Re: "Does TCP Need an Overhaul?" (internetevolution, via slashdot)

2008-04-05 Thread Hank Nussbacher
At 03:54 PM 05-04-08 -0500, Jorge Amodio wrote: outstanding compilation Hank, thanks !!! I suggest reading the excellent page: "High-Speed TCP Variants": http://kb.pert.geant2.net/PERTKB/TcpHighSpeedVariants Rgds -Jorge It is the result of the Geant2 SA3 working group. There is much more

Akamai/Speedera outages this weekend?

2008-04-05 Thread david raistrick
Anyone know anything about the Speedera (now Akamai) outages this weekend? https://cachecontrol.speedera.com/cgi-bin/cpurge.pl has been off and on unreachable since last night, which is causing fits for some parts of our application... of course, I have been able to find zero contact infor

Re: Nanog 43/CBX -- Hotel codes etc

2008-04-05 Thread Joe Greco
> Anyway -- I regard most of those warnings as quite overblown. I mean, > on lots of subway cars you stand out more if you don't have white > earbuds in, probably attached to iPhones. Midtown is very safe. Your > laptop bag doesn't have to say "laptop" on it to be recognized as such, > but ther

RE: Flow Based Routing/Switching (Was: "Does TCP Need an Overhaul?" (internetevolution, via slashdot))

2008-04-05 Thread michael.dillon
> The flows are in those boxes, but only for stats purposes > exported with NetFlow/IPFIX/sFlow/etc. Apparently it was not > as fast as they liked it to be and there where other issues. > Thus what exactly is new here in his boxes that has not been > tried and failed before? Roberts is selli

Re: "Does TCP Need an Overhaul?" (internetevolution, via slashdot)

2008-04-05 Thread Jorge Amodio
outstanding compilation Hank, thanks !!! Rgds -Jorge

Time Warner NOC contacts.

2008-04-05 Thread Kirk Winkelman
If there is anyone from Time Warner NOC on this list, please contact me at [EMAIL PROTECTED] We are seeing issues with DNS caching inside the RR network. Thanks, Kirk Winkelman Positive Networks

RE: "Does TCP Need an Overhaul?" (internetevolution, via slashdot)

2008-04-05 Thread Charles N Wyble
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008, Kevin Day wrote: > On Apr 4, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Paul Vixie wrote: >> >> What is really necessary is to detect just the flows that need to >> slow >> down, and selectively discard just one packet at the right time, but >> not more, per TCP cycle. Discarding too m

Re: "Does TCP Need an Overhaul?" (internetevolution, via slashdot)

2008-04-05 Thread Hank Nussbacher
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008, Kevin Day wrote: On Apr 4, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Paul Vixie wrote: What is really necessary is to detect just the flows that need to slow down, and selectively discard just one packet at the right time, but not more, per TCP cycle. Discarding too many will c

Re: "Does TCP Need an Overhaul?" (internetevolution, via slashdot)

2008-04-05 Thread David Andersen
On Apr 5, 2008, at 9:40 AM, Kevin Day wrote: in answer to your question about SACK, it looks like they simulate a slower link speed for all TCP sessions that they guess are in the same flow-bundle. thus, all sessions in that flow-bundle see a single shared contributed bandwidth-delay pro

Re: "Does TCP Need an Overhaul?" (internetevolution, via slashdot)

2008-04-05 Thread Steven M. Bellovin
On Sat, 5 Apr 2008 01:02:24 -0400 "Christopher Morrow" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:51 PM, Paul Vixie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > (i'd hate to think that everybody would have to buy > > roberts' (anagran's) Fast Flow Technology at every node of their > > network

Re: "Does TCP Need an Overhaul?" (internetevolution, via slashdot)

2008-04-05 Thread Kevin Day
On Apr 5, 2008, at 7:49 AM, Paul Vixie wrote: You've also got fast retransmit, New Reno, BIC/CUBIC, as well as host parameter caching to limit the affect of packet loss on recovery time. I don't doubt that someone else could do a better job than I did in this field, but I'd be really cur

Re: "Does TCP Need an Overhaul?" (internetevolution, via slashdot)

2008-04-05 Thread Paul Vixie
> You've also got fast retransmit, New Reno, BIC/CUBIC, as well as host > parameter caching to limit the affect of packet loss on recovery time. I > don't doubt that someone else could do a better job than I did in this > field, but I'd be really curious to know how much of an effect a > intermed

Re: fiber switch for gig

2008-04-05 Thread Fernando André
Just a question what is the group opinion on Dell L3 Power Connect switch's ? Best regards, Fernando Jeff McAdams wrote: Tim Durack wrote: I guess we've had good experience with ProCurve, so have stuck with them. I also like the fact that it is the same code train for the 5400 chassis and

Re: "Does TCP Need an Overhaul?" (internetevolution, via slashdot)

2008-04-05 Thread Matthew Moyle-Croft
Reworded: What I'm not quite sure "Fast Flow" is exactly what is it really doing that isn't being done already by the DPI vendors (eg. Cisco SCE2000 on the Cisco webpage claims to be able to track 2million unidirectional flows). Am I missing something? Aside from my horribly broken attemp

Re: "Does TCP Need an Overhaul?" (internetevolution, via slashdot)

2008-04-05 Thread Matthew Moyle-Croft
I'm not quite sure about with this Fast Flow technology is exactly what it's really doing that isn't being done already by the DPI vendors (eg. Cisco SCE2000 on the Cisco webpage claims to be able to track 2million unidirectional flows). Am I missing something? MMC Paul Vixie wrote: ..

RE: Flow Based Routing/Switching (Was: "Does TCP Need an Overhaul?" (internetevolution, via slashdot))

2008-04-05 Thread Lincoln Dale
> > i wouldn't want to get in an argument with somebody who was smart and savvy > > enough to invent packet switching during the year i entered kindergarden, > > but, somebody told me once that keeping information on every flow was *not* > > "inexpensive." should somebody tell dr. roberts? > > I

Re: rack power question

2008-04-05 Thread Barton F Bruce
A close second might be liquid cooled air tight cabinets with the air/water heat exchangers (redundant pair) at the bottom where leaks are less of an issue (drip tray, anyone? :) )... Something like what you suggest has been around for a year or two now, though using liquid CO2 as the coola

Re: "Does TCP Need an Overhaul?" (internetevolution, via slashdot)

2008-04-05 Thread Kevin Day
On Apr 4, 2008, at 8:51 PM, Paul Vixie wrote: What is really necessary is to detect just the flows that need to slow down, and selectively discard just one packet at the right time, but not more, per TCP cycle. Discarding too many will cause a flow to stall -- we se

Re: Flow Based Routing/Switching (Was: "Does TCP Need an Overhaul?" (internetevolution, via slashdot))

2008-04-05 Thread Roland Dobbins
On Apr 5, 2008, at 5:16 PM, Jeroen Massar wrote: The flows are in those boxes, but only for stats purposes exported with NetFlow/IPFIX/sFlow/etc. Apparently it was not as fast as they liked it to be This is essentially correct. NetFlow was originally intended as a switching mechanism,

Flow Based Routing/Switching (Was: "Does TCP Need an Overhaul?" (internetevolution, via slashdot))

2008-04-05 Thread Jeroen Massar
Paul Vixie wrote: [..] i wouldn't want to get in an argument with somebody who was smart and savvy enough to invent packet switching during the year i entered kindergarden, but, somebody told me once that keeping information on every flow was *not* "inexpensive." should somebody tell dr. roberts