Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting)

2005-02-09 Thread Petri Helenius
Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: Hi, you probably didnt think of this but it might not be a good idea to publish a list of 3000 computers than can be infected/taken over for further nastiness. Collecting that kind of list on any machine on the public internet takes only a day or so, so I don't think

Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting)

2005-02-09 Thread Gadi Evron
Bill Nash wrote: Various persons put forth some amount of effort to, graciously, give other operators a heads up to the ongoing/potential abuse of their networks, and you're concerned about topical relevance? Why aren't you, Aside to if botnet issues were discussed here, it would flood the list

RE: IRC Bot list (cross posting)

2005-02-09 Thread Hannigan, Martin
-Original Message- From: Bill Nash [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, February 09, 2005 3:31 AM To: Hannigan, Martin Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: IRC Bot list (cross posting) On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Hannigan, Martin wrote: [ snip ] Various persons put forth some

Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting)

2005-02-09 Thread J.D. Falk
On 02/09/05, Bill Nash [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And I'm not subscribed to either. Yet, I've no less than a /19 of space under my purview and I don't believe that publishing botnet lists in the manner that has been done is either off topic, or off charter. Some of us, as hosting providers

Re: [unisog] Collecting PTR names rather than IP addresses (Was: Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting))

2005-02-09 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Wed, 09 Feb 2005 12:11:16 GMT, Ketil Froyn said: http://www.albany.edu/~ja6447/hacked_bots8.txt Isn't it a good idea to collect the IP addresses rather than the ptr name? For instance, if I were an evil person in control of the ptr record of my own IP, I could easily make the name

RE: IRC Bot list (cross posting)

2005-02-09 Thread Bill Nash
On Wed, 9 Feb 2005, Hannigan, Martin wrote: out botnet lists to NANOG, fine by me. I never said I can stop them. I just said I didn't want them as a subscriber. I understand that you don't know where these existing lists are. Look hard. If you suddenly care about bots enough in the last 24 hours

Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting)

2005-02-09 Thread Michael Loftis
--On Wednesday, February 09, 2005 11:28 +0200 Gadi Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why is it a bad idea then? Because not all of us are Bill Nash who won't pwn a user. The same can easily be said for ANY public forum.

ICANN Engages Independent Evaluation Team to Review .NET Applications

2005-02-09 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
I'm surprised to have not heard anyone mention this http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-07feb05.htm - ferg -- Fergie, a.k.a. Paul Ferguson Engineering Architecture for the Internet [EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting)

2005-02-09 Thread Gadi Evron
Why is it a bad idea then? Because not all of us are Bill Nash who won't pwn a user. The same can easily be said for ANY public forum. Yes.

Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting)

2005-02-09 Thread Paul Vixie
There's TWO places that are doing this botnet stuff and the NANOG AUP discourages cross posting. I for one certainly don't want yet another list full of botnet stuff. And I'm not subscribed to either. Yet, I've no less than a /19 of space under my purview and I don't believe that

Re: ICANN Engages Independent Evaluation Team to Review .NET Applications

2005-02-09 Thread Darrell Greenwood
At 5:30 PM + 05/2/9, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote: I'm surprised to have not heard anyone mention this http://www.icann.org/announcements/announcement-07feb05.htm I'm surprised that SAIC has been given another opportunity to negatively impact the internet. From

Savvis Contact

2005-02-09 Thread Williams, Ken
Can any networkengineer from the Savvis network please contact me off-line. Kind Regards, Ken Williams Network Security Engineer Sony Pictures Digital Entertainment

Re: 72.18.160.0/19 Please Check Filters - BOGON Filtering IP Space 72.0.0.0/8

2005-02-09 Thread Josh Richards
That's lovely: 72.29.160.0/20 was lent to us by ARIN just last week so we're in the same boat. -jr * Bryan Bradsby [EMAIL PROTECTED] [20050119 19:28]: Our NOC is opening a lot of tickets for customers that live on our 72.14.128.0/19 network going towards local and federal government

Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting)

2005-02-09 Thread Bill Nash
[ Edited and resent, the first appears to have vanished in transit ] I concede the point that operational tracking of botnets doesn't belong here, and I offer apologies to Martin, and the list in general, for not counting to ten before replying to his email. However, simply suppressing

Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting)

2005-02-09 Thread Jim Popovitch
On Wed, 2005-02-09 at 22:04 -0800, Bill Nash wrote: Moving to a more productive stance for this thread: How many people have subbed in the past month? The past year? There's stuff in the FAQ about what's directly relevent to this particular list, but there are a million related sub-topics