Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Peter Dambier wrote:
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
uhm, you can run distributed root nameservers in several remote countries,
but you can't afford a 12 USD/11EU .com domain registration fee??? (what
about .name or .info or)
I am not Th
Eric Brunner-Williams in Portland Maine wrote:
wearing my worked-on-p3p-for-years hat, jurisdiction matters.
how this translates into operational issues is:
whois nonsense
sld namespaces
deresolution (upon local rule) process
pricing and non-cash predicate and po
Appears to be.
XO's looking glass for BGP looking is broken (did it break today?),
however, traceroute shows:
1 ge5-3-0d4.RAR2.NYC-NY.us.xo.net (65.106.2.1) 0 msec 4 msec 4 msec
2 * * *
L3's looking glass:
Show Level 3 (San Jose, CA) BGP routes for 207.155.252.78
No matching routes fo
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 22:07:19 +0200, Peter Dambier said:
As more than 80% of all names are registered under '.com' there is no need
for any other domain.
Remember this fact for a moment..
The Public-Root has got 3043 domains. ICANNs root has got only 263.
OK.
Since it hasn't hit nanog yet, I guess I'll go ahead and go ahead and be
the first to point it out.
It seems that Level 3 (3356) and XO (2828) are no longer carrying each
other's routes. :)
And just when I was about to release http://www.e-gerbil.net/ras/failure.jpg :)
--
Richard A Steenberg
Mehmet Akcin wrote:
We , a small group of researchers , have started a Project called Prix [
http://prix.uprr.pr ] which has the intentions of creating a large table for
those who would like to sit down, in other terms an internet exchange point
where all the participants can peer.
Our main go
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005, Peter Dambier wrote:
>
> Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
> >
> > uhm, you can run distributed root nameservers in several remote countries,
> > but you can't afford a 12 USD/11EU .com domain registration fee??? (what
> > about .name or .info or)
> >
>
> I am not The Public-
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Peter Dambier) writes:
> Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
> > I'm confused by the reasoning behind this public-root (alternate root)
> > problem... It seems to me (minus crazy-pills of course) that there is no
> > way for it to work, ever. So why keep trying to push it and break ot
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 22:56:50 EDT, Robert Boyle said:
> I don't think Cisco, Sun, Microsoft, or any other companies do either. When
> I look for a company, I don't care or need to know where they are located
> most of the time - unless I am ordering a pizza, but that is a different
> story...
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Robert Boyle wrote:
At 10:39 PM 9/27/2005, you wrote:
Actually, I think you've got it backwards. .us and all of the other
country-specific TLDs are the last vestiges of nationalism. The
Internet is only the second piece of truly global infrastructure. As
a key component
>
> Is your problem that it takes X months/years to get a new TLD put into the
> normal ICANN Root system? Or is it that you don't like their choice of
> .com and want .common (or some other .com replacement?). There is a
> process defined to handle adding new TLD's, I think it's even documented
wearing my worked-on-p3p-for-years hat, jurisdiction matters.
how this translates into operational issues is:
whois nonsense
sld namespaces
deresolution (upon local rule) process
pricing and non-cash predicate and post-conditions
moronic (or not) primary ge
...for the terrible grammar and incomplete sentences in the message I just
sent. It was the result of replying to a post while performing other tasks
and not taking the time to properly proofread before hitting send.
-Robert
Tellurian Networks - The Ultimate Internet Connection
http://www.t
At 10:39 PM 9/27/2005, you wrote:
Actually, I think you've got it backwards. .us and all of the other
country-specific TLDs are the last vestiges of nationalism. The
Internet is only the second piece of truly global infrastructure. As
a key component in the ongoing trend towards a unified glob
At 05:46 PM 9/27/2005, Peter Dambier wrote:
I have a ".de" domain but I probably will lose it as soon as I move to
france. I cannot get a ".eu" domain because of bureaucratic reasons.
Anyhow I will lose it as soon as I move to Panama. So some 250 domains
are of no use to me.
A significa
.com is an abomination, as are the other gTLDs to a lesser
extent. .gov,
.mil, .edu, .info, and .biz need to be shifted under .us
immediately, and
everyone under .com, .net, and .org needs to be gradually moved
under the
appropriate part of the real DNS tree. I can live with .int
contin
Thus spake "Peter Dambier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> James R. Cutler wrote:
> > I must have missed something here.
> >
> > Are there not individual root domains for each ISO-registered country,
> > not just the US? And, if there are individual root domains for each
> > ISO-registered country, are the
Thus spake "Peter Dambier" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
> > I'm confused by the reasoning behind this public-root (alternate root)
> > problem... It seems to me (minus crazy-pills of course) that there is no
> > way for it to work, ever. So why keep trying to push it and brea
Peter,
OK, now I understand. It is not the DNS hierarchy which is the
problem. Or, even the rDNS oot or the various DNS server sets.
Yours is a personal difference with the assignment process which causes
operational issues for you when you migrate.
Thank you for your clarification. Perhaps y
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005 22:07:19 +0200, Peter Dambier said:
> As more than 80% of all names are registered under '.com' there is no need
> for any other domain.
Remember this fact for a moment..
> The Public-Root has got 3043 domains. ICANNs root has got only 263.
OK. So yours is bigger than mine.
On 9/27/05, Peter Dambier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> or ".org". Right now I dont have the money to bye me a ".com", ".net"
> or ".org" domain. That is why I join with people like me building our
> own root and selling toplevel domains to people who cannot afford
> bying ICANN for monetarian or
David Conrad wrote:
On Sep 27, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/02iso-3166-code-
lists/list-en1-semic.txt
hey look, that's in switzerland! :) So, not US controlled. (tinfoil hat
off)
It is an ISO list, but isn't the IS
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
uhm, you can run distributed root nameservers in several remote countries,
but you can't afford a 12 USD/11EU .com domain registration fee??? (what
about .name or .info or)
I am not The Public-Root. I am only one of the volonteers. :)
--
Peter and Karin Damb
On Sep 27, 2005, at 2:50 PM, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
http://www.iso.org/iso/en/prods-services/iso3166ma/02iso-3166-code-
lists/list-en1-semic.txt
hey look, that's in switzerland! :) So, not US controlled. (tinfoil
hat
off)
It is an ISO list, but isn't the ISO-3166 list still mainta
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Peter Dambier wrote:
> I have a ".de" domain but I probably will lose it as soon as I move to
> france. I cannot get a ".eu" domain because of bureaucratic reasons.
> Anyhow I will lose it as soon as I move to Panama. So some 250 domains
> are of no use to me. Sooner or later
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Jared Mauch wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 09:42:22PM +, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
> >
> >
> >
> > On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, James R. Cutler wrote:
> >
> > > Peter,
> > >
> > > I must have missed something here.
> > >
> > > Are there not individual root domains for each I
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 09:42:22PM +, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
>
>
>
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, James R. Cutler wrote:
>
> > Peter,
> >
> > I must have missed something here.
> >
> > Are there not individual root domains for each ISO-registered
> > country, not just the US? And, if there
Hi James,
James R. Cutler wrote:
Peter,
I must have missed something here.
Are there not individual root domains for each ISO-registered country,
not just the US? And, if there are individual root domains for each
ISO-registered country, are they all controlled by the US?
Please explain
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, James R. Cutler wrote:
> Peter,
>
> I must have missed something here.
>
> Are there not individual root domains for each ISO-registered
> country, not just the US? And, if there are individual root domains
> for each ISO-registered country, are they all controlled by the
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Peter Dambier wrote:
>
> Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
> > I'm confused by the reasoning behind this public-root (alternate root)
> > problem... It seems to me (minus crazy-pills of course) that there is no
> > way for it to work, ever. So why keep trying to push it and break
On 27-Sep-2005, at 16:03, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
There is already an IX called DIX (Denmark) so PRIX should work as
well :)
There's an exchange called the PNIX in Palmerston North, New Zealand,
too.
Mikael Abrahamsson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes:
> On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Randy Bush wrote:
>
>>> Would it be improper to suggest that you pick a different acronym? :-)
>>
>> yes it would be.
>>
>> everything in language A has a strange connotation in some other
>> language B. e.g., my name is gre
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
I'm confused by the reasoning behind this public-root (alternate root)
problem... It seems to me (minus crazy-pills of course) that there is no
way for it to work, ever. So why keep trying to push it and break other
things along the way?
No wonder that some peopl
Peter,
I must have missed something here.
Are there not individual root domains for each ISO-registered country,
not just the US? And, if there are individual root domains for each
ISO-registered country, are they all controlled by the US?
Please explain this in simple words.
Thank you.
Cu
Could you guys change the subject if you want to have flame wars... This
stuff has nothing to do with
"209.68.1.140 (209.68.1.0 /24) blocked by bellsouth.net for SMTP".
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Alan Spicer ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
- Original Message -
From: "Gadi Evron" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Hannigan, Mar
On Tue, 2005-09-27 at 22:07 +0200, Peter Dambier wrote:
> No wonder that some people try a Public-Root that is independent but
> compatible
> to ICANNs root.
Peter,
Thanks for notifying that one of your "Internet Root Zone"
"root-servers" defected to another alternate root without even telling
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
I'm confused by the reasoning behind this public-root (alternate root)
problem... It seems to me (minus crazy-pills of course) that there is no
way for it to work, ever. So why keep trying to push it and break other
things along the way?
Paul Vixie has given very g
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Randy Bush wrote:
Would it be improper to suggest that you pick a different acronym? :-)
yes it would be.
everything in language A has a strange connotation in some other
language B. e.g., my name is great fun in brit-english speaking
land.
There is already an IX c
Actually the list will be in English mostly since we will have international
participants who will be honoring us with their great helps. I think PRIX is a
good name , I mean the name is not really important, we can even name it as
NONAMEIX as long as it's working and helping the community to gro
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 10:55:51AM -0600,
John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
a message of 10 lines which said:
> Would it be improper to suggest that you pick a different acronym? :-)
Mehmet did not say so, but I assume his mailing list will be in
spanish and that PRIX is OK in his lan
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
So, I think I'm off the crazy-pills recently... Why is it again that folks
want to balkanize the Internet like this? Why would you intentionally put
your customer base into this situation? If you are going to do this, why
not just drop random packets to 'bad' desti
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ("Christopher L. Morrow") writes:
> So... Why is it again that folks want to balkanize the Internet like this?
the dreams fulfilled and/or still promised by the internet mostly involve
some kind of disintermediation, increases in freedom or autonomy, that kind
of thing.
in tha
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Steve Gibbard wrote:
>
> So the basic story here is not really "Turkey is using a new DNS root,"
> but rather, "users of alternate root servers notice alternate root
> inconsistency," which is exactly what those opposed to alternate roots
> have been predicting.
>
> There's al
> What do you suggest?
Puertorican Exchange Lan Office :-)
> Would it be improper to suggest that you pick a different acronym? :-)
yes it would be.
everything in language A has a strange connotation in some other
language B. e.g., my name is great fun in brit-english speaking
land.
randy
No, I think we all need the comic relief, I say leave it :)
-SteveOn 9/27/05, John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> We , a small group of researchers , have started a Project called Prix [> http://prix.uprr.pr ] which has the intentions of creating a large table for> those who would like to
go ahead :)
What do you suggest?
Mehmet
Quoting John Neiberger <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
We , a small group of researchers , have started a Project called Prix [
http://prix.uprr.pr ] which has the intentions of creating a large table for
those who would like to sit down, in other terms an inter
> We , a small group of researchers , have started a Project called Prix [
> http://prix.uprr.pr ] which has the intentions of creating a large table for
> those who would like to sit down, in other terms an internet exchange point
> where all the participants can peer.
Would it be improper to su
Hi,
I'd like to speak with people who were / are working in IX points and/or have
knowledge about the infrastructure of IX points.
We , a small group of researchers , have started a Project called Prix [
http://prix.uprr.pr ] which has the intentions of creating a large table for
those who would
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Peter Dambier wrote:
Evren Demirkan wrote:
Ok So what,
I am located in Turkiye..Can Any one simplify the whole stuff in plain
English?
Evren Demirkan
Hi Evren Demirkan,
there has been for about one year a turkish root-server:
l.public-root.com
That server did not
Evren Demirkan wrote:
Ok So what,
I am located in Turkiye..Can Any one simplify the whole stuff in plain
English?
Evren Demirkan
Hi Evren Demirkan,
there has been for about one year a turkish root-server:
l.public-root.com
That server did not resolve the ICANN root but The Public-Root.
I think this is operational...
I beg to differ:
http://www.arin.net/policy/nrpm.html#four3
I have done this for a customer, and they got a /22.
There is also a policy proposal right now that would allow an end user
to get a BGP ASN, get RIR IP space and do it all at once...
http://www.arin.n
On 27/09/05, Peter Dambier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> Here is the birth of a new root-server system:
>
> *.united-root.com
>
Please, put the alternate root crack-pipe down and back slwly away from it
Setting up an alternate root server in turkey and claiming that turkey
has switched root
On Tue, Sep 27, 2005 at 12:45:33PM +0300,
Evren Demirkan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote
a message of 29 lines which said:
> I am located in Turkiye..Can Any one simplify the whole stuff in
> plain English?
There is nothing related with your country in the whole thread. The
subject is misleading.
Ok So what,
I am located in Turkiye..Can Any one simplify the whole stuff in plain
English?
Evren Demirkan
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Roy Arends wrote:
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Peter Dambier wrote:
Here is the birth of a new root-server system:
What does Turkey have to do with this ?
Sensationalistic headlining; one of the IP addresses quoted is located
within Turkey. Worlds different from the implica
>> Here is the birth of a new root-server system:
> What does Turkey have to do with this ?
only turkeys switch root servers.
[ sorry, turkey is american slang for fool ]
On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Peter Dambier wrote:
> Here is the birth of a new root-server system:
What does Turkey have to do with this ?
Roy
Here is the birth of a new root-server system:
*.united-root.com
; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> -t any . @l.public-root.net.
;; global options: printcmd
;; Got answer:
;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 11820
;; flags: qr aa rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 11, AUTHORITY: 0, ADDITIONAL: 0
;;
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