On Sep 28, 2005, at 1:28 AM, Peter Dambier wrote:
http://www.cynikal.net/~baptista/P-R/
Actually, this makes VERY interesting reading... not NANOG fodder, but
I highly recommend anyone considering using public-root reads the
documents there... especially the latest ones, with Joe Baptista
In general I agree with you. The primary exception being that if
national
political interests want to press for local rules about specific
strings
(like XXX) then those national interests belong in their designated
part of
the name space. Polluting the global space with nationally
Tony Li wrote:
Are there national exceptions to international law? Seems to me that
if no exceptions are permitted, then everyone is treated equally.
Yes there are.
E.g. NAZI sites and propaganda are prohibited in germany. They are welcome
in the u.s. That delivers a pseudo excuse for
From: Peter Dambier [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: 'North American Noise and Off-topic Gripes' nanog@merit.edu
*plonk*
I have hardly ever seen someone post so much ... in so short
a time, even though it is a fellow German citizen. In a sad
way it was good reading until this post. Save the root zone
The bad address,
came from replying to this posting:
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On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 09:28:03AM +0200, Peter Dambier wrote:
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E.g. NAZI sites and propaganda are prohibited in germany. They are welcome
in the u.s. That delivers a pseudo excuse for corrupt german politician to
...
Without comment on the rest of this, I feel I must note that to most
Joseph S D Yao wrote:
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 09:28:03AM +0200, Peter Dambier wrote:
...
E.g. NAZI sites and propaganda are prohibited in germany. They are welcome
in the u.s. That delivers a pseudo excuse for corrupt german politician to
...
Without comment on the rest of this, I feel I
I'm hoping someone on the list can help confirm that I'm not going
insane.
I have a customer with the domain 'mtrsd.k12.ma.us' The domain
should be handled by our DNS servers (dns-auth1.crocker.com dns-
auth2.crocker.com)
The customer has an A record for www.mtrsd.k12.ma.us
On 9/29/05, Matthew Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'm hoping someone on the list can help confirm that I'm not going
insane.
How can you be sure it's not the other way around? You're sane and
everyone else is insane? :)
Can someone confirm my sanity? My zone of control starts at
Matthew Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Everything looks like it is configured properly on my servers but the
customer is reporting that certain parents (VerizonDSL, Comcast,
DirectWAY) can connect to certain website and not others. At this
point I think the problem is with the DNS
At 9:33 -0400 9/29/05, Matthew Crocker wrote:
What do you all see for sanderson.mtrsd.k12.ma.us
www.sanderson.mtrsd.k12.ma.us.
For your entertainment, I'm a cox.net customer in No Va...
$ dig +trace sanderson.mtrsd.k12.ma.us ns
; DiG 9.3.1 +trace sanderson.mtrsd.k12.ma.us ns
;; global
whoops...sorry for the extraneous data...
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Edward Lewis+1-571-434-5468
NeuStar
If you knew what I was thinking, you'd understand what I was saying.
Can someone tell me who own this router IP 65.198.220.90?
I am unable to reach destination IPs when I send a source
addr of 70.0.0.0.
I am trying to determine if this 70.0.0.0 addr space is
being blocked.
Ronald W. Jean
Network Engineer
Miller Technologies Group LLC
On 9/29/05, Ronald W. Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can someone tell me who own this router IP 65.198.220.90?
http://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=!%20NET-65-198-220-0-1
Ronald W. Jean
Network Engineer
Hmm.
ARIN's whois to your rescue:
http://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=!%20NET-65-198-220-0-1
OrgName:GEORGIA PUBLIC WEB
OrgID: GPW
Address:1470 RIVER EDGE PARKWAY
City: ATLANTA
StateProv: GA
PostalCode: 30328
Country:US
[...]
Abraços,
Marlon Borba, CISSP.
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Nova
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Aaron Glenn wrote:
On 9/29/05, Ronald W. Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can someone tell me who own this router IP 65.198.220.90?
http://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=!%20NET-65-198-220-0-1
traceroute would also have shown you enlightening things...
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On Thursday 29 September 2005 11:38, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Aaron Glenn wrote:
On 9/29/05, Ronald W. Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can someone tell me who own this router IP 65.198.220.90?
http://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=!%20NET-65-198-220-0-1
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Larry Smith wrote:
On Thursday 29 September 2005 11:38, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Aaron Glenn wrote:
On 9/29/05, Ronald W. Jean [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can someone tell me who own this router IP 65.198.220.90?
I just tested it from a Verizon DSL host and it worked.
You might want to consider reading RFC 2182 though, particularly the
part about geographically diverse nameservers.
Yeah, yeah, that is overrated. If my site goes dark and my DNS goes
down it doesn't really matter as the bandwidth
On Thursday 29 September 2005 11:51, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
How so ???
I lept then looked :) actually it's all kosher. We've just had a rash of
this sort of thing lately. Most likely we just NOTICED the rash, it's
probably been festering for a while.
UUNET Technologies, Inc.
If you are talking about strictly http, then you are probably right. If you
are hosting any email, then this isn't the case. A live DNS but dead mail
server will cause your mail to queue up for a later resend on the
originating mail servers. A dead DNS will cause the mail to bounce as
John Dupuy wrote:
If you are talking about strictly http, then you are probably right.
If you are hosting any email, then this isn't the case. A live DNS but
dead mail server will cause your mail to queue up for a later resend
on the originating mail servers. A dead DNS will cause the mail
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, John Dupuy wrote:
If you are talking about strictly http, then you are probably right. If you
are hosting any email, then this isn't the case. A live DNS but dead mail
server will cause your mail to queue up for a later resend on the originating
mail servers. A dead DNS
Todd Vierling wrote:
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, John Dupuy wrote:
If you are talking about strictly http, then you are probably right. If you
are hosting any email, then this isn't the case. A live DNS but dead mail
server will cause your mail to queue up for a later resend on the originating
mail
so i have junipers, ciscos, and a few gasp zebras in an ospf
and ibgp mesh. they're peering via loopbacks, of course.
unfortunately, i need to recover the space from which the
loopbacks are taken. of course, i would like to do so with
minimal disruption. i am thinking of something like the
I'll defer to you on this. Clearly a failure to resolve is
not the same thing as a NXDOMAIN RCODE.
And yet, personal experience has show that the failure of all a
customer's DNS servers for a domain does cause swifter mail bouncing than
would occur otherwise. I do not know if it was due to the
You might want to consider reading RFC 2182 though, particularly the
part about geographically diverse nameservers.
Yeah, yeah, that is overrated. If my site goes dark and my DNS goes
down it doesn't really matter as the bandwidth and the web server
will also be down.
and folk who
A MTA bouncing mail on temporary DNS failure would be out of spec,
horribly.
luckily no mail servers are out of spec.
randy
Are you using any logging-source or source interface for your
authentication on the boxes? I've found that most versions of IOS
require a reboot to accept a change of these.
Similarly, OSPF under IOS will need a bounce/reboot to change it's
router-ID if you are using the loopback for that.
Personally, the cleanest way I've been able to accomplish changing this
in regard to OSPF, logging and authentication on Cisco's is to suck
down the running config, make the changes in your editor of choice,
push it back up to startup-config and schedule a reboot. iBGP is much
easier to
Matthew Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
I just tested it from a Verizon DSL host and it worked.
You might want to consider reading RFC 2182 though, particularly the
part about geographically diverse nameservers.
Yeah, yeah, that is overrated. If my site goes dark and my DNS goes
this is my fear. which is why i asked. pushing out new
configs (the canonic config is on disk, not the router [0])
and setting a reload of a bunch of routers at time t0 does
not give me warm fuzzies about what the world will be like at
time tn (n 0).
but i may have to take that
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Randy Bush wrote:
You might want to consider reading RFC 2182 though, particularly the
part about geographically diverse nameservers.
Yeah, yeah, that is overrated. If my site goes dark and my DNS goes
down it doesn't really matter as the bandwidth and the web
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Aaron Glenn) wrote:
Can someone tell me who own this router IP 65.198.220.90?
http://ws.arin.net/whois/?queryinput=!%20NET-65-198-220-0-1
Ronald W. Jean
Network Engineer
Hmm.
That somehow sums it up quite good.
El why the webwhois? mar.
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Begehe nur
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Elmar K. Bins) wrote:
That somehow sums it up quite good.
Folks, I'm taking this back, seeing that the original poster is not alone.
Makes me wonder as to what current network engineers do know about the
world they do networking in. I - please forgive me if this seems
So, on vendor C boxes you might be able to get away from having to do
a full reboot to change your OSPF ID by doing a clear ip ospf process.
If you don't do this, even though you change the loopback address,
your router will still keep the old address as the OSPF router ID[1].
You won't
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Randy Bush wrote:
so i have junipers, ciscos, and a few gasp zebras in an ospf
and ibgp mesh. they're peering via loopbacks, of course.
unfortunately, i need to recover the space from which the
loopbacks are taken. of course, i would like to do
Matthew Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Yeah, yeah, that is overrated. If my site goes dark and my DNS goes
down it doesn't really matter as the bandwidth and the web server
will also be down. Having a live DNS server in another part of the
country won't help if the access routers
On Sep 29, 2005, at 12:56 PM, Elmar K. Bins wrote:
[EMAIL PROTECTED] (Elmar K. Bins) wrote:
That somehow sums it up quite good.
Folks, I'm taking this back, seeing that the original poster is not
alone.
Makes me wonder as to what current network engineers do know
about the
world
On Wed, 28 Sep 2005 23:26:59 PDT, Tony Li said:
Are there national exceptions to international law? Seems to me that
if no exceptions are permitted, then everyone is treated equally.
This is discussed in passing in RFC3675. In particular, the third paragraph
paragraph of section 3:
Saudi Arabia, Iran, Northern Nigeria, and China are not likely to
have the same liberal views as, say, the Netherlands or Denmark.
Saudi Arabia and China, like some other nations, extensively filter
their Internet connection and have created government agencies to
protect their society from
On Sep 29, 2005, at 2:08 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
Saudi Arabia, Iran, Northern Nigeria, and China are not likely to
have the same liberal views as, say, the Netherlands or Denmark.
Saudi Arabia and China, like some other nations, extensively filter
their Internet connection and have created
### On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:25:48 -0700, Bruce Pinsky [EMAIL PROTECTED]
### casually decided to expound upon Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] the
### following thoughts about Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks:
BP what [else] am i missing?
BP
BP In addition to what others have said, I'd ask:
BP
BP -
On 9/29/05, Warren Kumari [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I have met Senior Network Engineers who don't understand longest
match rule (The traffic will take 10/8 instead of 10.0.0.0/24
because it has a better admin distance, I can override these 300
OSPF routes with a single static supernet, etc),
I'd start with Sam Halabi's Internet Routing Architectures book.
In a similar note, I Do care about networks and the like but
fail to fully understand the extensive details of how it all
works. I do not proclaim myself to be an engineer and try to
stick with what I do well. I read rfc,
On 9/29/05, Mark Owen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Any suggestions?
Keep reading everything you can get your hands on. When faced with a
question like who owns this router?, don't waste your time signing
up for a mailing list just to make a fool of yourself. Do some
research. Keep reading. And
Any suggestions?
Keep reading everything you can get your hands on. When faced with a
question like who owns this router?, don't waste your time signing
up for a mailing list just to make a fool of yourself. Do some
research. Keep reading. And before you know it, you'll have taught
yourself
I should have made my comment more specific: what is the problem with
single namespace without ccTLDs and without per-country exceptions?
Thank you for asking. Harald Alvestrand and I had just this conversation
during the IETF IDN WG lifetime, about the point where the Chinese (CN,
TW,
On Sep 29, 1:34pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am sure that there are other, much more scary examples out there,
feel free to send me (humorous) examples, I need a laugh today...
My finest Dilbert moment; it's over ten years old now, in fact.
Boss: Per, I need you to write much more
On Thu, Sep 29, 2005 at 02:45:20PM -0700, Aaron is rumored to have said:
When faced with a
question like who owns this router?, don't waste your time signing
up for a mailing list just to make a fool of yourself. Do some
research. Keep reading. And before you know it, you'll have taught
On Sep 29, 10:42pm [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd start with Sam Halabi's Internet Routing Architectures book.
Grumble ... with reference to the issue of routing between connected
networks, your choice might be too advanced.
Douglas Comer's Internetworking With TCP/IP Vol I has been one of the
Randy Bush wrote:
Personally, the cleanest way I've been able to accomplish changing this
in regard to OSPF, logging and authentication on Cisco's is to suck
down the running config, make the changes in your editor of choice,
push it back up to startup-config and schedule a reboot. iBGP is
Life begins with ARP.
Or RARP, depending !
--
matthew zeier - Curiosity is a willing, a proud, an eager confession
of ignorance. - Leonard Rubenstein
In article [EMAIL PROTECTED] you write:
I just tested it from a Verizon DSL host and it worked.
You might want to consider reading RFC 2182 though, particularly the
part about geographically diverse nameservers.
Yeah, yeah, that is overrated. If my site goes dark and my DNS goes
down
On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 12:14:46AM +0100, Ian Dickinson wrote:
Randy Bush wrote:
Personally, the cleanest way I've been able to accomplish changing this
in regard to OSPF, logging and authentication on Cisco's is to suck
down the running config, make the changes in your editor of choice,
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Wayne E. Bouchard wrote:
chopped ian's good infos
Of course, you can always pre-deploy ibgp sessions and TE configs to
the new address (which will remain down until the new address exists),
go for your OOB access to the box, change the loopback IP address (and
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