:: > We also like that fact that we can change our
:: > announcements so others can only use prefix X through transit provider Y
:: > and not transit provider Z, unless transit provider Y goes away (those 2
:: > are obviously not the only uses of such policies, but are just examples).
::
::
OneWilshire did lose power but their generators did their
job just fine. Getting up to any data center space there
was impossible on the other hand. They have enough
current to run the entire building, just not the elevators,
the lights in the stairwells, or the key-card locks on the
data center
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 21:21:59 -, "Reeves, Rob" said:
> We've been told by our field tech in LA that One Wilshire had lost power
> for a bit, but it is now restored. I don't know the duration of the
> outage, but our equipment there is on DC and did not go down.
So - who in LA is going to be te
On Sep 12, 2005, at 7:43 PM, Tony Li wrote:
Rather, what is needed is a mechanism that allows congestion control
and
mechanisms to feed into the address selection algorithms, so that when
a
link does become saturated, some traffic (but not all! ;-), shifts to
alternate addresses.
Not disag
Igor Gashinsky wrote:
[snip]
Moving everything to the end-hosts is simply not a good idea imho.
But isn't that what IP is supposed to be about? Smart endpoints, dumb
network (a.k.a. the stupid network)?
--
Crist J. Clark [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Globalstar Communication
:: All in all, site traffic engineering is NOT going to be an easy problem
:: to solve in a hop-by-hop forwarding paradigm based on clever
:: manipulation of L3 locators. Architecturally, what one would really
:: like is to not worry about the traffic engineering problem per-se.
:: Rather, what i
> Or, on top of that, how traffic engineering can be performed with shim6..
>
> -igor
> (firmly in the shim6 does not adress *most* of the issues camp)
Shim6 doesn't do what most end user sites would like to think of as
traffic engineering.
For a multihomed site, traffic engineering is about i
> Whilst this thread is open... perhaps someone can explain to me how
> shim6 is as good as multihoming in the case of redundancy when one of
> the links is down at the time of the initial request, so before any
> shim-layer negotiation happens.
>
> I must be missing something, but there's a goo
Utility Error Blamed for L.A. Blackout
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050912/ap_on_re_us/la_power_outage
-Henry
--- Kevin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> I've been dealing with a data center outage due to
> this,
> and power just came back up a few minutes ago.
>
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 17:41:51 -0400
John Payne <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> On Sep 12, 2005, at 6:58 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
>
> >> I'll be blunt. As long as that question is up in the air, none of
> >> the major content providers are going to do anything serious in the
> >> IPv6
> >> So how do you know it's 4 million and not 4.1?
>
> > Could be 4.1 or even 4.2.
>
> And therein lies the problem.
My point, we don't know so some arbitrary or technology limits will
have to do as there isn't financial reason to make something
bigger
> in any event, 32-bit AS
> numbers al
:: > Well, I have no evidence of them doing anything with IPv6 anyway, so I
:: > don't know if this makes a difference.
::
:: I have a very strong feeling that part of the lack of content providers on
:: IPv6 is due to the lack of multihoming.
::
:: Whilst this thread is open... perhaps someone
On Sat, Sep 10, 2005 at 06:15:38AM -0700, Eric Louie wrote:
>
> FYI, happened again this morning for (at least) 12/8
> duration approx 30 minutes
> starting at 5:45 AM PDT.
Notice that AT&T is no longer taking chances, and is announcing 2 /9s.
--
Richard A Steenbergen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
I've been dealing with a data center outage due to this,
and power just came back up a few minutes ago.
Halon dumps are only fun from the outside.
Kevin Kadow
On Sep 12, 2005, at 6:58 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
I'll be blunt. As long as that question is up in the air, none of
the major content providers are going to do anything serious in the
IPv6 arena.
Well, I have no evidence of them doing anything with IPv6 anyway, so I
don't know if t
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 01:49:13PM -0700, brett watson said at one point in
time:
>
> On Sep 12, 2005, at 1:32 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
>
> >there's also a blurb on yahoo news of an outage
> >http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050912/ap_on_re_us/la_power_outage
>
&
>
> On Sep 12, 2005, at 1:32 PM, Jared Mauch wrote:
>
>
>
> there's also a blurb on yahoo news of an outage
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050912/ap_on_re_us/la_power_outage
>
> AM radio news is reporting a "wrong cable cut" by the de
CNN is reporting that power is starting to be restored to some
areas afected by the outage.
- ferg
--
"Fergie", a.k.a. Paul Ferguson
Engineering Architecture for the Internet
[EMAIL PROTECTED] or [EMAIL PROTECTED]
ferg's tech blog: http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/
n yahoo news of an outage
>
> http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050912/ap_on_re_us/la_power_outage
>
> AM radio news is reporting a "wrong cable cut" by the department of water and
> power folks... they're saying "no ties to terrorism"...
>
>
> -b
On Sep 12, 2005, at 1:32 PM, Jared Mauch wrote: there's also a blurb on yahoo news of an outage http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050912/ap_on_re_us/la_power_outage AM radio news is reporting a "wrong cable cut" by the department of water and power folks... they're saying &
Yep. LA got hit with a power outage that hit downtown and the San Fernando
valley according to reports. Power was restored to USC campus which is about
4 miles from downtown at about 1:30 PDT, for an outage of about half an hour.
Walt
Google News is your friend
Major power outage hits Los Angeles
http://today.reuters.com/investing/financeArticle.aspx?type=bondsNews&storyID=URI:urn:newsml:reuters.com:20050912:MTFH66743_2005-09-12_20-24-41_N12366749:1
I'm seeing a number of customers that appear to have gone
down in the past hour or so, mostly from 19:05-20:25 time frame.
there's also a blurb on yahoo news of an outage
http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20050912/ap_on_re_us/la_power_outage
- jared
On Mon, Sep 12,
Suppose so -
http://tinyurl.com/bpbz5
http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/sns-ap-la-power-outage,0,3767081.story?coll=la-news-alert
matthew zeier wrote:
I'm hearing rumors of a power outage in LA - any truth? I lost access
to my gear up there and the NOC phone is fast busy.
I'm hearing rumors of a power outage in LA - any truth? I lost access to my
gear up there and the NOC phone is fast busy.
--
matthew zeier - "Curiosity is a willing, a proud, an eager confession
of ignorance." - Leonard Rubenstein
> > about for doing DNSSEC in the public, using either a "root" key and/or
> > possibly having master keys pulished in WHOIS?
>
> there is no plan i know of involving master keys published by whois. (that's
> sort of a chicken-or-egg approach, since you'd be using dns to figure out what
> whois
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 13:39:56 EDT, "Rowe, Brent" said:
> clear that I are not interested in learning the makeup of your IT
> infrastructure, the IT policies and procedures your organization
> employs, the number of breaches you have each year, or any other
> sensitive information related to your or
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Dan Mahoney, System Admin") writes:
> In response to a recent question I saw regarding DNSSEC on RIPE domains,
> I'd like to ask if there's any sort of draft or standard that anyone knows
> about for doing DNSSEC in the public, using either a "root" key and/or
> possibly ha
"Department of Homeland Security" Thats a Bush get out of jail card.
If New Orleans was anything to go by, "Department of Homeland
Security" has little credibility or infulence on the world stage,
accept within the U.S propaganda bubble of 24 hour news channels.
On 9/12/05, Rowe, Brent <[EMAIL PR
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 12:26:03 EDT, "Howard, W. Lee" said:
> Maybe I missed an intermediate post or two, but is the assertion
> here that IPv6 is more secure because it's impractical to scan such
> a large number of possible host IP addresses? Sort of like zebra
> camouflage--it's easy to see the h
NANOG members,
I am writing to ask for your participation in a study which I am working
on for the Department of Homeland Security on IT security investment
decisions. My intension is not to upset anyone with an unwanted
solicitation, so if you are uninterested in this topic, please disregard
t
On 9/12/05, william(at)elan.net <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
>
> Let me play Paul Ferguson for a second ... :
> (and I wonder if we'll soon be trading voip minutes on ebay :)
>
> http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=51709287
Link to Fergie's blog ;)
http://fergdawg.blogspot.com/2
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Howard, W. Lee wrote:
Maybe I missed an intermediate post or two, but is the assertion
here that IPv6 is more secure because it's impractical to scan such
a large number of possible host IP addresses? Sort of like zebra
camouflage--it's easy to see the herd, but hard to se
Let me play Paul Ferguson for a second ... :
(and I wonder if we'll soon be trading voip minutes on ebay :)
http://finance.lycos.com/home/news/story.asp?story=51709287
eBay to Acquire Skype
- Sep 12, 2005 06:00 AM (BusinessWire)
LONDON--(BUSINESS WIRE)--Sept. 12, 2005--eBay Inc.
(Na
On Mon Sep 12, 2005 at 05:58:15PM +0300, Joe Abley wrote:
> >Not contesting the quantification, but what typical IXP switches can
> >do stats based on ethertype?
>
> There are a few exchanges who isolate v6 and v4 traffic on separate
> VLANs. Stats based on VLAN are a little easier to come by.
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 05:58:15PM +0300, Joe Abley wrote:
> There are a few exchanges who isolate v6 and v4 traffic on separate
> VLANs. Stats based on VLAN are a little easier to come by.
Yeah, a few. Dying quickly. The most relevant IXPs or the IPv6 world
aren't, they run real dual-AFI in a
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Marcus H. Sachs wrote:
>
> Dan, check out http://www.dnssec-deployment.org/
>
also Sparta has:
http://www.dnssec-tools.org/
and from some other place:
http://www.dnssec.net/ (no idea about quality on this, but it does
mention RIPE including an 'howto dnssec' :) )
Perhaps
On 12-Sep-2005, at 17:11, Daniel Roesen wrote:
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 06:28:22PM +0700, Randy Bush wrote:
those who see full stats at ixes, v4/6 isps, etc will tell you that
actual v6 traffic is miniscule.
Not contesting the quantification, but what typical IXP switches can
do stats based
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005, Randy Bush wrote:
8% seems high to me as well
not by much more than O(10^1) :-). those who see full stats at
ixes, v4/6 isps, etc will tell you that actual v6 traffic is
miniscule.
And I thought you were in Japan ...
--
William Leibzon
Elan Networks
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 15:59:00 +0200
Simon Leinen <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> [CC'ing Stanislav Shalunov, who does the Internet2 weekly reports.]
>
> Marshall Eubanks writes, in response to Jordi's "8% IPv6" anecdote:
> > These estimates seem way high and need support. Here is a counter-example.
> > 8% seems high to me as well, I don't think I've ever seen my v6 traffic
> > over 1% honestly :(
>
> These estimates seem way high and need support. Here is a counter-example.
>
> Netflow on Internet 2 for last week
>
> http://netflow.internet2.edu/weekly/20050829/
>
> has 6.299 Gigabytes
On Mon, Sep 12, 2005 at 06:28:22PM +0700, Randy Bush wrote:
> those who see full stats at ixes, v4/6 isps, etc will tell you that
> actual v6 traffic is miniscule.
Not contesting the quantification, but what typical IXP switches can
do stats based on ethertype? Given that most relevant IPv6 playe
[CC'ing Stanislav Shalunov, who does the Internet2 weekly reports.]
Marshall Eubanks writes, in response to Jordi's "8% IPv6" anecdote:
> These estimates seem way high and need support. Here is a counter-example.
While I'm also skeptical about the representativeness of Jordi's
estimates, this is
Dan, check out http://www.dnssec-deployment.org/
Marc
Marcus H. Sachs, P.E.
SRI International
1100 Wilson Blvd Suite 2800
Arlington VA 22209
www.hsarpacyber.com
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Dan
Mahoney, System Admin
Sent: Monday, S
On 12-sep-2005, at 13:28, Randy Bush wrote:
8% seems high to me as well
not by much more than O(10^1) :-).
Hm, 10^1... so it's 0.8%?
those who see full stats at ixes, v4/6 isps, etc will tell you that
actual v6 traffic is miniscule.
Which is not very surprising. Even if 10% of all cli
On Mon, 12 Sep 2005 05:06:36 + (GMT)
"Christopher L. Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On Sun, 11 Sep 2005, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>
> >
> > I recall last month in our web servers was something like 8% with IPv6
> > (average), but in my opinion most of the IPv6 traffic is peer-to-
> 8% seems high to me as well
not by much more than O(10^1) :-). those who see full stats at
ixes, v4/6 isps, etc will tell you that actual v6 traffic is
miniscule.
randy
On 12-sep-2005, at 4:55, Matthew Petach wrote:
> And no, multiple IP addresses is not good enough.
What requirements do you have that are fundamentally incompatible
with using multiple addresses?
How would a default-free content provider with 1000+ peering sessions
be handled? Would the
On 12-sep-2005, at 2:47, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
In other words: 0wning random appliances isn't all that interesting.
Amazingly enough, the *single* biggest problem in trying to get Joe
Sixpack to secure their systems is "But I don't have anything
they'd be
interested in..."
Security i
On 11-sep-2005, at 20:59, Brandon Butterworth wrote:
So how do you know it's 4 million and not 4.1?
Could be 4.1 or even 4.2.
And therein lies the problem.
I'm assuming those working on 4byte ASs know, if it's more we'll have
to migrate again which would be silly so soon
I don't think
In response to a recent question I saw regarding DNSSEC on RIPE domains,
I'd like to ask if there's any sort of draft or standard that anyone knows
about for doing DNSSEC in the public, using either a "root" key and/or
possibly having master keys pulished in WHOIS?
I see a very experimental
FYI - RIPE seems to be getting ready to deploy DNSSEC on inaddr (rdns)
tree so I thought nanog folks might want to know about it too being the
kind operational issue that we don't seem to be discussing here lately
quite as much...
BTW - are there any plans to deploy DNSSEC for ARIN ip dns tr
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