Re: What is multihoming was (design of a real routing v. endpoint id seperation)

2005-10-25 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Owen DeLong wrote: Yes... The network is still multihomed, but, instead of using routing to handle the source/dest addr. selection, it is managed at each end host independent of the routers. The routers function sort of like the network is single homed. It's very

Re: What is multihoming was (design of a real routing v. endpoint id seperation)

2005-10-25 Thread Pekka Savola
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A single tier-2 ISP who uses BGP multihoming with several tier 1 ISPs can provide multihoming to it's customers without BGP. For instance, if this tier-2 has two PoPs in a city and peering links exist at both PoPs and they sell a resilient access

Re: ICANN and Verisign settle over SiteFinder

2005-10-25 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Florian Weimer wrote: http://www.businessweek.com/ap/financialnews/D8DEL2TO7.htm? campaign_id=apn_tech_downchan=tc I don't understand what VeriSign receives in return for their kowtow (under the agreement, they basically waive any right to criticize ICANN's role).

Re: What is multihoming was (design of a real routing v. endpoint id seperation)

2005-10-25 Thread Robert Bonomi
From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 24 15:33:02 2005 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:31:17 -0700 Subject: Re: What is multihoming was (design of a real routing v. endpoint id seperation) Stephen Sprunk wrote: [snip] Other people use this term in very different ways. To some people it means

Re: What is multihoming was (design of a real routing v. endpoint id seperation)

2005-10-25 Thread Joe Abley
On 25-Oct-2005, at 05:56, Robert Bonomi wrote: *sigh* Multi-homing simply means [...] As became clear when we wrote the draft that became RFC 3582, apparently simple terms such as transit provider and multi-homing mean surprisingly different things to different people. The important

Re: ICANN and Verisign settle over SiteFinder

2005-10-25 Thread Florian Weimer
* william elan net: They get to continue to be .COM registry forever as new agreement would extend to 2012 and then automatically extended further without formal process as it happened recently for .NET. They also are going to be able to increase registry fees for .COM by 7% per year which

Re: Scalability issues in the Internet routing system

2005-10-25 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Blaine Christian wrote: As of the last time that I looked at it (admittedly quite awhile ago), something like 80% of the forwarding table had at least one hit per minute. This may well have changed given the number of traffic engineering prefixes that are

Re: Scalability issues in the Internet routing system

2005-10-25 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:28:05 -, Christopher L. Morrow said: On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Blaine Christian wrote: Yea, but that's just me pinging everything and google and yahoo fighting over who has the most complete list of x rated sites. and this probably depends greatly on the network,

IRR Coordination mailing list

2005-10-25 Thread Larry Blunk
This IRR Coordination mailing list was mentioned this morning during the BGP Filtering talk.We'd like to invite anyone interested in improving the trust, consistency, and coordination of IRR's to join. The archive and subscription details can be found at

Re: Scalability issues in the Internet routing system

2005-10-25 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 25 Oct 2005 16:28:05 -, Christopher L. Morrow said: On Mon, 24 Oct 2005, Blaine Christian wrote: Yea, but that's just me pinging everything and google and yahoo fighting over who has the most complete list of x rated sites.

Re: What is multihoming was (design of a real routing v. endpoint id seperation)

2005-10-25 Thread Crist Clark
Robert Bonomi wrote: From [EMAIL PROTECTED] Mon Oct 24 15:33:02 2005 Date: Mon, 24 Oct 2005 13:31:17 -0700 Subject: Re: What is multihoming was (design of a real routing v. endpoint id seperation) Stephen Sprunk wrote: [snip] Other people use this term in very different ways. To some

Re: ICANN and Verisign settle over SiteFinder

2005-10-25 Thread Todd Vierling
On Tue, 25 Oct 2005, Florian Weimer wrote: Two possible explanations: 2+2=5, right? :) Oops. 8-) tongue location=cheek No, you got it right. The [third] option at the end, play nice, has only a passing association to the realm of possibility. /tongue -- -- Todd Vierling [EMAIL

Re: ICANN and Verisign settle over SiteFinder

2005-10-25 Thread John Levine
I don't understand what VeriSign receives in return for their kowtow (under the agreement, they basically waive any right to criticize ICANN's role). As someone else noted, a perpetual cash cow in .COM with 7%/year escalator clause. * ICANN signalled a positive outcome of a future Sitefinder

fleet.navy.mil DNS / network ops contact please

2005-10-25 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
Could a dns ops contact for any of these hosts please email me offlist to help troubleshoot a network reachablity / dns lookup issue from our servers. thanks -srs ccsg3.navy.mil. 30M IN NS ns2.fleet.navy.mil. ccsg3.navy.mil. 30M IN NS dnsmail.uar.navy.mil.

Re: Scalability issues in the Internet routing system

2005-10-25 Thread Rubens Kuhl Jr.
Assume you have determined that a percentage (20%, 80%, whatever) of the routing table is really used for a fixed time period. If you design a forwarding system that can do some packets per second for those most used routes, all you need to DDoS it is a zombie network that would send packets to

Re: Scalability issues in the Internet routing system

2005-10-25 Thread Alexei Roudnev
Vice versa. DDOS attack will never work by this way, because this router will (de facto) prioritize long established streams vs. new and random ones, so it will not notice DDOS attack at all - just some DDOS packets will be delayed or lost. You do not need to forward 100% packets on line card