3 Dec 2004, J. Oquendo wrote:
Considering the talk of banning going on, I was reluctant to post this,
anyhow, I wondered how many (if any) have ever thought about the aspect of
vendors deciding to implement some form of default bogon filtering on their
products. With all of the
Alex Rubenstein wrote:
We're not in school, we don't need suspensions. We need to act like
adults, use this list for it's intended purpose. If someone is a dodo
for a message or two here or there, then, well, we tolerate it and
move on, maybe someone on the list sends that person an email
- Original Message -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Pacific Internet Users Group Mailing List [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, December 02, 2004 2:47 PM
Subject: [pignet] The Politics are starting
I found this in the Washington Post - Interesting?
By Shaun Waterman
UNITED PRESS
In Ciscoland its called Autosecure (IOS 12.3):
http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/cc/pd/iosw/prodlit/cas11_ds.htm
Blocks all IANA reserved IP address blocks
The actual doc:
http://niatec.info/mediacontent/cisco/media/targets/resources_mod07/7_1_2_AutoSecure.pdf
Problem is, I still do not see
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