Hi Geoff,
Sorry, I think replied the wrong email, I was referring to the comment about
the reclaim of unused space, I'm sure was in the last APNIC, but I'm
starting to doubt if you said it or somebody else ...
One more comment on this thread is regarding the usage of private addresses
for managi
I will be happy to show them but what I know here comes only from the paper
that I've indicated a few week ago about the 6to4 relays. I just seen the
same comment from the author on the list ...
Anyway, the last time I attached a couple of small graphics with stats on
web servers, they were filte
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, william(at)elan.net wrote:
> > I think the bigger problem would be that of a larger company running
> > out of RFC 1918 space, for various reasons.
>
> If its corporate system, they'd also end up using NAT (many already do).
> The problem would be for webhosts and ASPs who ha
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
As I know, BT and P2P (some apps), already are using IPv6 ;-)
show flow logs please.
It's not a flow log, but..
"Observations of IPv6 Traffic on a 6to4 Relay" (in ACM SIGCOMM CCR
Internet Vital Signs
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> And in 6-12 months the new Vista will start replacing XP,
Will start replacing XP on new consumer-grade computers. Corporations
will take another 2-4 years to switch, and other people might have
upgraded to windows 98 from 3.11 by then.
I thin
Back in the mid-80s, when some people at Bell Labs were trying to get
the rest of us there onto the DNS bandwagon, there were some people
who didn't like it. Pike and Weinberger put out deep theoretical
papers like The Hideous Name on relative vs. absolute names and the
effects of syntax (availa
Randy Bush wrote:
and don't you just love the suggestions of natting v6?
No, but I would like to see consumer routers support rfc3068 (automatic
6to4 tunneling) by default when there is no native IPv6
access service.
If we could convince manufacturers that rfc3068 is "NAT" for ipv6
they'll pr
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Sean Figgins wrote:
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, william(at)elan.net wrote:
addresses. But of those "few" many are those doing P2P sharing
especially with BitTorent and this application requires open port
on the user end, so in fact P2P and BT may prove to be the cornerstone
to
>> but, if you read my message, the point is that all the major
>> hosted services will not be dual stack. half of them can't even
>> provide well-deployed ipv4 service; try united.com.
>
> That is not entirely the fault of the hosting companies.. Note that
> verio, he.net, towardex, and many
On Oct 12, 2005, at 8:00 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
but, if you read my message, the point is that all the major
hosted services will not be dual stack. half of them can't even
provide well-deployed ipv4 service; try united.com.
That is not entirely the fault of the hosting companies.. Note that
> On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
>> As I know, BT and P2P (some apps), already are using IPv6 ;-)
> show flow logs please.
jordie's a nice guy, but he shows marketing literature only
randy
> I am told that some of the access providers are starting to deploy in
> the US, or at least that's what they tell us. Macs and Linux come
> with v6 enabled, and Longhorn will as well. So with any luck we will
> squeak through this one.
that'll be great for the important applications such
On Thu, 13 Oct 2005, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
As I know, BT and P2P (some apps), already are using IPv6 ;-)
show flow logs please.
And in 6-12 months the new Vista will start replacing XP, with IPv6 enabled
by default. If you observe what is happening with XP and IPv6 NOT enabled by
def
I am told that some of the access providers are starting to deploy in
the US, or at least that's what they tell us. Macs and Linux come
with v6 enabled, and Longhorn will as well. So with any luck we will
squeak through this one.
On Oct 12, 2005, at 12:13 PM, Randy Bush wrote:
four year
On Thu, Oct 13, 2005 at 01:41:26AM +0200, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
> As I know, BT and P2P (some apps), already are using IPv6 ;-)
I know of no official BitTorrent supporting IPv6... unfortunately.
There were patches floating around, but to my understanding
incompatible, and problems with BT s
As I know, BT and P2P (some apps), already are using IPv6 ;-)
And in 6-12 months the new Vista will start replacing XP, with IPv6 enabled
by default. If you observe what is happening with XP and IPv6 NOT enabled by
default, you may guess what will happen and how many apps. developers will
take it
I don't think so ... I recall Geoff Huston in the last APNIC indicated that
this kind of actions are only going to provide a few additional time.
I think the BoF should be more in the direction of "why not doing already
IPv6 (from the perspective of the ISPs) ?".
Delaying the inevitable don't se
Erik Sundberg wrote:
Any reason why the whois.register.com would say "You have exceeded your
maximum number of queries.". Tried it from 3 differnet boxes that have 3
differnent public ip address. Tried the web gui too and I get the same
lookup error. This looks specific to whois.register.com.
Noop,
Still broke if i specify the whois.register.com as the host.
Thanks
Erik
[EMAIL PROTECTED] ~]#whois -h whois.register.com taylormaderealtor.com
[Querying whois.register.com]
[whois.register.com]
The data in Register.com's WHOIS database is provided to you by
Register.com for informa
Any reason why the whois.register.com would say "You have exceeded your
maximum number of queries.". Tried it from 3 differnet boxes that have 3
differnent public ip address. Tried the web gui too and I get the same
lookup error. This looks specific to whois.register.com.
Is anyone else seeing t
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, william(at)elan.net wrote:
> addresses. But of those "few" many are those doing P2P sharing
> especially with BitTorent and this application requires open port
> on the user end, so in fact P2P and BT may prove to be the cornerstone
> to getting wider use of IPv6 after we ran
* Daniel Roesen:
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 11:13:12AM -1000, Randy Bush wrote:
>> also to be noted is that rir statistics on who has what space are
>> not in the best of shape, ripe's being particularly obfuscated.
>
> *raising an eyebrow*
>
> Would you care to elaborate on that?
AFAIK, the stat
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005 23:16:03 +0200, Daniel Roesen said:
> On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 11:13:12AM -1000, Randy Bush wrote:
> > also to be noted is that rir statistics on who has what space are
> > not in the best of shape, ripe's being particularly obfuscated.
>
> *raising an eyebrow*
>
> Would you ca
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 11:13:12AM -1000, Randy Bush wrote:
> also to be noted is that rir statistics on who has what space are
> not in the best of shape, ripe's being particularly obfuscated.
*raising an eyebrow*
Would you care to elaborate on that?
Best regards,
Daniel
--
CLUE-RIPE -- Jab
> by saying this i don't intend to disagree with the general premise:
> there are tons of genuinely unused prefixes out there. the point is
> just that i doubt that there is an automated way to determine exactly
> which ones they are.
depends on what you mean by automated. geoff's point, among
ras, all
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 04:38:53PM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote:
> of its legacy unused /8 allocations. I'm certain that someone with some
> historical BGP data could put together an analysis of who has not used
> their IP allocations at ALL within the last few years, still mor
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 03:20:31PM -0400, Daniel Golding wrote:
>
> On 10/12/05 3:13 PM, "Randy Bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> >
> > geoff's predictions for a very lively market in v4 space will
> > seriously come into play.
>
> Maybe its time to have a serious talk about IPv4 commodity
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Daniel Golding wrote:
On 10/12/05 3:13 PM, "Randy Bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
geoff's predictions for a very lively market in v4 space will
seriously come into play.
Maybe its time to have a serious talk about IPv4 commodity trading schemes.
Anyone interested in th
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Randy Bush wrote:
if you look at the recent ipv4 burn rate of ripe and apnic
especially, we run out of v4 space in about three years. this
should not be surprising, as it matches what frank was saying
a decade ago at ale.
so having dual stack backbones is very important.
On 10/12/05 3:13 PM, "Randy Bush" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> geoff's predictions for a very lively market in v4 space will
> seriously come into play.
Maybe its time to have a serious talk about IPv4 commodity trading schemes.
Anyone interested in this enough to have a BOF at ARIN/NANOG?
T
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 10:00:23PM +0300, Pekka Savola wrote:
>
> On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote:
> >On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 10:33:42AM -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
> >>Global Crossing says it has deployed native IPv6. Also, TeliaSonera
> >>has picked Lucent to help it prepare
good news. but
if you look at the recent ipv4 burn rate of ripe and apnic
especially, we run out of v4 space in about three years. this
should not be surprising, as it matches what frank was saying
a decade ago at ale.
so having dual stack backbones is very important. but ...
four years
On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote:
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 10:33:42AM -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
Global Crossing says it has deployed native IPv6. Also, TeliaSonera
has picked Lucent to help it prepare for IPv6 service.
http://www.techweb.com/wire/172300284
The full GC PR i
Hi all,
Take the opportunity to make a non commercial add ;-)
Every day there are more and more news related to IPv6. I compile all them
at http://www.ipv6tf.org.
I also emails every Monday a summary, not sure if it will be good to send it
also to this list ?
Alternatively, you can register at
On Wed, Oct 12, 2005 at 10:33:42AM -0400, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
> Global Crossing says it has deployed native IPv6. Also, TeliaSonera
> has picked Lucent to help it prepare for IPv6 service.
>
> http://www.techweb.com/wire/172300284
The full GC PR is at;
http://www.globalcrossing.
Global Crossing says it has deployed native IPv6. Also, TeliaSonera
has picked Lucent to help it prepare for IPv6 service.
http://www.techweb.com/wire/172300284
--Steven M. Bellovin, http://www.cs.columbia.edu/~smb
On 10/12/05, Mohacsi Janos <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> On Wed, 12 Oct 2005, danazster wrote:
> > I keep hearing that VPLS is a Good Thing.
>
> It would be if it would be supported and would be compatible.
> - There are different vendor implementations: LDP oriented or BGP
> oriented. And there is
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