Re: The Cidr Report

2005-02-14 Thread Hank Nussbacher
At 10:27 AM 14-02-05 +1000, Philip Smith wrote: Well said. At NANOG you get the clueful people cuz they at least knew to come. That is a start. But there are hundreds of ISPs out there who don't have a clue. RIPE realized this without having to do a membership poll and rightly so, goes and

Re: The Cidr Report

2005-02-14 Thread Elmar K. Bins
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Hank Nussbacher) wrote: Duh! No suprise there. ARIN just gives IP space and only offers some measly online training: http://www.arin.net/library/training/index.html RIPE on the other hand, has 3-6 course a month, throughout Europe:

Re: Collecting PTR names or IP addresses (Was: Re: IRC Bot list (crossposting))

2005-02-14 Thread Gadi Evron
Ketil Froyn wrote: http://www.albany.edu/~ja6447/hacked_bots8.txt Isn't it a good idea to collect the IP addresses rather than the ptr name? For instance, if I were an evil person in control of the ptr record of my own IP, I could easily make the name something like 1-2-3-4.dsl.verizon.net, and

RE: The Cidr Report

2005-02-14 Thread John van Oppen
Hank and Warren are right on. I have seen several ISPs (one of which has been around a long time) who don't even understand the basics of CIDR routing or why they should aggregate their announcements. This same group are the ones who are not subscribed to this mailing list and don't go to

Re: Collecting PTR names or IP addresses (Was: Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting))

2005-02-14 Thread Gadi Evron
PTR records are just as pointless as A records... in a secured DNS heirarchy, this is less of an issue We are not quite there yet, are we? since you have to spoof the entire delegation chain. so either trust the DNS (both forward and reverse) or not. For

Re: Collecting PTR names or IP addresses (Was: Re: IRC Bot list (cross posting))

2005-02-14 Thread Gadi Evron
Adam Jacob Muller wrote: Not possible with most modern IRCD's since they check forward and reverse dns. So for example if your address is: 1.2.3.4 and that resolves to: 1-2-3-4.dsl.verizon.net the ircd make sure that: 1-2-3-4.dsl.verizon.net resolves back to 1.2.3.4 it's a simple

Re: Collecting PTR names or IP addresses (Was: Re: IRC Bot list (crossposting))

2005-02-14 Thread Ketil Froyn
On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 11:29 +0200, Gadi Evron wrote: Isn't it a good idea to collect the IP addresses rather than the ptr name? For instance, if I were an evil person in control of the ptr record of my own IP, I could easily make the name something like 1-2-3-4.dsl.verizon.net, and if

Verizon wins MCI

2005-02-14 Thread Hannigan, Martin
I was set on QUUest or UUQwest for the new name, too. Verizon wins the battle for MCI, pays 7B. http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=storycid=1802e=2u=/washpost/2005021 4/ts_washpost/a22085_2005feb13 -- Martin Hannigan (c) 617-388-2663 VeriSign, Inc.

Re: Collecting PTR names or IP addresses (Was: Re: IRC Bot list (crossposting))

2005-02-14 Thread Kevin
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005 12:50:17 +, Ketil Froyn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2005-02-14 at 11:29 +0200, Gadi Evron wrote: Isn't it a good idea to collect the IP addresses rather than the ptr name? For instance, if I were an evil person in control of the ptr record of my own IP, I

Verizon wins MCI

2005-02-14 Thread David Lesher
From: Hannigan, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] I was set on QUUest or UUQwest for the new name, too. Verizon wins the battle for MCI, pays 7B. VerizUUtal? -- A host is a host from coast to [EMAIL PROTECTED] no one will talk to a host that's close[v].(301) 56-LINUX Unless the host

Re: Collecting PTR names or IP addresses (Was: Re: IRC Bot list (crossposting))

2005-02-14 Thread Gadi Evron
I wouldn't collect the contents of an A record, if that's what you mean. I meant that it would be better to collect the IP of whoever is connected to the irc server directly, eliminating the entire, possibly misleading, step of DNS lookups. Faking that IP is more difficult. Agreed. I always

RE: The Cidr Report

2005-02-14 Thread Hannigan, Martin
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of Hank Nussbacher Sent: Monday, February 14, 2005 3:26 AM To: Philip Smith Cc: Nanog Subject: Re: The Cidr Report At 10:27 AM 14-02-05 +1000, Philip Smith wrote: Well said. At NANOG you get the

Re: Break-In At SAIC Risks ID Theft

2005-02-14 Thread Todd Vierling
On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Jim Popovitch wrote: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A17506-2005Feb11.html (registration required) Registration is not required if you copypaste the above URL into Google and then click the URL returned in the search results. ;-) Same trick works for

Re: Verizon wins MCI

2005-02-14 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Hannigan, Martin wrote: I was set on QUUest or UUQwest for the new name, too. What, don't you like UUVeriNET even better? :) Verizon wins the battle for MCI, pays 7B. I'm not financier, but this price seems rather low considering how large Worldcom is/used to be and

RE: Verizon wins MCI

2005-02-14 Thread McLean Pickett
Yes, this includes the former Digex Web Hosting employees (from a former Digex employee...) It does not include the former Digex Leased Line/Intermedia staff - those that still exist. McLean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of

Re: Verizon wins MCI

2005-02-14 Thread Kevin Oberman
Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:22:36 -0800 (PST) From: william(at)elan.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Hannigan, Martin wrote: I was set on QUUest or UUQwest for the new name, too. What, don't you like UUVeriNET even better? :) Verizon wins

Re: Verizon wins MCI

2005-02-14 Thread Jeff Wheeler
On Feb 14, 2005, at 2:31 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:22:36 -0800 (PST) From: william(at)elan.net [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Hannigan, Martin wrote: I was set on QUUest or UUQwest for the new name, too. What, don't you like UUVeriNET

3rd Party Cisco CWDM GBICs?

2005-02-14 Thread Aaron Thomas
Hi List, Cisco currently provides 8 lambdas for CWDM and we have a 10 lambda mux/de-mux system we want to make use of over a single fibre (5 data channels). The 1430 and 1450nm lambdas are dark and I was wondering if there are any 3rd party vendors out there that have produced Cisco compatible

Re: 3rd Party Cisco CWDM GBICs?

2005-02-14 Thread Michael Smith
From: Aaron Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 11:52:46 -0800 To: 'nanog list' nanog@merit.edu Subject: 3rd Party Cisco CWDM GBICs? Hi List, Cisco currently provides 8 lambdas for CWDM and we have a 10 lambda mux/de-mux system we want to make use of over a single fibre

Re: Break-In At SAIC Risks ID Theft

2005-02-14 Thread Irwin Lazar
You can always use http://www.bugmenot.com/ as well. irwin From: Todd Vierling [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 14 Feb 2005 10:22:21 -0500 (EST) To: Jim Popovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Break-In At SAIC Risks ID Theft On Sun, 13 Feb 2005, Jim Popovitch wrote:

Level3 using uRPF on their access routers

2005-02-14 Thread Lucas Iglesias
Hi all, Does anybody know if Level3 is performing Unicast Reverse Path Forwarding on it's interfaces with it's customers? Did anybody have problems with this fact (if so)? We have a multihoming customer, and we found out that packets sent to Level3 sourced with IP blocks winning over other

Re: 3rd Party Cisco CWDM GBICs?

2005-02-14 Thread Arnold Nipper
On 14.02.2005 20:52 Aaron Thomas wrote Hi List, Cisco currently provides 8 lambdas for CWDM and we have a 10 lambda mux/de-mux system we want to make use of over a single fibre (5 data channels). The 1430 and 1450nm lambdas are dark and I was wondering if there are any 3rd party vendors out there

RE: The Cidr Report

2005-02-14 Thread Barry Raveendran Greene
Based on the experience with the CIDR Police project (http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0302/cidr.html), you can encourge operators to aggregate. My observation during that time was that operators: - Didn't know they had a problem. - Didn't know how to set up an aggregation policy - Had no one paying

RADB anon ftp server stoned or deprecated?

2005-02-14 Thread Bill Nash
$ ftp ftp.radb.net Connected to ftp.radb.net (198.108.1.48). 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection $ ftp ftp.merit.edu Connected to ftp.merit.edu (198.108.1.48). 421 Service not available, remote server has closed connection - billn

Re: RADB anon ftp server stoned or deprecated?

2005-02-14 Thread Mike Tancsa
Works for me. Are you sure you are not coming from a PTR/A record mismatch ? smarthost1# host 66.235.194.37 37.194.235.66.IN-ADDR.ARPA domain name pointer ds194-37.ipowerweb.com smarthost1# host ds194-37.ipowerweb.com Host not found. smarthost1# smarthost1# host -tns ipowerweb.com ipowerweb.com

Re: RADB anon ftp server stoned or deprecated?

2005-02-14 Thread Bill Nash
Quite possibly, didn't even occur to me to check from that host. Donkey shins for the clue by four. - billn On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Mike Tancsa wrote: Works for me. Are you sure you are not coming from a PTR/A record mismatch ? smarthost1# host 66.235.194.37 37.194.235.66.IN-ADDR.ARPA domain

Source for IDS data

2005-02-14 Thread Eric Germann
One more request for the group. Looking for some contacts off list who would be willing to discuss supplying some IDS data. Ideal candidates for this research would have the following characteristics: 1. Have a fairly visible network that draws appreciable attempts. 2. Have an IDS

Re: Verizon wins MCI

2005-02-14 Thread Jon Lewis
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, william(at)elan.net wrote: Verizon wins the battle for MCI, pays 7B. I'm not financier, but this price seems rather low considering how large Worldcom is/used to be and that it includes all former UUNET, MCI, MFS, WCOM, etc. BTW - did this include Digex as well? But

Re: Verizon wins MCI

2005-02-14 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, Jon Lewis wrote: On Mon, 14 Feb 2005, william(at)elan.net wrote: Verizon wins the battle for MCI, pays 7B. I'm not financier, but this price seems rather low considering how large Worldcom is/used to be and that it includes all former UUNET, MCI, MFS, WCOM,

Re: Verizon wins MCI

2005-02-14 Thread Robert Boyle
At 11:45 PM 2/14/2005, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: uhm, thats the '70 billing departments' ... or so said the SEC's info about how many billing systems were 'integrated' during the bernie-dynastic-times. I remember reading in IT Week or Infoweek or some other trade rag that they had over 2400

Re: The Cidr Report

2005-02-14 Thread Mark Prior
Jerry Pasker wrote: Until there's deep shame, or real financial incentive to not being listed as a member of the dirty 30, nothing is going to happen in terms of aggregation. I sometimes wonder if this list is seen as some sort of hit parade of potential peers and if that is the case then

Cisco 3640 Flash errors - upgrade bootrom?

2005-02-14 Thread Kim Onnel
I have a 3640 that while booting up gives the errors below at the console, Console Errors: _ C3600 processor with 65536 Kbytes of main memory Main memory is configured to 64 bit mode with parity disabled unknown flash deĆ¾ System Bootstrap, Version 11.1(7)AX [kuong (7)AX], EARLY