On 6/14/06, Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Since power consumption was a topic at the last NANOG meeting.
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Surge in Internet Use, Energy Costs
Has Bi
Once upon a time, chuck goolsbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> * They lacked sufficient clue to grok name-based virtual hosting.
Name-based virtual hosting is not a cure-all. Think about SSL and
anonymous FTP uploads for starters.
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Systems and Network Administra
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Scott Weeks wrote:
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> - Original Message Follows -
> From: Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Peter Dambier wrote:
> > > Paul Vixie wrote:
> > > > "The effect of Nanog is remarkable. All the hybrid
> > > > cells became fully converted to embry
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From: Gadi Evron <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Peter Dambier wrote:
> > Paul Vixie wrote:
> > > "The effect of Nanog is remarkable. All the hybrid
> > > cells became fully converted to embryonic stem cells,"
> > > said Jose Silva of the University
At 2:35 PM -0400 6/15/06, Matt Buford wrote:
But how could this possibly be IP abuse or evil (except perhaps in
the eyes of the search engines)? What difference does it make to
ARIN if I give a customer 30 IPs from a single /24 or 30 IPs from 30
different /24s?
How is that customer using th
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Peter Dambier wrote:
> Paul Vixie wrote:
> > "The effect of Nanog is remarkable. All the hybrid cells became fully
> > converted to embryonic stem cells," said Jose Silva of the University of
> > Edinburgh, Scotland, who reported the findings in the journal Nature.
> >
> > ht
On 6/14/06, Florian Weimer <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
There are universal subscriber gateways
that simply override all network configuration on the host, but they
aren't marketed at datacenters AFAIK. After all, who would think that
a datacenter needs a network security policy similar to that o
Marshall Eubanks wrote:
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> When the inevitable T-shirt is made with this on it, I want a copy.
There's more ! At the risk of following the bad precedent set by my new
employer for the on-topicness of postings here :-)
...having a geneticist in the house clued me into this one some time
ago. Ap
> At 7:03 PM -0400 6/14/06, Matt Buford wrote:
> >There is also strong demand among web hosting customers to scatter
> >sites across multiple /24's due to search engine optimization.
>
> I hear this line of thinking often, but to me it sounds like
> bulls^X^X^X^X^X... um, "folklore". When our
When the inevitable T-shirt is made with this on it, I want a copy.
On Jun 14, 2006, at 6:14 PM, Paul Vixie wrote:
"The effect of Nanog is remarkable. All the hybrid cells became fully
converted to embryonic stem cells," said Jose Silva of the
University of
Edinburgh, Scotland, who reporte
Paul Vixie wrote:
"The effect of Nanog is remarkable. All the hybrid cells became fully
converted to embryonic stem cells," said Jose Silva of the University of
Edinburgh, Scotland, who reported the findings in the journal Nature.
http://news.com.com/Gene+may+mean+adult+cells+can+be+reprogramme
"chuck goolsbee" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Anyway, if somebody could enlighten me to definitive proof, or stated
policy by Goo... er "search engines", that confirms this "search engine
result optimization by blatant abuse of IP addresses" I'd appreciate it. I
for one believe it is bunk dreamt
At 7:03 PM -0400 6/14/06, Matt Buford wrote:
There is also strong demand among web hosting customers to scatter
sites across multiple /24's due to search engine optimization.
I hear this line of thinking often, but to me it sounds like
bulls^X^X^X^X^X... um, "folklore". When our customers/sal
Has anyone considered using sFlow to detect this type of bad behavior? Many
layer 2 switches vendors mentioned in the discussion support sFlow (see
http://www.sflow.org/products/network.php for a list).
sFlow operates at layer 2 (think of it as a kind of remote sampled mirror
port capability that
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, william(at)elan.net wrote:
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> On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
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> > On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Will Hargrave wrote:
> >>
> >> Joe Abley wrote:
> >>> I think you're mistaken about the server being off-line, since I can see
> >>> it just fine from many places. The
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Will Hargrave wrote:
Joe Abley wrote:
I think you're mistaken about the server being off-line, since I can see
it just fine from many places. The RIPE NCC dnsmon tool can also see it
from its various probes:
I did (and
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Will Hargrave wrote:
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> Joe Abley wrote:
> > I think you're mistaken about the server being off-line, since I can see
> > it just fine from many places. The RIPE NCC dnsmon tool can also see it
> > from its various probes:
> I did (and do) check on multiple ASs that I run and
Joe Abley wrote:
I think you're mistaken about the server being off-line, since I can see
it just fine from many places. The RIPE NCC dnsmon tool can also see it
from its various probes:
http://dnsmon.ripe.net/dns-servmon/server/?server=h.gtld-servers.net&show=SHOW
That's old data. This is a
At 11:11 +0100 6/15/06, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
"certificates", and so on. This is fine for a
technical audience but it won't help explain the
issue to the decision makers who spend the money.
We should be clear on who the decision makers are. I've spent a long
time trying to trick folks w
On 15-Jun-2006, at 09:41, Will Hargrave wrote:
Unless I am mistaken, h.gtld-servers.net is offline and has been
for an hour or two. I can't see the containing prefix,
192.54.112.0/24.
I think you're mistaken about the server being off-line, since I can
see it just fine from many places.
Unless I am mistaken, h.gtld-servers.net is offline and has been for an hour or
two. I can't see the containing prefix, 192.54.112.0/24.
http://www.ris.ripe.net/perl-risapp/prefixinuse.do?rrc_id=1000&Submit=Submit&.submit=type&sortby=time&outype=html&preftype=ematch&interval=1&prefix=192.54.1
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
> advice when they first started to attempt to migrate), or supporting
> super/sub-VLANs in an operational environment. Customers hated both,
> but at least they saw better performance once the hosting network was
> broken up per-customer VLANs.
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Kristal, Jeremiah wrote:
advice when they first started to attempt to migrate), or supporting
super/sub-VLANs in an operational environment. Customers hated both,
but at least they saw better performance once the hosting network was
broken up per-customer VLANs.
Why woul
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
Some ciscos can do this as well (recent IOS). IP unnumbered and static
routes towards vlan interfaces means you can put customers in their own
vlan and still have them be part of a larger IP subnet spanning several
vlans.
Since it was Extreme th
On Wed, 14 Jun 2006 11:59:51 -0700
Warren Kumari <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On Jun 14, 2006, at 2:18 AM, John van Oppen wrote:
> >
> > That being said, I know at least one of our transit customers does
> > hosting exactly how you are describing. Coincidentally, this
> > customer is
On Thu, 15 Jun 2006, Chris Hills wrote:
Unless I am missing something obvious, it seems like rfc 3069 (sub/super
vlans) provides an easy (interim?) solution to this dilemma.
Some ciscos can do this as well (recent IOS). IP unnumbered and static
routes towards vlan interfaces means you can pu
On Mon, 2006-04-10 at 12:07 -0400, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ wrote:
Hello,
> Some information
> is available at http://www.ipv6tf.org/guide/organizations/services/isp.php
Can you add NDSoftware in the list ?
Thank you
Best Regards,
--
Nicolas DEFFAYET
NDSoftware
http://www.ndsoftware.com/
> but it ain't the crypto. never has been. and it is not always
> easy to explain math in plain english. so let's focus on where
> work needs to be done.
You and I are in violent agreement. The problem is
in understanding whether or not the crypto under the
hood really does provide a TRUSTABLE
Bill Nash wrote:
> Trying to migrate customers to their own vlan when they've been alloted
> IPs, willy nilly, across one of the bajillion /24's secondaried on the
> vlan interface drives me into an entire new dimension of pissed off.
Unless I am missing something obvious, it seems like rfc 3069
* A spamware daemon is installed on the dedicated server, to keep
the network interface in promiscuous mode
* The daemon determines which IP addresses on the local subnet are
not in use. It also determines the addresses of the network routers.
One or more unused IP addresses are comman
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