On 3/7/06, Owen DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Singapore seems to force all of their ISPs to send all HTTP requests
through a proxy that has a set of rules defining sites you are not allowed
to visit.
As does (for example) the UAE, and China. But not Italy.
So this is quite moot, I
Hi Folks across the ocean..
I understand, that from an American point of view this kind of restriction
looks strange and is against your act of freedom, however here in Europe
gambling is a state controlled business that supports the state economy and
in most European countries gambling outside
actually, they -can- order it... its the delivery thats
the hard part. :) on-line gaming is handled pretty much
the same way - the tax authorities really want to know
where that loot came from ... or went to !!! :)
--bill
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 09:13:21AM
On 7-mrt-2006, at 9:13, tom wrote:
Hi Folks across the ocean..
I understand, that from an American point of view this kind of
restriction
looks strange and is against your act of freedom, however here in
Europe
gambling is a state controlled business
It looks strange from the right
On Tuesday 07 Mar 2006 08:13, you wrote:
I understand, that from an American point of view this kind of restriction
looks strange and is against your act of freedom, however here in Europe
gambling is a state controlled business that supports the state economy and
in most European countries
--On March 7, 2006 1:35:05 PM +0530 Suresh Ramasubramanian
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 3/7/06, Owen DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Singapore seems to force all of their ISPs to send all HTTP requests
through a proxy that has a set of rules defining sites you are not
allowed to visit.
--On March 7, 2006 9:13:21 AM +0100 tom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Folks across the ocean..
I understand, that from an American point of view this kind of restriction
looks strange and is against your act of freedom, however here in Europe
gambling is a state controlled business that
Marco d'Itri wrote:
On Mar 06, Rodney Joffe [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It appears that Italy has ordered Italian ISPs to block access to a
number of Internet Gambling sites. It would be interesting to see how
the Italian ISPs are handling this, what with dynamic DNS and all
that...
So
On Mar 7, 2006, at 12:13 AM, tom wrote:
I hope you don't mind this commentary from a European...
I certainly don't mind commentary from a European. I just wouldn't
want to hear the same European complaining about the Chinese...
:-)
Hi folks
just one addition..as it was already mentioned where the money is from and
where it goes
thats money-washing
and again, this is a criminal act in lots of countries..
do not missunderstand me..
I do not mind gambling and if people wanna do it, let them..
but if their goverment wants to
On 6 Mar 2006, at 15:06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mon, Mar 06, 2006 at 09:49:39AM -0500, Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
On Mon, 06 Mar 2006 21:17:17 +1100
Matthew Sullivan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(In the
UK where I served my apprenticeship, we were required to provide
earth
bonding to
On Mar 7, 2006, at 3:56 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
I understand, that from an American point of view this kind of
restriction
looks strange and is against your act of freedom, however here in
Europe
gambling is a state controlled business that supports the state
economy
and in most European
--On March 7, 2006 8:12:59 AM -0500 Patrick W. Gilmore
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Mar 7, 2006, at 3:56 AM, Owen DeLong wrote:
I understand, that from an American point of view this kind of
restriction
looks strange and is against your act of freedom, however here in
Europe
gambling is a
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006, Owen DeLong wrote:
Singapore seems to force all of their ISPs to send all HTTP requests
through a proxy that has a set of rules defining sites you are not allowed
to visit.
or comply in the other manner which is to null route the top 100 sites...
but yes.
On 6-mrt-2006, at 22:08, Owen DeLong wrote:
What I hear is any type of geography can't work because network
topology != geography. That's like saying cars can't work
because they
can't drive over water which covers 70% of the earth's surface.
No, it's more like saying Cars which can't
On Tue, Mar 07, 2006 at 09:13:21AM +0100, tom wrote:
Hi Folks across the ocean..
I understand, that from an American point of view this kind of restriction
looks strange and is against your act of freedom, however here in Europe
gambling is a state controlled business that supports the
Switzerland has made similar requests and ISPs in .CH have
deployed acl to block the sites and remove them from DNS.
Neil.
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On
Behalf Of Rodney Joffe
Sent: 06 March 2006 19:41
To: NANOG
Subject: Italy orders
Hello colleages,
I'm trying to find out how one can measure the performance or quality of a
network for gamers and voip-users.
Both applications are very sensitive to packetloss, delays or jitter since
they're using udp instead of tcp and are very timing critical.
== Which tools (under linux)
Neil J. McRae wrote:
Switzerland has made similar requests and ISPs in .CH have
deployed acl to block the sites and remove them from DNS.
It was just one single investigation judge who requested this as
a temporary restraint order in a libel case because they couldn't
shut down the server or
The problem with UDP is that there is no explicit feedback-loop
or congestion control frobs -- this is generally kicked up the
protocol stack for the application itself to figure out.
UDP is designed that way: push traffic into the network as fast
as the network can take it, and expect the
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Neil J. McRae wrote:
Switzerland has made similar requests and ISPs in .CH have
deployed acl to block the sites and remove them from DNS.
So long as there no criminal penalties associated with the half-assed
solutions I suppose it doesn't really matter. Gov'ts will see
Well, I can't blame Italy for trying to enforce their laws, but maybe
can give them a better idea.
Maybe instead of all those ACLs, other type of Blocks, DNS
removals,etc.. Governments should more go to the direction of making
agreement on the credit card companies which automatically will
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Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Im
Auftrag von Fergie
Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. März 2006 18:16
An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: UDP Badness [Was: Re: How to measure network
qualityperformance for voipgameservers
On 07/03/06, Gunther Stammwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftrag von Fergie Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. März 2006 18:16 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Betreff: UDP Badness [Was: Re: How to measure
On Tue, 07 Mar 2006 13:53:40 +
Mehmet Akcin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well, I can't blame Italy for trying to enforce their laws, but maybe
can give them a better idea.
Maybe instead of all those ACLs, other type of Blocks, DNS
removals,etc.. Governments should more go to the
At 1:08 PM -0800 3/6/06, Owen DeLong wrote:
I've got no opposition to issuing addresses based on some geotop. design,
simply because on the off chance it does provide useful aggregation, why
not. OTOH, I haven't seen anyone propose geotop allocation as a policy
in the ARIN region (hint to those
JC Date: Tue, 7 Mar 2006 13:38:50 -0500
JC From: John Curran
JC Does anyone have statistics for the present prefix mobility experiment
JC in the US with phone number portability? It would be interesting to
JC know what percent of personal and business numbers are now routed
JC permanently
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Justin Church wrote:
Vince Hoffman wrote:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Gunther Stammwitz wrote:
Hello colleages,
I'm trying to find out how one can measure the performance or quality of a
network for gamers and voip-users.
Both applications are very sensitive to
On Mon, 6 Mar 2006 11:24:59 +0100, Kurt Erik Lindqvist
[EMAIL PROTECTED] said:
[snip]
Ok, so shim6 doesn't require a change to the transport layer and it
doesn't change the forwarding plane. It does create a mapping state
at the end-nodes. So claiming it to be either is probably wrong.
On 07/03/06, Gunther Stammwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Im Auftragvon tony sarendal Gesendet: Dienstag, 7. März 2006 19:05 An: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Betreff: Re: UDP Badness [Was: Re: How to measure
Unfortunately not. Iperf has suited me fine where I don't require
professional (pricey) testers.
The fact that it is console based I usually see as a plus.
--
Tony Sarendal - [EMAIL PROTECTED]
IP/Unix
-= The scorpion replied,
On 07/03/06, Gunther Stammwitz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Well that's true but Iperf won't show you at which time a loss occured. Itwill simply print out the results when the test has been finished. I need
something well more accurate that can also tell me which hop is causing theproblems.
Last I
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
Hm, I would rather do this globally but maybe this is the way to go...
Geo-aggregation is something that stands its best chance of being
implemented locally:
- the 'players' involved will be fewer
- requirements for a workable policy will be
On the public botnets mailing list, there have been quite a few off
topic reports of Malicious Websites. Sites holding malware, malicious
code, drive-by installs, phishing sites, etc. The botnets list is of
high traffic while it is busy figuring itself out.
We expected this might happen,
Paul Jakma wrote:
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote:
Hm, I would rather do this globally but maybe this is the way to go...
Geo-aggregation is something that stands its best chance of being
implemented locally:
While I agree that any aggregation would happen locally, the
On Tue, 7 Mar 2006, Tony Hain wrote:
While I agree that any aggregation would happen locally, the
overall allocation policy for a consistent geo approach needs to be
done globally.
Ideally, yes. Failling that, it's still possible for it to be done
unilaterally at a regional level, there
On Wed, 8 Mar 2006, Martin Hannigan wrote:
I am looking for user experiences for people who have
purchased
transit from cogent in the 300Mbps or up range as far as performance,
stability, and any other measurable metric of quality you can come up
with.
We have heard a
--On March 7, 2006 1:38:50 PM -0500 John Curran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At 1:08 PM -0800 3/6/06, Owen DeLong wrote:
I've got no opposition to issuing addresses based on some geotop. design,
simply because on the off chance it does provide useful aggregation, why
not. OTOH, I haven't seen
:- Mehmet == Mehmet Akcin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
Well, I can't blame Italy for trying to enforce their laws, but maybe
can give them a better idea.
no no, please blame :)
Maybe instead of all those ACLs, other type of Blocks, DNS
removals,etc.. Governments should more go
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