Re: IETF Journal Announcement (fwd)

2008-02-28 Thread Joe Abley
On 27-Feb-2008, at 15:09, Mark Smith wrote: Don't worry if the ISOC website times out, their firewall isn't TCP ECN compatible. Isn't it the case in the real world that the Internet isn't TCP ECN compatible? I thought people had relegated that to the nice idea but, in practice, waste

Re: Qwest desires mesh to reduce unused standby capacity

2008-02-28 Thread Joe Abley
On 28-Feb-2008, at 01:56, Paul Wall wrote: UU/MFS tried running IP on the 'protect' path of their SONET rings 10 years ago. It didn't work then. Well, it works so long as whoever was trying to troubleshoot the circuits at 3am on US Thanksgiving understands that having the system switch

Re: Qwest desires mesh to reduce unused standby capacity

2008-02-28 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008, Joe Abley wrote: On 28-Feb-2008, at 01:56, Paul Wall wrote: UU/MFS tried running IP on the 'protect' path of their SONET rings 10 years ago. It didn't work then. Well, it works so long as whoever was trying to troubleshoot the circuits at 3am on US

Re: Qwest desires mesh to reduce unused standby capacity

2008-02-28 Thread Joe Abley
On 28-Feb-2008, at 09:26, Adrian Chadd wrote: Then you probably haven't been on the ass end of a continental fibre link drop. That actually mattered. If both sides of your SONET ring drop, then surely you're as dead in the water as you would be if each side of the ring was being used as

Re: Qwest desires mesh to reduce unused standby capacity

2008-02-28 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008, Joe Abley wrote: On 28-Feb-2008, at 09:26, Adrian Chadd wrote: Then you probably haven't been on the ass end of a continental fibre link drop. That actually mattered. If both sides of your SONET ring drop, then surely you're as dead in the water as you would

Re: IPV4 as a Commodity for Profit

2008-02-28 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake Owen DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] On Feb 24, 2008, at 12:45 PM, Stephen Sprunk wrote: The wording of the question and response referred only to ARIN members. That does not include most orgs with _only_ legacy allocations, but it would include orgs with both legacy and non- legacy

AboveNet Global Routing issue

2008-02-28 Thread Ross Vandegrift
Hi Everyone, Just received a light-up of calls about general connectivity, a call to AboveNet got us the answer that they are having global routing issues. Has anyone received any more details? -- Ross Vandegrift [EMAIL PROTECTED] The good Christian should beware of mathematicians, and all

Re: AboveNet Global Routing issue

2008-02-28 Thread Rodrick Brown
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 1:54 PM, Ross Vandegrift [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi Everyone, Just received a light-up of calls about general connectivity, a call to AboveNet got us the answer that they are having global routing issues. Has anyone received any more details? Seeing issues here

RE: AboveNet Global Routing issue

2008-02-28 Thread Blake Pfankuch
Got this off another list. AboveNet is experiencing a network event. Event Date Time: 18:00 UTC, 28 Feb 2008 Event Description: AboveNet is experiencing routing instability in it's global IP backbone. Customers may be experiencing increased latency and packet loss during this event.

Re: IETF Journal Announcement (fwd)

2008-02-28 Thread Mark Smith
On Thu, 28 Feb 2008 08:41:27 -0500 Joe Abley [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 27-Feb-2008, at 15:09, Mark Smith wrote: Don't worry if the ISOC website times out, their firewall isn't TCP ECN compatible. Isn't it the case in the real world that the Internet isn't TCP ECN compatible?

wanted: server hotel location(s) in SE,GR

2008-02-28 Thread travis+ml-nanog
Hi, I was wondering if anyone knew of server hotel locations in Sweden or Greece. More generally, if there is a good resource for me to look this up myself next time. Thanks in advance, Travis -- URL:https://www.subspacefield.org/~travis/ Q: Who Would Jesus Waterboard? A: Matthew 5:38-42 For

Re: wanted: server hotel location(s) in SE,GR

2008-02-28 Thread Aaron Glenn
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008 at 12:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: More generally, if there is a good resource for me to look this up myself next time. www.datacentermap.com www.peeringdb.com (where there are exchanges, there is conditioned space not too far away)

Re: wanted: server hotel location(s) in SE,GR

2008-02-28 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Feb 28, 2008, at 3:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anyone knew of server hotel locations in Sweden I would recommend Netnod in Sweden. Kurtis Lindqvist is a good contact there. Regards Marshall or Greece. More generally, if there is a good resource for me

Re: AboveNet Global Routing issue

2008-02-28 Thread Eric Brunner-Williams
I'm seeing everything from Hughes Network (my vsat) go to Portland, Maine, from Northern Virginia, by way of Nashville, Las Vegas, Los Angeles (Verizon), and then back to Boston (Alter), for 20 hops. The usual is 10, straight up the eastern seaboard. Lots of delay, and more bad dns than

Re: IETF Journal Announcement (fwd)

2008-02-28 Thread Randy Bush
Isn't it the case in the real world that the Internet isn't TCP ECN compatible? actually, no. ecn compat is increasing, happy to say.

Re: IETF Journal Announcement (fwd)

2008-02-28 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Randy Bush wrote: Isn't it the case in the real world that the Internet isn't TCP ECN compatible? actually, no. ecn compat is increasing, happy to say. Hopefully the number of people with 8 year old pix firewall software is not...

Re: AboveNet Global Routing issue

2008-02-28 Thread John Dvorak
Anyone aware if this is causing any bleedover to Sprint? Seeing massive delays (~280+ ms) and drops between Relay, MD (144.232.15.2) and San Jose (144.232.8.145). Also seeing same from fort worth (144.232.9.192) to ana (144.232.20.64). Cisco.com is a good destination to try. On Thu, 28 Feb

Re: wanted: server hotel location(s) in SE,GR

2008-02-28 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Feb 28, 2008, at 4:29 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Feb 28, 2008, at 3:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I was wondering if anyone knew of server hotel locations in Sweden I would recommend Netnod in Sweden. Kurtis Lindqvist is a good contact there. NetNod is a secure IX in Sweden,