Re: Cable-Tying with Waxed Twine

2007-01-25 Thread Robert Boyle
At 07:30 PM 1/24/2007, you wrote: Upon leaving a router at telx and asking one of their techs to plug in the equipment for me, I came back to find all my cat5 cables neatly tied with some sort of waxed twine, using an interesting looping knot pattern that repeated every six inches or so using

Re: Cisco Security Advisory: Crafted IP Option Vulnerability

2007-01-25 Thread Gadi Evron
On Wed, 24 Jan 2007, Andre Gironda wrote: On 1/24/07, Gadi Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How many OPK's are being released today.. anyone? Ovulation Predictor Kits? OEM Preinstallation Kits? One Packet Killers -dre

Re: Cable-Tying with Waxed Twine

2007-01-25 Thread Alexander Harrowell
looks like a string of half hitchen to me. of course, if you need something huskier you could do a timber hitch, then a half, repeat as necessary. wasn't anyone else here a boy scout?

Re: Colocation in the US.

2007-01-25 Thread Alexander Harrowell
How long before we rediscover the smokestack? After all, a colo is an industrial facility. A cellar beneath, a tall stack on top, and let physics do the rest. Anyway, RJ45 for Water is a cracking idea. I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't already standardised pipe connectors in use elsewhere

RE: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j Released (fwd)

2007-01-25 Thread michael.dillon
how do you define your schema? how long does it take to insert/index/whatnot the data? This is a much bigger deal than most people realize. Poor schema design will cause your system to choke bade when you try to scale it. In fact, relational databases are not the ideal way to store this kind

RE: Cable Tying with Waxed Twine

2007-01-25 Thread Randy Epstein
Hey Marty :) snip and digg it: http://www.digg.com/mods/The_lost_art_of_cable-lacing... Corrected URL: http://www.digg.com/mods/The_lost_art_of_cable-lacing...?cshow=194773 -M Randy

RE: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j Released (fwd)

2007-01-25 Thread Ray Burkholder
But to start with, just solving the data storage problem is a good place to start. If someone can create a specialized network monitoring database that scales, then the rest of the toolkit will be much easier to deal with. Note that people have done a lot of research on this sort of

Re: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j Released (fwd)

2007-01-25 Thread Jason LeBlanc
This is where dbms' designed for data warehouses might come into play, something like SybaseIQ. It is adapted for long term storage and retrieval. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: how do you define your schema? how long does it take to insert/index/whatnot the data? This is a much bigger

Re: Cable Tying with Waxed Twine

2007-01-25 Thread Jason LeBlanc
I can't imagine using wax twine, I love my velcro. Randy Epstein wrote: Hey Marty :) snip and digg it: http://www.digg.com/mods/The_lost_art_of_cable-lacing... Corrected URL: http://www.digg.com/mods/The_lost_art_of_cable-lacing...?cshow=194773 -M Randy

RE: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j Released (fwd)

2007-01-25 Thread michael.dillon
But to start with, just solving the data storage problem is a good place to start. How about something like: http://www.hdfgroup.org/whatishdf5.html That certainly has a lot of support in the scientific community in similar applications such as astronomy and high-energy physics.

RE: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j Released (fwd)

2007-01-25 Thread michael.dillon
This is where dbms' designed for data warehouses might come into play, something like SybaseIQ. It is adapted for long term storage and retrieval. If you understand the finer details of schema design for data warehousing such as star schemas and snowflake schemas then you will probably

Re: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j Released (fwd)

2007-01-25 Thread Florian Weimer
* Ray Burkholder: How about something like: http://www.hdfgroup.org/whatishdf5.html I don't think they support transactional updates, which makes it hard to use for live data. (A simple crash, and you need to recover from backup.) -- Florian Weimer[EMAIL PROTECTED] BFK

Dell PowerConnect 3324

2007-01-25 Thread Joe Abley
I'm looking at a somewhat convoluted switched gigE path between an M7i and an ERX, both of which I am expecting to be able to fill a gigabit ethernet interface, but in practice the throughput is maxing out at around half a gig of internet-sized packets in each direction. (This is nothing

Re: Dell PowerConnect 3324

2007-01-25 Thread Ingo Flaschberger
Hi, The bottleneck in the path (based on choosing the switch with the lowest model number, on the principle that bigger model numbers means mroe fastar1!1) is probably a Dell PowerConnect 3324 with one SX SFP, one LX SFP and all the 100M ports pretty much idle. There are no increasing error

Re: Dell PowerConnect 3324

2007-01-25 Thread Ingo Flaschberger
The bottleneck in the path (based on choosing the switch with the lowest model number, on the principle that bigger model numbers means mroe fastar1!1) is probably a Dell PowerConnect 3324 with one SX SFP, one LX SFP and all the 100M ports pretty much idle. There are no increasing error

Re: Colocation in the US.

2007-01-25 Thread Paul Vixie
How long before we rediscover the smokestack? After all, a colo is an industrial facility. A cellar beneath, a tall stack on top, and let physics do the rest. odd that you should say that. when building out in a warehouse with 28 foot ceilings, i've just spec'd raised floor (which i usually

Re: Colocation in the US.

2007-01-25 Thread Alexander Harrowell
On 1/25/07, Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How long before we rediscover the smokestack? After all, a colo is an industrial facility. A cellar beneath, a tall stack on top, and let physics do the rest. odd that you should say that. when building out in a warehouse with 28 foot

Re: Cable-Tying with Waxed Twine

2007-01-25 Thread Jared Mauch
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 09:41:22PM -0700, Larry Beaulieu wrote: The other thing I found interesting; The use of Zip Ties on Copper Cabling is frowned upon by BICSI. Velcro preferred. Something to do with the compression on a twisted-pair cable caused by over-tight nylon cable ties

Re: Cable-Tying with Waxed Twine

2007-01-25 Thread Ian Mason
On 25 Jan 2007, at 04:41, Larry Beaulieu wrote: The other thing I found interesting; The use of Zip Ties on Copper Cabling is frowned upon by BICSI. Velcro preferred. Something to do with the compression on a twisted-pair cable caused by over-tight nylon cable ties screwing with

Re: Cable-Tying with Waxed Twine

2007-01-25 Thread Brandon Butterworth
The UK avionics industry used to (and may still) use thin PVC tube for lacing Have a reel here still, Suflex Lacing Cord R88W PVC over synthetic cord brandon

Re: Cable-Tying with Waxed Twine (fire propagation issue?)

2007-01-25 Thread John L Lee
Dan, While I do not know the answer, My question on using the wax twine in a climate controlled or colo with fire suppression or even telco colo these days is it allowed under newer NEC since it is flammable and can sustain burning for a period of time. While Telecos do not usually retrofit

Site Survey...

2007-01-25 Thread Robert Sherrard
Is it unreasonable to ask a carrier to perform a site survey, before quoting out an install? I am looking to pull some fiber into a building that is off net, and I cannot get my potential carrier to perform a site survey. My reason for concern is that the NRC / install is 18k, and they have

Re: Colocation in the US.

2007-01-25 Thread Bill Woodcock
Obviously convection is the best way, and I've gotten away with it a few times myself, but the usual answer to your why not question is Fire codes. Convection drives the intensity and spread of fires. Which is what furnace chimneys are for. Thus all the controls on plenum spaces. But when

Re: Site Survey...

2007-01-25 Thread Dwight A. Ernest
I don't see what reasonable has to do with it. If you don't like it, and you have a choice, vote with your pocketbook by taking your business elsewhere. If you don't have a choice, and your carrier knows it, then you have little recourse except where it might affect business elsewhere. I

Electric utilities, IP addressing, and BPL (was Re: Google wants to be your Internet)

2007-01-25 Thread Josh Gerber
* From: Sean Donelan * Date: Tue Jan 23 15:06:02 2007 What do you do when the electric companies split up again, renumber the meters into different network blocks? Thanks for the discussion. It's rare I've seen a thread on NANOG that's so pertinent to my own situation. I work for a

Re: Colocation in the US.

2007-01-25 Thread John Curran
At 3:49 PM -0800 1/24/07, Mike Lyon wrote: I think if someone finds a workable non-conductive cooling fluid that would probably be the best thing. I fear the first time someone is working near their power outlets and water starts squirting, flooding and electricuting everyone and everything.

Global Crossing issues, traffic routed from Los Angeles to Orange County via Europe

2007-01-25 Thread Ed Ray
Does anyone know what issues global crossing might be having in LA area? All of my VPNs via global crossing were getting routed to europe and back, i.e. 11 ms1 ms1 ms 192.168.11.1 2 9 ms11 ms15 ms 10.35.192.1 3 9 ms 7 ms 7 ms

Re: Site Survey...

2007-01-25 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007 14:49:55 EST, Dwight A. Ernest said: I don't see what reasonable has to do with it. If you don't like it, and you have a choice, vote with your pocketbook by taking your business elsewhere. If you don't have a choice, and your carrier knows it, then you have little

Re: Cable-Tying with Waxed Twine

2007-01-25 Thread Wayne E. Bouchard
Oh, just a small note on this topic... Lacing (or even zip tying) doesn't really help a great deal for tracability and whatnot unless you at least do a rough job of combing out cables. In fact, failing to do so when you're tying cables down can kink cables and actually lead to failures since

Re: Colocation in the US.

2007-01-25 Thread Sean Donelan
On Thu, 25 Jan 2007, Bill Woodcock wrote: Obviously convection is the best way, and I've gotten away with it a few times myself, but the usual answer to your why not question is Fire codes. Convection drives the intensity and spread of fires. Which is what furnace chimneys are for. Thus all

Re: Colocation in the US.

2007-01-25 Thread Warren Kumari
The main issue with Flourinert is price -- I wanted some to cool a 20W IR laser -- I didn't spend that much time looking before I just decided to switch to distilled water, but I was finding prices like $300 for a 1 liter bottle (http://www.parallax-tech.com/ fluorine.htm). I did find

Re: Colocation in the US.

2007-01-25 Thread Warren Kumari
On Jan 25, 2007, at 12:49 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: The main issue with Flourinert is price -- I wanted some to cool a 20W IR laser -- I didn't spend that much time looking before I just decided to switch to distilled water, but I was finding prices like $300 for a 1 liter bottle

Re: Colocation in the US.

2007-01-25 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 25, 2007, at 3:56 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: On Jan 25, 2007, at 12:49 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: The main issue with Flourinert is price -- I wanted some to cool a 20W IR laser -- I didn't spend that much time looking before I just decided to switch to distilled water, but I was

monitoring software design, was Re: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j Released (fwd)

2007-01-25 Thread Travis H.
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 08:05:24PM +, Paul Vixie wrote: glibly said, sir. but i disasterously underestimated the amount of time and money it would take to build BIND9. While I can't question your credentials at creating serious network infrastructure, I wonder about the comparison between

Re: [cacti-announce] Cacti 0.8.6j Released (fwd)

2007-01-25 Thread Travis H.
On Wed, Jan 24, 2007 at 02:12:01PM -0400, Ray Burkholder wrote: I've done some work with Cricket and have figured out a way to get at it's schema. I've been looking at mating Cricket' s 'getter and schema with Drraw and genDevConfig tools and putting a Mason based HTML wrapper around the