Re: High Density Multimode Runs BCP?

2005-01-26 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 00:48:25 EST, "Hannigan, Martin" said: > As I said earlier, ribbon isn't designed for data centers, > nor is innerduct designed for ribbon. > > I'd love to see some photos of people using innerduct+ribbon > cable. :-) And let me guess - it probably actually works (more or les

RE: High Density Multimode Runs BCP?

2005-01-26 Thread Hannigan, Martin
Just in case some folks are wondering what we are talking about, here's a decent URL covering it: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.tpub.com/neets/tm/30NVM053 .GIF&imgrefurl=http://www.tpub.com/neets/tm/107-8.htm&h=387&w=397&sz=13&tbni d=gGUI7fKu6OwJ:&tbnh=116&tbnw=119&start=16

RE: High Density Multimode Runs BCP?

2005-01-26 Thread Hannigan, Martin
> -Original Message- > From: Scott McGrath [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 10:44 PM > To: Hannigan, Martin > Cc: nanog@merit.edu > Subject: RE: High Density Multimode Runs BCP? > > > > Hi, Martin > > Yes indeed the ribbon cable. Tho' due to the damage fac

Re: 'Whois protection service'

2005-01-26 Thread Mark Foster
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:26:00 +1300, Mark Foster said: > > > I'm unsure how appropriate it is to post anything more specific in the > > open forum, but i've never seen this before. Whats the deal with hiding a > > domain name owners true identity? >

Re: 'Whois protection service'

2005-01-26 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:26:00 +1300, Mark Foster said: > I'm unsure how appropriate it is to post anything more specific in the > open forum, but i've never seen this before. Whats the deal with hiding a > domain name owners true identity? Happens all the time.. > Is this not simply yet another p

Re: 'Whois protection service'

2005-01-26 Thread Joshua Brady
On Thu, 27 Jan 2005 16:26:00 +1300 (NZDT), Mark Foster <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Hi folks. Hello Mark, > Don't post a lot here but i'm figuring you folks will know more about this > than my local NOG... Glad to have you on NANOG. > When investigating a host that spammed me today, I noted

RE: High Density Multimode Runs BCP?

2005-01-26 Thread Scott McGrath
Hi, Martin Yes indeed the ribbon cable. Tho' due to the damage factor I probably would not specify it again unless I could use innerduct to protect it as we had some machine room renovations done and the construction workers managed to kink the underfloor runs as well as setting off the Halon s

'Whois protection service'

2005-01-26 Thread Mark Foster
Hi folks. Don't post a lot here but i'm figuring you folks will know more about this than my local NOG... When investigating a host that spammed me today, I noted that when I whois'd the domain that the mailserver involved has forward/reverse dns pair for, the domain whois information comes up as

Re: High Density Multimode Runs BCP?

2005-01-26 Thread David Lesher
Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: > > > > Look into MPO cabling > > MPO uses fiber ribbon cables the most common of which is 6x2 > six strands by two layers I've helped deploy/retrieve MBO at the recent IETF at the Hinckley Hilton here in DC. It's not Mil-Spec sturdy

Re: High Density Multimode Runs BCP?

2005-01-26 Thread Thor Lancelot Simon
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 09:17:44PM -0500, John Fraizer wrote: > > >I assume multiplexing up to 10Gb (possibly two links thereof) and then > >back down is cost-prohibitive? That's probably the "best" practice. > > It's best practice to put two new points of failure (mux + demux) in a > 200m fib

Re: High Density Multimode Runs BCP?

2005-01-26 Thread John Fraizer
Thor Lancelot Simon wrote: On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 07:23:17PM -0500, Deepak Jain wrote: I have a situation where I want to run Nx24 pairs of GE across a datacenter to several different customers. Runs are about 200meters max. When running say 24-pairs of multi-mode across a datacenter, I have co

Re: again: how to get an IP from EP.net

2005-01-26 Thread James
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 02:28:04PM +, Carlos Friacas wrote: > > On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Fredy Kuenzler wrote: > > > > >another thing the world does not need > > > > Regardless of how many people think and believe "IPv6 is broken by design", the IPv6 Global Routing Table is consistently increas

Re: An open letter to Mike Delany, mdelany@databasecity.com

2005-01-26 Thread Mark Andrews
Mike has claimed this was a hostest mistake. I'll take him at his word and apologise for this. Mark > To: "Mike Delany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > > Thank you for spaming me. You have just been reported to > federal authorities ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) that m

RE: High Density Multimode Runs BCP?

2005-01-26 Thread Scott McGrath
Hi, Thor We used it to create zone distribution points throughout our datacenter's which ran back to a central distribution point. This solution has been in place for almost 4 years. We have 10Gb SM ethernet links traversing the datacenter which link to the campus distribution center. The o

An open letter to Mike Delany, mdelany@databasecity.com

2005-01-26 Thread Mark Andrews
To: "Mike Delany" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> Thank you for spaming me. You have just been reported to federal authorities ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) that may or may not persue the matter further. You are in clear violation of Australian law, "Spam Act 2003", h

RE: High Density Multimode Runs BCP?

2005-01-26 Thread Hannigan, Martin
> -Original Message- > From: Thor Lancelot Simon [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 3:17 PM > To: Hannigan, Martin; nanog@merit.edu > Subject: Re: High Density Multimode Runs BCP? > > > On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 02:49:29PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote: > > > >

beware of the unknown packets

2005-01-26 Thread Petri Helenius
http://www.kb.cert.org/vuls/id/409555 Pete

Re: High Density Multimode Runs BCP?

2005-01-26 Thread Thor Lancelot Simon
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 02:49:29PM -0500, Hannigan, Martin wrote: > > > > > > When running say 24-pairs of multi-mode across a datacenter, I have > > > considered a few solutions, but am not sure what is > > common/best practice. > > > > I assume multiplexing up to 10Gb (possibly two links the

Re: Contact point for Lockheed Martin...

2005-01-26 Thread Michael Loftis
No longer needed, they finally got back to me via regular channels. Sorry for the list spam folks.

RE: High Density Multimode Runs BCP?

2005-01-26 Thread Hannigan, Martin
> -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of > Thor Lancelot Simon > Sent: Wednesday, January 26, 2005 2:09 PM > To: nanog@merit.edu > Subject: Re: High Density Multimode Runs BCP? > > > > On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 07:23:17PM -0500, Deepak Jain wrote

Contact point for Lockheed Martin...

2005-01-26 Thread Michael Loftis
Does anyone have a live and clueful contact point for Lockheed? They're running some badly broken proxy software that requests HTTP keepalive service, then 'forgets' about the connection. After forgetting about the connection it makes new ones. Right now I'm playing whack-a-mole as whatever

Re: High Density Multimode Runs BCP?

2005-01-26 Thread Thor Lancelot Simon
On Tue, Jan 25, 2005 at 07:23:17PM -0500, Deepak Jain wrote: > > > I have a situation where I want to run Nx24 pairs of GE across a > datacenter to several different customers. Runs are about 200meters max. > > When running say 24-pairs of multi-mode across a datacenter, I have > considered a

Sunday Night NANOG Community Input Agenda (update)

2005-01-26 Thread Hannigan, Martin
Here's a quick update: 1. Q&A has been moved to the end. 2. Introduction: Paul Vixie with Martin Hannigan, 5 min. 3. Overview, History, & Structure of NANOG: Betty Burke, 15 min. 4. Program Committee Review: Steve Feldman, 20 min. 5. Reform Proposal: Dan Golding et. al., 15 min. See the

Re: High Density Multimode Runs BCP?

2005-01-26 Thread Scott McGrath
Look into MPO cabling MPO uses fiber ribbon cables the most common of which is 6x2 six strands by two layers Panduit has several solutions which use cartridges so you get a cartridge with your desired termination type and run the MPO cable between the cartridges. This cabling under another nam

NANOG33 PGP Key Signing

2005-01-26 Thread Majdi Abbas
When you check in for NANOG33, there will be colored stickers available for your name tag that indicate if you have an interest in signing PGP keys. If people keep trying to peer with you, you've picked the wrong color sticker and should go back. We are meeting at 9:00pm on Mon

Re: Need to get in contact with Namecheap web hosting

2005-01-26 Thread John Kinsella
Cheap, Fast, Efficient...So they're not even getting two of the three? Sorry, I couldn't resist... John On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 12:18:03PM -0600, Nine, Jason wrote: > > Does anyone have any ideas how to get in contact with namecheap? Short > of driving up there noone is really helpful with our

Need to get in contact with Namecheap web hosting

2005-01-26 Thread Nine, Jason
Does anyone have any ideas how to get in contact with namecheap? Short of driving up there noone is really helpful with our issue. We need to get a serial number incremented on a DNS change, and they cant seem to understand our update. Thanks Jason

Cisco Security Advisory: Cisco IOS Misformed BGP Packet Causes Reload

2005-01-26 Thread Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team
address this problem. This issue is tracked by CERT/CC VU#689326. This advisory will be posted at http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20050126-bgp.shtml. Affected Products = Vulnerable Products +-- This vulnerability is present in any unfixed version of

Cisco Security Advisory: Crafted Packet Causes Reload on Cisco Routers

2005-01-26 Thread Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team
are workarounds available to mitigate the effects. This issue is tracked by CERT/CC VU#583638. This advisory is available at http://www.cisco.com/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20050126-les.shtml. Affected Products = Vulnerable Products Only the following products running a

Cisco Security Advisory: Multiple Crafted IPv6 Packets Cause Reload

2005-01-26 Thread Cisco Systems Product Security Incident Response Team
/warp/public/707/cisco-sa-20050126-ipv6.shtml. Affected Products = Vulnerable Products Only the Cisco devices running IOS and configured for IPv6 are affected. A router will display all IPv6 enabled interfaces with the show ipv6 interface command. An empty output or an error message

Re: again: how to get an IP from EP.net

2005-01-26 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
Daniel Roesen wrote: On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 03:10:58PM +0100, Fredy Kuenzler wrote: wrt IPv6... why not? another thing the world does not need So why do you peer IPv6 at NYIIX, AMSIX and probably other IXPs as well? We don't yet. But we will sometime soon, hopefully (IPv6 customer demand). But

Re: again: how to get an IP from EP.net

2005-01-26 Thread Carlos Friacas
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005, Fredy Kuenzler wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: the paix engineering team does the assignments for PAIX exchanges. we (EP) just shunt the request to them. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> should respond to the requestor with the address assigned. Ok, little mis-understanding. The PAIX form a

Re: again: how to get an IP from EP.net

2005-01-26 Thread Jeroen Massar
On Wed, 2005-01-26 at 15:10 +0100, Fredy Kuenzler wrote: > [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > wrt IPv6... why not? > > > another thing the world does not need > You mean another thing your little part of the world does not need ? Fortunately Switzerland has already a number of IPv6 enabled ISP's*

Re: again: how to get an IP from EP.net

2005-01-26 Thread Daniel Roesen
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 03:10:58PM +0100, Fredy Kuenzler wrote: > > wrt IPv6... why not? > > > another thing the world does not need > So why do you peer IPv6 at NYIIX, AMSIX and probably other IXPs as well? What strikes me odd is that PAIX-* still uses crufty 6BONE 3ffe space for their peeri

Re: again: how to get an IP from EP.net

2005-01-26 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > the paix engineering team does the assignments for PAIX exchanges. > we (EP) just shunt the request to them. <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> should > respond to the requestor with the address assigned. Ok, little mis-understanding. The PAIX form asks for the ip address, there is no

Re: again: how to get an IP from EP.net

2005-01-26 Thread bmanning
On Wed, Jan 26, 2005 at 02:31:38PM +0100, Fredy Kuenzler wrote: > > I'm a bit puzzled. Last week I filled in the form > http://www.ep.net/ipadd-req.html to get an IP for PAIX-NYC. Received an > automated response that the request has been submitted. > > No response yet after 4 or 5 days, but a

again: how to get an IP from EP.net

2005-01-26 Thread Fredy Kuenzler
I'm a bit puzzled. Last week I filled in the form http://www.ep.net/ipadd-req.html to get an IP for PAIX-NYC. Received an automated response that the request has been submitted. No response yet after 4 or 5 days, but at http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras/ep all of a sudden our IP is listed. Is this re