Re: anycasting behind different ASNs?

2006-12-06 Thread Steve Gibbard
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, Deepak Jain wrote: An easy way around this is to be consistent about your transit and peering arrangements across locations. If your anycast network has transit from a network in one location, get transit from them in your other locations, and let hot potato routing do

Re: anycasting behind different ASNs?

2006-12-06 Thread Deepak Jain
An easy way around this is to be consistent about your transit and peering arrangements across locations. If your anycast network has transit from a network in one location, get transit from them in your other locations, and let hot potato routing do its thing. For cases where this isn't p

Re: anycasting behind different ASNs?

2006-12-06 Thread Joe Provo
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 09:38:10AM -0800, matthew zeier wrote: > Are there any practical issues with announcing the same route behind > different ASNs? [snip] In addition to all the sound advice already provided, I would add that if you decide to do something unusual, make sure the documentation

Re: anycasting behind different ASNs?

2006-12-06 Thread matthew zeier
> This is a common confusion by many low/mid-level engineers and sales engineers who claim their network having lower AS number somehow makes them more trafficked and preferred AS :) Reminds of me Genuity's old website that, in declared Autonomous System 1.

RE: anycasting behind different ASNs?

2006-12-06 Thread James Jun
> My real question was whether anyone actually cared about inconsistent AS > paths and did something (drop traffic) because of it. Appears that it's > not much of an issue. Not any significantly sized AS at least.. IMO, filtering inconsistent AS would be more "too much time on hands" and hectic

Re: anycasting behind different ASNs?

2006-12-06 Thread matthew zeier
william(at)elan.net wrote: What is the problem you're trying to solve that you think inconsistent origin AS announcements of the same network would solve which announcements (from same locations) with same AS would not solve? Mostly to avoid GRE tunnels and the added "complexity" therein.

Re: anycasting behind different ASNs?

2006-12-06 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, matthew zeier wrote: Are there any practical issues with announcing the same route behind different ASNs? Shortly I'll have two seperate sites (EU, US) announcing their own space behind their own ASNs but have a desire to anycast a particular network out of both locatio

Re: anycasting behind different ASNs?

2006-12-06 Thread Steve Gibbard
On Wed, 6 Dec 2006, John Kristoff wrote: On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:38:10 -0800 matthew zeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are there any practical issues with announcing the same route behind different ASNs? This is known as Multiple Origin AS of which you should be able to find plenty of discus

Re: anycasting behind different ASNs?

2006-12-06 Thread John Kristoff
On Wed, 06 Dec 2006 09:38:10 -0800 matthew zeier <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Are there any practical issues with announcing the same route behind > different ASNs? This is known as Multiple Origin AS of which you should be able to find plenty of discussion and articles about. It's not uncommo

Re: anycasting behind different ASNs?

2006-12-06 Thread Joe Abley
On 6-Dec-2006, at 13:03, James Jun wrote: Check 192.88.99.0/24. It is an anycasted prefix for 6to4 tunneling. No AS number was assigned for 6to4, thus it has inconsistent AS origin, and works without any problems. Well, without any problems that a consistent origin AS would fix, anyw

Re: anycasting behind different ASNs?

2006-12-06 Thread bmanning
On Wed, Dec 06, 2006 at 09:38:10AM -0800, matthew zeier wrote: > > > Are there any practical issues with announcing the same route behind > different ASNs? there are any nubmer of self-appointed routing police who will instruct you on their particular brand of correct

RE: anycasting behind different ASNs?

2006-12-06 Thread James Jun
> > Are there any practical issues with announcing the same route behind > different ASNs? No. > > Shortly I'll have two seperate sites (EU, US) announcing their own space > behind their own ASNs but have a desire to anycast a particular network > out of both locations as well. > > (This is j

anycasting behind different ASNs?

2006-12-06 Thread matthew zeier
Are there any practical issues with announcing the same route behind different ASNs? Shortly I'll have two seperate sites (EU, US) announcing their own space behind their own ASNs but have a desire to anycast a particular network out of both locations as well. (This is just my attempted t

Re: U.S./Europe connectivity

2006-12-06 Thread Michael . Dillon
> "You cannae break the laws of physics, Captain!" > > Seriously, LINX is the obvious first step. To find a low latency connection from Chicago to Europe? Somehow I think that he should be shopping locally but it might be useful to use the LINX looking-glass to validate what his local vendors t

AW: U.S./Europe connectivity

2006-12-06 Thread Gunther Stammwitz
Get ip-transit from a provider that is peering with tier2s in the uk. I'm seeing problems with tier1s again and again: they have a great global network but they won't reach most of the end users on a direct way since they are only peering with other tier1s. The route will always go trough a tier1

Re: U.S./Europe connectivity

2006-12-06 Thread Alexander Harrowell
"You cannae break the laws of physics, Captain!" Seriously, LINX is the obvious first step. On 12/6/06, David Temkin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Have you ever had to use Radianz' service? :-) (disclaimer: it's far, far better nowadays) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: U.S./Europe connectivity

2006-12-06 Thread David Temkin
Have you ever had to use Radianz' service? :-) (disclaimer: it's far, far better nowadays) > -Original Message- > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On > Behalf Of Robert E. Seastrom > Sent: Wednesday, December 06, 2006 6:38 AM > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] > Cc: [EMAIL PROTE

Re: U.S./Europe connectivity

2006-12-06 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: > BTW, the speed of light in fibre is roughly equal to > the speed of electrons in copper and roughly equal to > two-thirds the speed of light in a vacuum. You just > can't move information faster than about 200,000 km/hr. Slow day at work, Michael? In my universe lig

Re: U.S./Europe connectivity

2006-12-06 Thread Michael . Dillon
> I am doing some work on a network in central Illinois that is > currently peering with Sprint and McLeod. They have a number of > customers in the U.K. and they want to reduce latency to that part of > the world. Make sure they're not trying to reduce latency below the speed of light in