Multi-6 [WAS: OT - Vint Cerf joins Google]

2005-09-09 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
[Perhaps this thread should migrate to Multi6?] On Sep 9, 2005, at 11:55 PM, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Daniel Golding wrote: Getting back on-topic - how can this be? I thought only service providers (with downstream customers) could get PI v6 space. Isn't this what

Re: OT - Vint Cerf joins Google

2005-09-09 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Daniel Golding wrote: > > > Getting back on-topic - how can this be? I thought only service providers > (with downstream customers) could get PI v6 space. Isn't this what policy > proposal 2005-1 is about? Can someone (from ARIN?) explain the current > policy? what if they d

Re: OT - Vint Cerf joins Google

2005-09-09 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Mr. James W. Laferriere wrote: However there is a difference between company becoming LIR and becoming member of ARIN and paying annual membership fee (based on network size) and company applying for single IPv6 assignment (as per 2005-1) and not having to pay membership

Re: OT - Vint Cerf joins Google

2005-09-09 Thread Mr. James W. Laferriere
Hello William , On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, william(at)elan.net wrote: On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Daniel Golding wrote: Getting back on-topic - how can this be? I thought only service providers (with downstream customers) could get PI v6 space. Isn't this what policy proposal 2005-1 is about? Can so

Re: OT - Vint Cerf joins Google

2005-09-09 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Daniel Golding wrote: Getting back on-topic - how can this be? I thought only service providers (with downstream customers) could get PI v6 space. Isn't this what policy proposal 2005-1 is about? Can someone (from ARIN?) explain the current policy? Its my understanding th

Re: OT - Vint Cerf joins Google

2005-09-09 Thread Daniel Golding
Getting back on-topic - how can this be? I thought only service providers (with downstream customers) could get PI v6 space. Isn't this what policy proposal 2005-1 is about? Can someone (from ARIN?) explain the current policy? - Daniel Golding On 9/9/05 2:16 PM, "Steven J. Sobol" <[EMAIL PROTEC

Re: OT - Vint Cerf joins Google

2005-09-09 Thread George William Herbert
>How widespread *is* IPv6 adoption, anyhow? It's easier convincing some people to have root canals or elective brain surgery than to broach the subject of their software gaining IPv6 compatibility. It's really annoying. It shouldn't be this hard. -george william herbert [EMAIL PROTECTED]

China Telecom Blocking Skype

2005-09-09 Thread Fergie (Paul Ferguson)
Okay, don't get too excited. I'm not trying to incite the whole off-topic thread that was going here earlier regarding ethical issues regarding China content, etc, However, on the issue of services denial (thinking back to the discussion of various ISP's around the world blocking various service,

Re: 12/8 problems?

2005-09-09 Thread Petri Helenius
Drew Linsalata wrote: Richard A Steenbergen wrote: $10 says someone forgot "ip classless". Is there a valid argument for making "ip classless" the default in the IOS? Seems to me that it would only solve problems, but I don't profess to be a routing guru, especially in comparison to fo

need a contact at verizon...

2005-09-09 Thread Perry E. Metzger
I need a contact at Verizon (or at least for whatever portion of their IP network is AS 6167). Anyone know who to talk to? I've discovered a badly screwed up router inside the network that serves their EVDO wireless customers but trying to fight my way up through the normal channels turns out to

Re: OT - Vint Cerf joins Google

2005-09-09 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Fri, 09 Sep 2005 14:12:45 EDT, "Steven J. Sobol" said: > I'm sure there are a lot of ways Dr. Cerf could benefit the company. I > guess I'm a little surprised that they hired him outright and just didn't > give him a seat on the board of directors. Why is that surprising? How much *actual*

Re: Correct inclusion of rwhois info in WHOIS server output?

2005-09-09 Thread Albert Meyer
Thanks to everyone who replied on and off-list. I'm concluding that there is a problem with WHOIS server output, caused mostly by a lack of standards, but people with more influence than me are already working on fixing that. In the meantime I'll see if I talk to the gnu maintainer about makin

Not OT: Why Cerf jumped to Google

2005-09-09 Thread Steven J. Sobol
There seems to be some operational content in this C|Net News.com article: Specifically, "The Mountain View, Calif., company has been investing heavily in a communications infrastructure, buying up dark fi

Re: OT - Vint Cerf joins Google

2005-09-09 Thread Steven J. Sobol
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote: > I was thinking yesterday that IPv6 evangelization is a good reason, > specially when recalling that Google asked for a prefix some time ago > (http://www.ipv6tf.org/news/newsroom.php?id=1001) and something is probably > being baked there ? So i

Katrina Network Damage Report

2005-09-09 Thread Todd Underwood
As promised, Renesys has released a brief paper on the effects of Hurricane Katrina as seen from the Internet. We cover the period of land fall in some detail and also review the recovery efforts. http://www.renesys.com/resource_library/Renesys-Katrina-Report-9sep2005.pdf People who are inter

RE: OT - Vint Cerf joins Google

2005-09-09 Thread Steven J. Sobol
On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Mark Bodley wrote: > His name has never "hurt" a companies stock price. Remember MCI--Um, > Worldcom. Remembering.. Um lost a ton of money... just remember. First time > I have noticed Google do anything so blatant. Time to sell Google? Are they > spending money on figure hea

Re: 12/8 problems?

2005-09-09 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
"Israel, David B." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes: > Actually, my practical solution to this one is max-prefixing your peers. > It means you have to watch your peers slow growth, but frankly, you > should be watching that anyway. Max-prefix is part of the battle. A corollary "max-aggregate" where

Weekly Routing Table Report

2005-09-09 Thread Routing Table Analysis
This is an automated weekly mailing describing the state of the Internet Routing Table as seen from APNIC's router in Japan. Daily listings are sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] If you have any comments please contact Philip Smith <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>. Routing Table Report 04:00 +10GMT Sat 10 Sep, 2005

Re: OT - Vint Cerf joins Google

2005-09-09 Thread Steven J. Sobol
On Thu, 8 Sep 2005, Joe McGuckin wrote: > > They're just collecting all the big brains, putting them in big glass jars mmhmm, someone's been watching too much Futurama, eh? -- Steve Sobol, Professional Geek 888-480-4638 PGP: 0xE3AE35ED Company website: http://JustThe.net/ Personal blog, r

RE: 12/8 problems?

2005-09-09 Thread Steve Gibbard
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Israel, David B. wrote: Richard A Steenbergen wrote on Friday, September 09, 2005 11:57 AM: On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 11:44:05AM -0400, Drew Linsalata wrote: Looks like 26210 is originating the prefixes and Telefonica is happily passing them along to the world, at leas

Re: 12/8 problems?

2005-09-09 Thread John Neiberger
>12.0.0.0/8 >64.0.0.0/8 >65.0.0.0/8 And wouldn't you know it, we have an application that needs to reach servers in 12/8 and 65/8, and someone just came over to me asking for help in figuring out why that application isn't working. I guess I should have checked my NANOG mail before I told them I

RE: 12/8 problems?

2005-09-09 Thread Israel, David B.
Richard A Steenbergen wrote on Friday, September 09, 2005 11:57 AM: >On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 11:44:05AM -0400, Drew Linsalata wrote: >> >> Looks like 26210 is originating the prefixes and Telefonica is happily >> passing them along to the world, at least some portion of which is glad >> to g

Re: 12/8 problems?

2005-09-09 Thread Drew Linsalata
Richard A Steenbergen wrote: $10 says someone forgot "ip classless". Is there a valid argument for making "ip classless" the default in the IOS? Seems to me that it would only solve problems, but I don't profess to be a routing guru, especially in comparison to folks in this forum. -- D

Re: 12/8 problems?

2005-09-09 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 11:44:05AM -0400, Drew Linsalata wrote: > > Looks like 26210 is originating the prefixes and Telefonica is happily > passing them along to the world, at least some portion of which is glad > to go along for the ride. > > Q. How does the Internet work? > A. Spit and glue

Re: 12/8 problems?

2005-09-09 Thread Drew Linsalata
Richard A Steenbergen wrote: Looks like 12956 is announcing some /8s to every peer and transit. Worse still, Sprint and GX are propagating it. This is not the first time that Telefonica has leaked a lot of garbage routes with serious network impact as a result (nor is it the second or third,

Re: 12/8 problems?

2005-09-09 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 11:25:25AM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: > > Looks like 12956 is announcing some /8s to every peer and transit. Worse > still, Sprint and GX are propagating it. This is not the first time that > Telefonica has leaked a lot of garbage routes with serious network imp

Re: 12/8 problems?

2005-09-09 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Fri, 9 Sep 2005, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 11:12:25AM -0400, Drew Linsalata wrote: Apologies for a post of an operational nature, but is anyone else seeing problems with AT&Ts 12/8 block? From a New York router connected to Global Crossing and Peer 1: border-1

Re: 12/8 problems?

2005-09-09 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Sep 09, 2005 at 11:12:25AM -0400, Drew Linsalata wrote: > > Apologies for a post of an operational nature, but is anyone else seeing > problems with AT&Ts 12/8 block? > > From a New York router connected to Global Crossing and Peer 1: > > border-1.nycmny> sh ip bgp 12.xxx.xxx.xxx > >

12/8 problems?

2005-09-09 Thread Drew Linsalata
Apologies for a post of an operational nature, but is anyone else seeing problems with AT&Ts 12/8 block? From a New York router connected to Global Crossing and Peer 1: border-1.nycmny> sh ip bgp 12.xxx.xxx.xxx BGP routing table entry for 12.0.0.0/8, version 86901457 Paths: (2 available, bes

The Cidr Report

2005-09-09 Thread cidr-report
This report has been generated at Fri Sep 9 21:46:59 2005 AEST. The report analyses the BGP Routing Table of an AS4637 (Reach) router and generates a report on aggregation potential within the table. Check http://www.cidr-report.org/as4637 for a current version of this report. Recent Table Hist

Re: OT - Vint Cerf joins Google

2005-09-09 Thread Andre Oppermann
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Sep 8, 2005, at 5:09 PM, Mark Bodley wrote: His name has never "hurt" a companies stock price. Remember MCI--Um, Worldcom. Remembering.. Um lost a ton of money... just remember. First time I have noticed Google do anything so blatant. Time to sell Google? Are