Re: Kenyan Route Hijack

2008-03-15 Thread Bill Stewart
On Sat, Mar 15, 2008 at 9:09 PM, Glen Kent <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Unlike the Youtube outage where PTA had issued a directive asking all > ISPs to block Youtube - What is the reason most often cited for such > mishaps? The reason i ask this is because the ISPs that > "inadvertently" hijac

Re: Routing Loop

2008-03-15 Thread Bill Stewart
7018 is still seeing announcements from 6461, and the Oregon Routeviews server route-views.routeviews.org also sees many announcements from different ISPs seeing it announced from 6461. The whois entry for Above.net lists the NOC as RTechHandle: NOC41-ORG-ARIN RTechName: AboveNet NOC R

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

2008-02-01 Thread Bill Stewart
More productively, there are real concerns with the cable routing around India and Pakistan. Connections across Egypt have geographical constraints that are probably more significant than the political ones, but having most of the connectivity into western India going into Mumbai and not Cochin o

Re: Another cablecut - sri lanka to suez Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

2008-02-01 Thread Bill Stewart
On Feb 1, 2008 2:37 PM, Steven M. Bellovin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > (either that, or the backhoe operators' union has decided there's > > better money to be made on water than on land.) Guys named Bubba can get fishing licenses just as easily as backhoe drivers' licenses. One of my customer

Re: Asymmetrical routing opinions/debate

2008-01-14 Thread Bill Stewart
There's the somewhat trivial efficiency that if you're willing to accept asymmetric routing, you spend a lot less time tweaking your networks than if you insist on symmetry, and the more significant issue that the network will usually be more resilient and reliable (though slightly less predictabl

Re: [admin] Using the NANOG list as a paging mechanism

2008-01-08 Thread Bill Stewart
Normally these requests are looking for somebody who's operational and has a clue, and therefore aren't intended for me (:-), but IMHO they're_really_ not a problem. They're almost always short, and have Subject: lines that indicate what they're about, so it's easy to skip over them based on the S

Re: Hey, SiteFinder is back, again...

2007-11-05 Thread Bill Stewart
When Verisign hijacked the wildcard DNS space for .com/.net, they encoded the Evil Bit in the response by putting Sitefinder's IP address as the IP address. In theory you could interpret that as damage and route around it, or at least build ACLs to block any traffic to that IP address except for

Re: How Not to Multihome

2007-10-09 Thread Bill Stewart
On 10/8/07, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > That brings up an interesing point. My biggest fear was that one of my > other customers could possible be closer to me that the ISP that provides > the primary link and it would cause them to favor the backup link because of > AS path.

Re: Why do some ISP's have bandwidth quotas?

2007-10-04 Thread Bill Stewart
On 10/4/07, Hex Star <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Why is it that the US has ISP's with either no quotas or obscenely high ones > while countries like Australia have ISP's with ~12gb quotas? > Is there some kind of added cost running a non US ISP? One early US cable modem company started propagat

Re: Long-haul protected services: (was: Re: Bee attack, fiber cut, 7-hour outage)

2007-09-28 Thread Bill Stewart
On 9/21/07, Deepak Jain <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > However, when I see "Location of Maintenance: France" and a 5 minute > outage for a protected SONET service on a supposedly redundant, high > quality International voice/data network... well, let's just say I'm not > impressed -- on 36 hrs notic

Re: Market for diversity

2007-08-27 Thread Bill Stewart
On 8/26/07, Jason LeBlanc <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > More on point for this thread, I always have new vendors bring in fiber > maps and show me their paths. Images of the intended path specified on > the map are part of the contract, including verbage regarding failover > paths. Once I know wh

Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

2007-08-20 Thread Bill Stewart
> > On 8/15/07, Barry Shein <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > > I am not sure tasting is criminal or fraud. ... > Well, not all of us agree that these ad-only pages are particularly a > problem. They're certainly not necessarily criminal or fraudulent > except by some stretch. There are differe

Re: For want of a single ethernet card, an airport was lost ...

2007-08-20 Thread Bill Stewart
On 8/18/07, Steven M. Bellovin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Did you see what the GAO found when they audited the US-VISIT network? > The summary is at > http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/08/02/AR2007080202260.html?hpid=sec-nation; > the full report is at http://www.gao.gov/

Re: Security gain from NAT

2007-06-06 Thread Bill Stewart
On 6/5/07, Roger Marquis <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Are you proposing that every company use publicly routable address space? How about the ones that don't qualify for a /19 and so are dependent on addresses owned by their upstream? This discussion evolved from an IPv6 discussion, so there's

Re: Content provider plans

2007-06-05 Thread Bill Stewart
On 5/30/07, Michal Krsek <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Few weeks ago I had interesting discussion with *unnamed* Google VIP. His answer has been: "Google engineers doesn't see need to spend money on building IPv6 infrastructure. You, as user, can motivate them by sending request supporting this id

Re: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet

2007-04-14 Thread Bill Stewart
One of my customers comments that he doesn't care about jumbograms of 9K or 4K - what he really wants is to be sure the networks support MTUs of at least 1600-1700 bytes, so that various combinations of IPSEC, UDP-padding, PPPoE, etc. don't break the real 1500-byte packets underneath.

Re: Paul Vixie: Suspected Arms Dealer

2007-03-07 Thread Bill Stewart
> Is there something he's not telling us? Wasn't Paul also in that movie with Kevin Bacon? Thanks; Bill Note that this isn't my regular email account - It's still experimental so far. And Google probably logs and indexes everything you send it.

Re: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-14 Thread Bill Stewart
On 11/13/06, chuck goolsbee <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: It pisses me off to no end when a sales guy comes to me with a request from a customer for a /20 for a half-rack of web servers. The justification ALWAYS comes down to this inane "search engine optimization" pipe dream. =\ No, no, it's abs

Re: icmp rpf

2006-09-27 Thread Bill Stewart
Possible approach for small.net - ok, you know that big.net will drop any packets sourced from x.x.x.x if there's no route there (loose uRPF for downstream ISPs like small.net, strict uRPF for end-users.) So give them a route. Either give them a route on one of your direct interfaces to them, a

Re: IPv6 PI block is announced - update your filters 2620:0000::/23

2006-09-15 Thread Bill Stewart
Call me naive, but could somebody enlighten me as to what tangible benefit filtering out bogon space actually achieves? It strikes me that it causes more headaches than it solves. All packets arriving from bogon space have the "evil bit" set. There's nobody there you want to talk to, and there

Re: comast email issues, who else has them?

2006-09-07 Thread Bill Stewart
On 9/6/06, Stephen Sprunk <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Telling half my family members they have to go get Gmail so they can email the other half of my family members is ridiculous. Too bad Comcast has a monopoly (or, where a duopoly, the competition is just as incompetent) so they have no incenti

Re: MEDIA: ICANN rejects .xxx domain

2006-05-15 Thread Bill Stewart
On 5/11/06, Robert Bonomi <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > If we can coral them in it and legislate to have no porn anywhere > else than on .xxx ... should fix the issue for the prudes out there. And _that_ is *precisely* "why not". There have been at least three generations of proposals for

Re: Abovenet vs UUnet

2006-03-29 Thread Bill Stewart
Even if you decide you don't need to use a formal RFP process to make your purchasing decision from the dozens of Tier 1, Tier 2, and Tier 3 ISPs that can handle your locations, you might want to do a draft of an RFP to identify what requirements are important to you and what requirements are less

Re: Fire in bakery fries fiber optic cable

2006-03-27 Thread Bill Stewart
I used to have a customer who were in the forestry business. They had a hundred miles or so of railroad down South that went from one of their sawmills to places that had lots of trees, and ran some telecom cables along them. Where they had bridges, the cables would hang underneath the bridges.

Re: SUMMARY - 95th percentile calculation

2006-02-28 Thread Bill Stewart
I'm not operationally involved at AT&T, but what I've been told is that we track 5-minute samples in both directions, and do the 95th% calculation on all the samples, as opposed to tracking 95% of inbound-only or outbound-only or max(in,out) samples. On 2/27/06, Jo Rhett <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote

Re: a radical proposal (Re: protocols that don't meet the need...)

2006-02-21 Thread Bill Stewart
I looked at some of these models back in ~2000, but the dotcom boom ended and I didn't get laid off from my day job, so I didn't go trolling for venture capitalists, and my employer sold off their cable companies - since then, the market economics have changed a lot, and routers have started to su

Re: MLPPP over MPLS

2006-02-21 Thread Bill Stewart
I've also heard a variety of comments about difficulties in getting Cisco MLPPP working in MPLS environments, mostly in the past year when our product development people weren't buried in more serious problems (:--) I've got the vague impression that it was more buggy for N>2 than N=2. There are

Re: [Latest draft of Internet regulation bill]

2005-11-14 Thread Bill Stewart
On 11/12/05, Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Google is calling their offering "basic Internet access" and "premium > service." Is "basic Internet access" different than "internet access?" > Google doesn't really define what they mean by these terms. The article in the Palo Alto Daily N

Re: estimating VoIP data traffic size from VoIP signaling traffic size ?

2005-10-23 Thread Bill Stewart
Media traffic volumes are generally not visible, because they're from endpoint to endpoint, so unless you've got really detailed monitoring (which the original poster said they didn't), you're not going to see traffic between two phones in the same building, or traffic between buildings that don't

Re: Fwd: The Root has got an A record

2005-10-12 Thread Bill Stewart
Back in the mid-80s, when some people at Bell Labs were trying to get the rest of us there onto the DNS bandwagon, there were some people who didn't like it. Pike and Weinberger put out deep theoretical papers like The Hideous Name on relative vs. absolute names and the effects of syntax (availa

Re: AOL whitelisting - a heads-up and a request for assistance

2005-09-16 Thread Bill Stewart
> > In re-applying for whitelisting, I do see that AOL requires a > minimum of 100 emails/month to maintain a whitelist entry. This > is new to me, and would be worth nothing for others who may be > adding or removing servers. Sounds like an obvious motivation for any big mailing list vendor to

Re: OMB: IPv6 by June 2008

2005-07-12 Thread Bill Stewart
> > How are people making the case for IPv6 with [VOIP]? > > With G.711 and 20ms voice samples, with IPv4 you get: If you're running G.711, you've decided that network bandwidth isn't a problem for your application. Percentage of overhead doesn't really matter - it's total overhead bandwidth com

Re: London incidents

2005-07-12 Thread Bill Stewart
On 7/12/05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > They found a third of calls in the 10 minutes before the crash were made on > > cellphones. > And the *other* 2/3rd of the calls were made on what, exactly? > > A land line just before departure, followed by a crash less than 10 minute

Re: Malicious DNS request?

2005-05-15 Thread Bill Stewart
Tunneling IP over DNS - Dan Kaminsky's ozymandns project. One source of really strange DNS packets I've seen is Dan Kaminsky's experiments with tunneling IP over DNS , which he presented at Codecon, Defcon, and other places. Dan has often done Really Twisted Things With Packets, and once you've

Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden

2005-04-27 Thread Bill Stewart
On 4/27/05, Owen DeLong <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > I was referring to the article which contained the schneier quote, not > schneier. The article was written by someone at least pretending to be > a journalist, and, was put out as news, not editorial or advertising. > > As such, it should be h

Re: Schneier: ISPs should bear security burden

2005-04-27 Thread Bill Stewart
Steve Sobol wrote: > And I'd argue that Owen's attitude is appropriate for transit and > business-class connections[0] - but if you're talking about a consumer ISP, > that's different. If the Big Four[1] US cable companies followed AOL's lead, > we'd see a huge drop in malware incidents and zombie

Re: Slashdot: Providers Ignoring DNS TTL?

2005-04-24 Thread Bill Stewart
> > Well, PPLB isn't the end of the world. But PPLB is coming, and the smart > > people will be prepared for it. They dumb people, well, they're dumb. > > What can be expected from dumb people? There are a variety of things that don't like PPLB, notably IPSEC. One problem is that if packet lengt

Re: Verizon Offering Naked DSL in Northeast...

2005-04-24 Thread Bill Stewart
> PPPoEoL2TPoIPSECoLANEoIPV6oRFC1149. What a bunch of mean nasty ugly stuff. My Sonic.net connection is simply rfc1483 (IP packets on an ATM PVC with a standard SNAP header), and I think that's probably what SBC is delivering them. AT&T's business SDSL and IDSL circuits also work that way

Re: Six PCs caused BigPond problems

2005-04-14 Thread Bill Stewart
On 4/14/05, Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > http://www.zdnet.com.au/news/security/0,261744,39188319,00.htm > Disconnecting six compromised personal computers on Tuesday evening eased > the difficulties caused by bogus requests which clogged BigPond's domain > name servers (DNS), slow

Re: Anyone familiar with the SBC product lingo?

2005-04-14 Thread Bill Stewart
On 4/14/05, Dan Lockwood <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > We have 4 DS3s and an OC3 which SBC provides to us via a Nortel mux that > they placed on our premise. The OC3 we have now is hooked up to their > ATM network to connect up some other high speed sites. On the actual > bill for that OC3 it sho

Re: Anyone familiar with the SBC product lingo?

2005-04-14 Thread Bill Stewart
On 4/14/05, Stephen J. Wilcox <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > you'll never get better redundancy than having more than one carrier. One carrier can often tell if two circuits they're providing you are on the same route, and can develop processes for building circuits that are not only instal

Re: Router choice for medium size hosting provider

2005-04-13 Thread Bill Stewart
Cisco's web site has a Miercom report http://www.cisco.com/application/pdf/en/us/guest/products/ps5854/c1244/cdccont_0900aecd8017382b.pdf that tested a bidirectional UDP flow between two 10/100 ports, with big IP packets, firewall and NAT running and logging turned on, and they got 130 Mbps. Yo

Re: Please Check Filters - BOGON Filtering IP Space 72.14.128.0/19

2005-01-21 Thread Bill Stewart
On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 20:16:14 +0530, Suresh Ramasubramanian <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Analogies suck, but look at (for example) Norton AntiVirus. You pay > for a year of virus definition updates. Then when the year runs out, > Symantec is not going to give you a single new virus definition eve

Re: Spammers ordered to pay $1 billion

2004-12-20 Thread Bill Stewart
They did sue 300 spammers, so it's possible that some of them are still around, either as individual proprietors or as corporate entities, but they're only responsible for their individual spamming totals, not the whole billion. Most of the billion dollars was in two big awards, and the other numb

Re: what's a good way to annoy the hell out of somebody at chello.be?

2004-11-05 Thread Bill Stewart
On Fri, 05 Nov 2004 17:54:03 +, Paul Vixie <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > a customer of chello.be has been repeating a dns dynamic update against my > zone every four minutes since october 20. chello's abuse reporting channel > is no doubt full of spam reports. their noc no doubt doesn't care

Re: Finding information about metro private line service in downtown SF

2004-10-31 Thread Bill Stewart
On Wed, 27 Oct 2004 19:32:15 -0700, Bill Garrison <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > Calling SBC provided me with a rather clueless person telling me all > about ATM, Frame Relay and other options I don't want. > To his credit, I believe I may have been defining what I want incorrectly. > Since both a

Re: ICMP weirdness

2004-10-18 Thread Bill Stewart
part of their company, but all I really know about it is that cable companies have a history of doing funky things, particularly with NAT, which is one of many reasons I use DSL at home instead of cable modems. And this posting is strictly my private speculation, not my employer's. Bill Stewart

Re: short Botnet list and Cashing in on DoS

2004-10-11 Thread Bill Stewart
On Sun, 10 Oct 2004 15:06:17 -0400, James Baldwin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > Pardon for my possibly ill informed interjection. I was under the > impression that the current wind was blowing towards filtering outbound > port 25 traffic while allowing outbound authenticated port 587 traffic? >

Re: Blackhole Routes

2004-10-01 Thread Bill Stewart
On Thu, 30 Sep 2004 10:35:36 -0400, Eric Germann <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > What I would to see (and have never researched in depth) is a way to apply > the blackhole routes on a community to port basis (i.e. we set up a specific > BGP community to filter mail, and that community goes to a route

Re: OT- need a new GSM provider

2004-09-03 Thread Bill Stewart
AT&T spun off AT&T Wireless a couple of years ago, and the spinoff is renting the brand name and the Death Star logo, and probably buys a bunch of network and telco service from AT&T but is otherwise unconnected. As a stockholder of the spinoff company, I'm disappointed though not surprised that