Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies

2005-11-25 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 24 Nov 2005 20:26:56 +0100, Florian Weimer said: > Wouldn't this provide significant economic incentive towards gaining a > high value on this metric? I'm not sure if this a good idea because > even if you call it a "trust metric", it does not have to correspond > to ethical behavior. Wr

Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies (was: Re: Wifi Security)

2005-11-25 Thread Kurt Erik Lindqvist
On 25 nov 2005, at 02.07, Sean Donelan wrote: Although techincal folks may think its just about math, unfortunately some people think certificates and signatures mean more than just mathmatical formulas. I'm a bit confused why people think network service providers will be willing to "ce

RE: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies

2005-11-25 Thread Matthew Kaufman
Michael Dillon: > Do you suppose that if a Microsoft salesman had given me a > free copy of Windows back in 1990, I would have a right to > use any version of Windows for free forever? Any version? No. That version, particularly its fixed representation as an unchanged string of binary digits?

Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies

2005-11-25 Thread Sandy Murphy
> Do you suppose that if a Microsoft salesman had given me a free copy > of Windows back in 1990, I would have a right to use any version of > Windows for free forever? I don't think this analogy exactly fits. I'm pretty sure that the legacy space holders think of this as: a Microsoft salesman h

Weekly Routing Table Report

2005-11-25 Thread Routing Table Analysis
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Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies (was: Re: Wifi Security)

2005-11-25 Thread Kurt Erik Lindqvist
On 24 nov 2005, at 03.54, George Michaelson wrote: If you want to see member-certificates which gate access to RIR/NIR specific services common across all registries, I think you want to get that onto an RIR meeting agenda Randy. We currently have no cross-certification activity in member

Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies

2005-11-25 Thread Florian Weimer
* Michael Dillon: >> > How would you feel about having the registries serve as the root of >> > a hierarchical certificate system? >> >> What about the swamp space? > > Presumably if the users of class C blocks in the swamp The class B assignments are even more interesting because some of them

Re: BGP Security and PKI Hierarchies

2005-11-25 Thread Michael . Dillon
> > How would you feel about having the registries serve as the root of > > a hierarchical certificate system? > > What about the swamp space? Presumably if the users of class C blocks in the swamp want to use the certficate services that the registry provides then the registries would sell that