RE: Abuse procedures... Reality Checks

2007-04-10 Thread michael.dillon
I have to disagree. SWIP is not meaningless. In my company some functions related to sending a SWIP are automated, but my company has people on staff who know that it is happening and what it means. And I talk with plenty of other companies that fall into the same boat. In

New RIPE NCC IPv4 blocks pingable addresses

2007-04-10 Thread Alex Le Heux
[Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear Colleages, The IANA recently allocated the IPv4 address ranges 92/8 and 93/8 to the RIPE NCC. The following pingable addresses are now available in these blocks: 92.192.0.1 92.255.248.1 93.192.0.1 93.255.248.1 More information regarding the

4 Byte AS deployment

2007-04-10 Thread Jac Kloots
FYI: SURFnet has setup a 4 byte AS using Quagga and is currently announcing 2 prefixes originating from AS3.5 IPv4: 145.125.0.0/20 (Worldwide visible) http://www.ris.ripe.net/cgi-bin/lg/index.cgi?rrc=RRC001query=12arg=%5C.5 IPv6: 2001:610:160::/48 (Only visible to the RIPE RIS project and

Re: Abuse procedures... Reality Checks

2007-04-10 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 09:50:34PM +, Fergie wrote: I would have to respectfully disagree with you. When network operators do due diligence and SWIP their sub-allocations, they (the sub-allocations) should be authoritative in regards to things like RBLs. After thinking it over: I

Re: Abuse procedures... Reality Checks

2007-04-10 Thread Rich Kulawiec
On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 04:20:59PM -0500, Frank Bulk wrote: Define network operator: the AS holder for that space or the operator of that smaller-than-slash-24 sub-block? If the problem consistently comes from /29 why not just leave the block in and be done with it? Because

RE: Abuse procedures... Reality Checks

2007-04-10 Thread Frank Bulk
Comcast is known to emit lots of abuse -- are you blocking all their networks today? Frank -Original Message- From: Frank Bulk Sent: Tuesday, April 10, 2007 7:43 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Abuse procedures... Reality Checks On Sat, Apr 07, 2007 at 09:50:34PM +, Fergie

Re: IPv6 Finally gets off the ground

2007-04-10 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 06:15:34PM -0500, J. Oquendo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 24 lines which said: was successfully configured by NASA Glenn Research Center to use IPsec and IPv6 technologies in space. Any human on board? Because he would have been able to access useful

RE: IPv6 Finally gets off the ground

2007-04-10 Thread Scott Morris
HAHAHAHAHA I always knew that this stuff was the most prevalent and billable content on the web, but I never thought of using it as a motivating factor for chage! Good one! Scott -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Stephane Bortzmeyer

RE: Abuse procedures... Reality Checks

2007-04-10 Thread michael.dillon
Because I haven't got unlimited WHOIS queries. (Although I and everyone else *should* have those. There are no valid reasons to rate-limit any form of WHOIS query.) Yes there are. The current whois returns way more information on a query than you need for network operations. That's

Re: Abuse procedures... Reality Checks

2007-04-10 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 03:11:31PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... Yes there are. The current whois returns way more information on a query than you need for network operations. That's because the current whois was designed back in the 1970's so that ARPANET network managers could

Re: Abuse procedures... Reality Checks

2007-04-10 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 10:30:32AM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... I also find it curious that you claim to have people on staff at your company who know what SWIP means. Perhaps you could ask them to share that information with us since I have never seen this documented anywhere. Do they

Re: IPv6 Finally gets off the ground

2007-04-10 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 03:54:39PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 06:15:34PM -0500, J. Oquendo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 24 lines which said: was successfully configured by NASA Glenn Research Center to use IPsec and IPv6 technologies in space.

Re: New RIPE NCC IPv4 blocks pingable addresses

2007-04-10 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 11:56:57 +0200 Alex Le Heux [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: [Apologies for duplicate emails] Dear Colleages, The IANA recently allocated the IPv4 address ranges 92/8 and 93/8 to the RIPE NCC. The following pingable addresses are now available in these blocks:

Re: IPv6 Finally gets off the ground

2007-04-10 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Apr 10, 2007, at 11:13 AM, Joseph S D Yao wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 03:54:39PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Sun, Apr 08, 2007 at 06:15:34PM -0500, J. Oquendo [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote a message of 24 lines which said: was successfully configured by NASA Glenn Research Center

Re: IPv6 Finally gets off the ground

2007-04-10 Thread David W. Hankins
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 03:54:39PM +0200, Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: IPv6 has had operating system and router support for years. I'd have to object with such a blanket statement. I don't think you can say you support IPv6 (from an ISP's point of view) without DHCPv6, since I don't think anyone

Re: IPv6 Finally gets off the ground

2007-04-10 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: The only good thing I can say about this proposal is that 10GB is not NEARLY enough to get your typical luser to think about changing their configuration. Therefore, it probably won't have an impact on v6 adoption. (That ghod.) Nor was it intended to. From what

Re: IPv6 Finally gets off the ground

2007-04-10 Thread Joseph S D Yao
On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 12:10:59PM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: ... Second, who said v6 was the heights? ... My, aren't we serious? Too serious to realize that satellites are a little higher than I, at least, can reach. -- Joe Yao Analex Contractor

Re: IPv6 Finally gets off the ground

2007-04-10 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Apr 10, 2007, at 1:24 PM, Joseph S D Yao wrote: On Tue, Apr 10, 2007 at 12:10:59PM -0400, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: ... Second, who said v6 was the heights? ... My, aren't we serious? Too serious to realize that satellites are a little higher than I, at least, can reach. Guess I

Re: IPv6 Finally gets off the ground

2007-04-10 Thread Gian Constantine
Yes. Silly of you. I think you may have missed more than the singular reference. This back and forth has little to do with morality and more to do with opinion. Yet it begs, how moral is an argument of 'my opinion is superior to your opinion'? Such a lashing of another's opinion under

Re: Abuse procedures... Reality Checks

2007-04-10 Thread Stephen Satchell
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I also find it curious that you claim to have people on staff at your company who know what SWIP means. Perhaps you could ask them to share that information with us since I have never seen this documented anywhere. Do they really know what you claim they know?