Re: as numbers

2005-08-01 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Tue, 2 Aug 2005, Geoff Huston wrote: There is a draft draft-ietf-idr-as4bytes-10.txt- it is a draft because under the current IETF procedures there needs to be 2 independent implementations of the specification, and at the moment only Redback's BGP has implemented this. Once there is a 2

Re: as numbers

2005-08-01 Thread Geoff Huston
At 08:15 PM 1/08/2005, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: On Sun, 31 Jul 2005, Geoff Huston wrote: > So - to NANOG at large - if you want your vendor to include 4-Byte AS support > in their BGP code anytime soon, in order to avoid some last minute panic in a > couple of years hence, then it would appea

Could someone from Dotster pls Contact me offlist?

2005-08-01 Thread Alon Tirosh
Thanks

Re: as numbers

2005-08-01 Thread Joe Abley
On 1 Aug 2005, at 06:15, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote: On Sun, 31 Jul 2005, Geoff Huston wrote: So - to NANOG at large - if you want your vendor to include 4-Byte AS support in their BGP code anytime soon, in order to avoid some last minute panic in a couple of years hence, then it would appear

Re: "Cisco gate" and "Meet the Fed" at Defcon....

2005-08-01 Thread Randy Bush
fred, seeing as there is not now, and likely never will be fixed versions for many of our routers (25xx, 17xx, ..., and i can't find a path up from my 7200 k4p-mz.120-25.4.S on the web site), your logic tells us that cisco will never announce. i am sure this is not what you intend. randy

Re: as numbers

2005-08-01 Thread Gaurab Raj Upadhaya
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Anyone who uses the argument of inter-domain routing that are not seen by any data collectors on the Internet should be pointed at RFC1930 and told to renumber their private ASNs. Just because public route collectors can't see use of an ASN

Re: "Cisco gate" and "Meet the Fed" at Defcon....

2005-08-01 Thread Peter Dambier
Guy Coslado (GC0111) wrote: Excuse me, I'm not really fluent in english, so this sentence is not clear for me : On 1 Aug 2005 at 11:47, Fred Baker wrote: We aren't very impressed by people that expose the industry to danger. It means they give a s**t for us, their customers. Are you

Re: "Cisco gate" and "Meet the Fed" at Defcon....

2005-08-01 Thread Susan Harris
Folks, let's end this thread - 'nuff said.

Re: Tiscali switches to Public-Root?? What do you think?

2005-08-01 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Mon, 1 Aug 2005, Bjørn Mork wrote: > The poor guy/gal at the other end of the line will need a really good > answer. Does anyone here have one? to avoid being technical i guess the only answer would be to say this is a private service offered to tiscali users and is not available to any non

Re: as numbers

2005-08-01 Thread Stephen J. Wilcox
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005, Geoff Huston wrote: > So - to NANOG at large - if you want your vendor to include 4-Byte AS support > in their BGP code anytime soon, in order to avoid some last minute panic in a > couple of years hence, then it would appear that you should talk to them now > and say clearly

Re: "Cisco gate" and "Meet the Fed" at Defcon....

2005-08-01 Thread Brad Knowles
At 11:47 AM +0200 2005-08-01, Fred Baker wrote: We very much try to work with people that are willing to work with us. We aren't very impressed by people that expose the industry to danger. Here's the fundamental problem. You guys say that you're willing to work with people. But on the

Re: "Cisco gate" and "Meet the Fed" at Defcon....

2005-08-01 Thread Fred Baker
Cisco, are you listening? Cisco is in fact listening. Cisco, like other companies, generally does not release security notices until enough information exists to allow customers to make a reasonable determination as to whether or not they are at risk and how to mitigate possible risk.

Re: as numbers

2005-08-01 Thread bmanning
On Mon, Aug 01, 2005 at 09:17:58AM +0200, Daniel Karrenberg wrote: > On 31.07 17:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > > > we did that (move a root) in the CIDR /8 experiment. > > we could do it for this too :) > > one root name server: yes > the root name servers: no, definitely not > >

Re: Tiscali switches to Public-Root?? What do you think?

2005-08-01 Thread Brandon Butterworth
> "www.really-cool.alt. Now fix your systems so I can access it" > > The poor guy/gal at the other end of the line will need a really good > answer. "Looks like your friend has been duped by some domain hijackers/phishers exploiting a DNS security hole. We've kept you safe from that perhaps you

Re: "Cisco gate" and "Meet the Fed" at Defcon....

2005-08-01 Thread Dan Hollis
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005, Fergie (Paul Ferguson) wrote: > No one ever said the Internet wasn't chock full of contradictions. > One one hand, we have what some are now calling "Cisco gate": > http://news.com.com/Hackers+rally+behind+Cisco+flaw+finder/2100-1002_3-5812044.html Alder then blasted Cisco fo

Re: Tiscali switches to Public-Root?? What do you think?

2005-08-01 Thread Bjørn Mork
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > On Sun, 31 Jul 2005 08:45:29 CDT, "John Palmer (NANOG Acct)" said: >> "... As a result of this agreement, Tiscali will offer to its subscribers >> across Europe the access to the entire World Wide Web, including the new >> alternative domain names. > > I can see it now.

Re: More info on the Exploit from Black Hat conference

2005-08-01 Thread Dan Hollis
On Sun, 31 Jul 2005, Piotr KUCHARSKI wrote: > > I took pictures of the slides but may have missed one or two. Grab them > > here: http://164.106.251.250/docs/netsec/defcon13/7-27-05.zip Looks like its already gone. ISS/Cisco threat? > PS I took the liberty of mirroring it at 42.pl/lynn/ Let u

Re: as numbers

2005-08-01 Thread Daniel Karrenberg
On 31.07 17:20, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > > we did that (move a root) in the CIDR /8 experiment. > we could do it for this too :) one root name server: yes the root name servers: no, definitely not Daniel PS: Ony as soon as implementations are available of course ! ;-(