It doesn't matter who wrote:
If you don't find network operations to be relevant, then by all
means STOP POSTING TO THE GOD DAMNED NETWORK OPERATIONS MAILING LIST.
Some of those, particularly those who *gasp* run networks, still find
it relevent. If there is this much disagreement about your p
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And if anyone else here thinks they know what is
on topic, please tell us.
I am getting bored by the flood of negative messages
that say only "You can't say that here". Please stop
telling us what you cannot say on NANOG. If you really
must register your discontent wi
Paul Vixie wrote:
fyi:
My mail reader can sanitize HTML mail for me, but it was stymied by this
one. What is it?
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[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
More to the point, why punish the entire list by bickering about a
minority
Because this is NANOG, and NANOG is very careful to limit the traffic to
stuff that is On Topic.
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I too despise HTML, but in a failing effort to find email useful, I use
a reader that converts HTML to text for me (it is amazing what computers
can do these days).
Here is the result of my reader's handiwork.
Original Message
Subject:Re: Removal of my name
Date:
Don Welch, Merit Network wrote:
This issue is unique and does not represent a blanket policy. Any
request to modify the archive is a serious issue that requires
consultation with the Steering Committee and must be balanced against
the loss of archive integrity.
Right here is the heart of the
Johnny Eriksson wrote:
"D'Arcy J.M. Cain" wrote:
If we were still calling central and asking "Hi Mabel, can you put me
through to Doc," no one would give a rat's ass about phone number
portability. Notice that no one is getting worked up about circuit
number portability.
... or street n
william(at)elan.net wrote:
You need to have protocol to map it from. HTTP is not a protocol but
^
type of transport of initial email submission data to a submission
server.
Really?!
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Yeah. Don't want any operational stuff here. Need to get back to who's
got a free 300-baud dialup in Antwerp.
Hank Nussbacher wrote:
At 07:27 AM 07-09-06 -0400, Mike Walter wrote:
Best moved to cisco-nsp.
-Hank Nussbacher
http://www.interall.co.il
Good morning everyone. I just wanted
Henry Linneweh wrote:
Every where I go that uses MySql is hozed and I can not access the pages
-Henry
Say! _There_ is an On Topic, Operationsal posting!
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Joseph S D Yao wrote:
On Wed, Aug 23, 2006 at 11:51:34AM -0400, J. Oquendo wrote:
Can someone from Qwest shoot me an email. I have a PSTN carrier routing
VoIP now and they're telling me your routing tables became corrupt or
something. Calls have been "a" dropping.
=
Can a Qwest engineer send me an offlist email pertaining to a DS3.
Oh goody a genuine on-topic one liner, with 13 lines of .sig.
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Derek J. Balling wrote:
On Aug 14, 2006, at 12:43 PM, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
Who forwards NANOG posts to a blogger gateway? You, me, and a claw-
hammer need to have a chat.
Not me, but what is interesting is that I've not seen any evidence of
that when I post.
Are you
Derek J. Balling wrote:
Who forwards NANOG posts to a blogger gateway? You, me, and a claw-
hammer need to have a chat.
Not me, but what is interesting is that I've not seen any evidence of
that when I post.
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Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
David Schwartz wrote:
Nonsense. You have tort obligations as well as contractual
obligations.
Specifically, if you take custody of someone else's data, and you have no
contract with that person, you have a tort obligation not to destroy it.
David Schwartz wrote:
Nonsense. You have tort obligations as well as contractual obligations.
Specifically, if you take custody of someone else's data, and you have no
contract with that person, you have a tort obligation not to destroy it.
The nonsense is here! I am not a lawyer, bu
Scott Morris wrote:
"E-mail rest in peace?
That is what I tried to indicate.
An exchange somewhere (I can't now find it) went something like:
God is dead - Nietzsche
Nietzsche is dead - God
Email is dead - Larry
To which I added that it will someday be
Larry is dead - Email
joe mcguckin wrote:
Why not put critical or proprietary files on a flash key? I carry a 4G
flash key on my keyring. Airport security has never given it a second
look. If the laptop ends up in the hands of a sticky-fingered baggage
handler (or the TSA), there's nothing there for them to find.
Sean Donelan wrote:
On Sun, 13 Aug 2006, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
This morning's Omaha Weird Harold has a front-page item about the City
installing free wiffy hotspots around town. It may be time for you to
reconsider the options on the buggy-whip plant.
Any information abou
Danny McPherson wrote:
On Aug 13, 2006, at 8:35 AM, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
Danny McPherson wrote:
As importantly, broadband SPs are trying to move to triple (quad)
play services, how tolerant do you think your average subscriber
is to losing cable television services because
Danny McPherson wrote:
As importantly, broadband SPs are trying to move to triple (quad)
play services, how tolerant do you think your average subscriber is
to losing cable television services because their kid downloaded some
malware?
At least one of us would applaud an effort to hold people
Michael Nicks wrote:
Do we all really believe this laptop ban will last? I sure don't.
I think there are two issues in this thread -- this must refer to the
air travel bans. I don't know, but I'll bet it not only persists, it
will get worse.
The other issue has to do with the trend to th
Joseph S D Yao wrote:
On Sat, Aug 12, 2006 at 02:28:33AM +, Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Joseph S D Yao wrote:
Do modern laptops have disk drives that are that hard to remove?
one screw and 'pop' out comes all dell laptop harddrives... or boot from
cd, usb->copy
Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. (that is me) wrote:
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Joseph S D Yao wrote:
Do modern laptops have disk drives that are that hard to remove?
one screw and 'pop' out comes all dell laptop harddrives... or boot from
cd, usb->copy all dat
Christopher L. Morrow wrote:
On Fri, 11 Aug 2006, Joseph S D Yao wrote:
Do modern laptops have disk drives that are that hard to remove?
one screw and 'pop' out comes all dell laptop harddrives... or boot from
cd, usb->copy all data, slide back into case and move on to next.
you have 2 hou
Joseph S D Yao wrote:
Do modern laptops have disk drives that are that hard to remove?
Let us say "No, they are not that hard to remove."
Now what? (Recall that this thread started with a situation where it
was said that carry-on was limited to passport, medicine in small
quantities, and
Steve Sobol wrote:
Allan Poindexter wrote:
Matthew> so would you consider as it is my network, that I should
Matthew> not be allowed to impose these 'draconian' methods and
Matthew> perhaps I shouldn't be allowed to censor traffic to and
Matthew> from my networks?
If you want to run a ne
Michael Nicks wrote:
Actually I think this thread progressed from someone getting dirty
blocks, to complaining about liberal-listing-RBLs (yes SORBS is one), to
RBLs defending themselves and their obviously broken practices. We
should not have to jump through hoops to satisfy your requirement
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote:
I doubt we're "famous". How are you going to be able to tell they
aren't parked? Pull up the web page on a few domains to see what they
look like? Check all 1000 manually? Half?
Whose business is it. Who cares?
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Randy Bush wrote:
i know this will come as a shock, but there ar eother uses for domain
names than web sites
Surely you jest! Surely a domain with no listener on port 80 or 25 is
not a legitimate domain.
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Allen Parker wrote:
I really
wish more people would stand up to aol and explain to them that their
spam filtering stuff is ineffective as well as annoying.
I for one really wish the service providers of the world had been
willing to deal with the spam problem when it first arose.
That som
Brandon Galbraith wrote:
My assumption is that it means "it isn't going to keep things cold, but it
will keep the air flowing to prevent a 'server sauna'".
On 7/25/06, Sam Stickland <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -Original Message-
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED
Jon Lewis wrote:
On Sat, 31 Jul 2004, Jesper Skriver wrote:
On Fri, Jul 30, 2004 at 10:21:06AM -0700, Dan Lockwood wrote:
I'm in a debate with a guy over the use of 'ip address x.x.x.x s.s.s.s
secondary' on Cisco gear. I seem to remember reading that the use of
secondary addresses is a bad idea, b
Scott Weeks wrote:
On Thu, 29 Jul 2004, Sean Donelan wrote:
: As NANOG has experienced during the last several meetings, in any network
: used by a large number of people, there will be a certain percentage of
: people which bring infected computers into the network.
:
: http://www.nytimes.com/2004
Paul Vixie wrote:
on the other hand, if you do this for a nameserver that your customers
depend on, then there is probably some liability for either trademark
infringement, tortious interference with prospective economic advantage,
and the gods alone know what else. if you do this, keep it to a s
Good, honest to ${D**ty} Operational Content?
sadly not
Randy Bush wrote:
Sending a "break" to a 2511? Now _there_ is an operational
issue! (Wonder if he knows you have to plug a VT52 in to make it work?)
damned hard to do from big island when the machine is in the
seattle westin
What happened when you read the manual?
Todd Mitchell - lists wrote:
On 26/07/2004 11:28 AM Marco Davids (SARA) wrote:
Google seems to fail on every search containing the word 'mail' ?
hhmmm...is this somehow related to network operational issues? Have a
problem with googleemail google not nanog.
Perish forbid! Viruses? spam? D
Nicole wrote:
A company I work with (who's servers are located in the San Jose, CA) is
looking to setup some backup servers at a datacenter whose connectivity and
location is off any faultline, or away from other malady, that might effect its
main servers datacenter or connectivity. Problem is, th
Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Sat, 3 Jul 2004, Randy Bush wrote:
no. in the first case, you're just hiding the incremental costs.
eventually, some bean counter is gonna want to recover them, and
then folk get quite unhappy.
What costs are you referring to? You basically need a few hours time per
Johnny Eriksson wrote:
"Fergie (Paul Ferguson)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
Regardless, this is not a telephony issue ("Can I take my cell
number with me?"), as the courts as seem disposed to diagnose
these days, but rather, a technical one insofar as the IP routing
table efficiency.
No, this is n
Charles Sprickman wrote:
"even though we null route the destination IP being attacked, this traffic
will be billed".
Jared Mauch wrote:
I think the question is truly this:
some of the dns responses that i saw had low ttls, should
they use a longer ttl?
the problems i saw were related to the data expiring from the cache,
some of this is to workaround broken clients/resolvers that will "lat
Mark Radabaugh wrote:
But you don't say how to avoid failures caused by massive confusion when
maintaining a excessively complicated system
I don't have much to offer for the "excessively complicated" case
(which I think the instant case is an example of), but there are
cases as complex and com
Owen DeLong wrote:
No... The negligent ISPs end up with all the abusing customers and have a
hard time getting transit themselves. Eventually, you end up with two
internets... One run by and for the abusers and negligent, one for everyone
else. I have no problem with that.
There should be a twelv
Randy Bush wrote:
I think unassigned ports should be dropped from
routing tables
your wish is the internet's comman. ports are no longer
in routing tables.
Thank you
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Microsoft-SQL-Monitor
ms-sql-m 1434/udp Microsoft-SQL-Monitor
# 6851-6887 Unassigned
monkeycom 9898/tcp MonkeyCom
monkeycom 9898/udp MonkeyCom
And I need a list that shows who or what owns Dynamic
and/or Private Ports
-Henry
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/tcp Microsoft-SQL-Monitor
ms-sql-m 1434/udp Microsoft-SQL-Monitor
# 6851-6887 Unassigned
monkeycom 9898/tcp MonkeyCom
monkeycom 9898/udp MonkeyCom
And I need a list that shows who or what owns Dynamic
and/or Private Ports
-Henry
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My last on the topic--maybe even the list.
I take the responsibilty for a number of things, depending on
the topic of the discussion.
In the case of email conversations, particularly email
converations on mailing lists, I think there are
responsibilites on the author to:
Delete all the baggage that
Paul Jakma wrote:
On Fri, 11 Jun 2004, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
Really? My responsibility to make sure you control your outbound
mail. Got it.
You really think everyone on this list should remember the preference of
every other poster as to whether they do or do not want a direct copy
Andy Dills wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
Jeff Shultz wrote:
But ultimately, _you_ are responsible for your own systems.
Even if the water company is sending me 85% TriChlorEthane?
Right. Got it. The victim is always responsible.
There you have it folks.
Change
Paul Jakma wrote:
On Thu, 10 Jun 2004, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
Why do I have to get two and three copies of each of these?
Because you havn't set a Reply-To header? Eg with the list as address?
I'm on the list folks, if you send it to the list I'll get it. I
don'
David Schwartz wrote:
On Jun 10, 2004, at 2:06 PM, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
The "victim" in the case Sean posted knew he had a worm, got some of
his first bill forgiven, yet did nothing to correct it and acts
surprised when the same thing happens the next month. YES, he i
Andy Dills wrote:
Keep in mind, this guy's ISP, like many (most?) ISPs would do, gave the
guy a serious break on the first jaw-dropping bill.
Why do I have to get two and three copies of each of these? I'm on
the list folks, if you send it to the list I'll get it. I don't need
a copy to the list
Jeff Shultz wrote:
But ultimately, _you_ are responsible for your own systems.
Even if the water company is sending me 85% TriChlorEthane?
Right. Got it. The victim is always responsible.
There you have it folks.
Sean Donelan wrote:
Does the water company fix your toilet if it leaks water? Or do you call
a plumber?
On the other hand, if the water company was sending pollutants in the
water you bought, there was a perceived responsibility upon the water
company.
Now, which broken metaphor (leaky toilet, pol
Michel Py wrote:
SD> That's less than $400 per defective motherboard.
SD> Your paper estimates it would cost more than double
SD> to replace a scrambled BIOS.
Edward B. Dreger
Definitely sounds high, especially considering the
cheap end with socketed a DIPP BIOS: Boot from
"loaner" BIOS chip. Remo
Jon R. Kibler wrote:
Why no filtering by ISPs? "Because it takes resources and only benefits
the other guy" -- unless your network is the one under attack.
There you have the "operational" issue in a nutshell.
No dime, no do.
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Vinny Abello wrote:
At 11:07 AM 5/31/2004, Mike Nice wrote:
>It seems to be another stupid Microsoft Exploit that just
>causes annoyance for Unix Boxes.
>The only side effect is they fill my dmesg logs with
>signal 11's from apache crashing.
Am I the only one that sees the irony that Apache seg
Neil J. McRae wrote:
I've seen compelling evidence over the past two years that clearly shows
some carriers who have sold well below cost who then also went into chapter
11.
Fascinating discovery, that. What on earth will happen to us if _that_
word leaks out?!??!
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Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
And someone would then start another thread about BCP 38 on nanog ...
funny how several threads turn into a thread about spoofed source
address filtering in no time at all :)
Let the record reflect the fact that it was not I who did that this
time. I forgot where
Chris Brenton wrote:
On Tue, 2004-05-11 at 18:15, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
As an ex-admin, I have some "serious issues" about the way Spamcop
works, but this argument is similar to one that says a credit reporting
company has to prove that you are a deadbeat before reporting th
Chris Brenton wrote:
Further, Spamcop should implement some form of check to verify that the
e-mail is in fact spam before they go pointing the finger and/or
blocking mail servers. The problem of end users leveraging Spamcop to
get them off of mailing lists or a simple way of DoSsing a discussion
JC Dill wrote:
It could also simply be a mistake. The inet-access list was once
reported as a spam source by a happy subscriber who was busy reporting
hundreds (or thousands?) of spams and clicked /included a list post by
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Eric Gauthier wrote:
Heya,
I'm spec'ing out a project that involves some large-scale video conferencing
and collaboration amoung several locations. The ones in the US are looking
to use AccessGrid software, which we're anticipating will be about an 11Mbps
peak load. Anyone know if its possible
Jeff Shultz wrote:
So instead of trying to determine what percentage of internet traffic
is junk, why don't we set up categories (I saw someone make a start at
it a couple of messages back) and figure out what percentage of traffic
fits under each category. We can come up with our own opinions as t
William B. Norton wrote:
With all the spam, infected e-mails, DOS attacks, ultimately blackholed
traffic, etc. I wonder if there has been a study that quantifies
What percentage of the Internet traffic is junk?
I don't know the answer in any case, but I would need a definition
for "Internet traff
Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
However, up to 90% of the users *are* stupid:
Or is it possible there are other explanations?
Don Norman has argued quite eloquently that it's a technology and human
factors failure -- see, for example,
http://www.interesting-people.org/archives/interesting-people/20031
chuck goolsbee wrote:
However, up to 90% of the users *are* stupid:
Seriosuly though, the Internet might be a better place for it. After
all, 90% of those "stupid" people just want email and HTTP.
Do we have a pointer to a rigorous study that indicates either
assertion?
Or is it possible there ar
Sean Donelan wrote:
On Sat, 10 Apr 2004, Scott Call wrote:
My point was that my $20 GE telephone cannot be made into a liability for
my telephone provider without my explicit participation, whereas a $20 a
month dialup (or $50 a month DSL, etc) customer can be a liability for me
just by being tur
Robert Blayzor wrote:
Chris Boyd wrote:
NTL World no longer accepts abuse@ email. You have to go to a web
form that requires javascript be enabled and enter all of the
information for them. I guess that they got tired of processing the
the abuse@ mail load and just bit bucketed it.
I'm late
Scott Stursa wrote:
Two (possibly related?) phenomena:
1. Nothing from NANOG since yesterday.
2. .org TLD names not resolving
Maybe a local (to here) problem, but I thought I'd inquire before I start
looking into it.
Interesting. Cox Central mail was dead from about 1300 Central
yesterday unti
Sean Donelan wrote:
Why do people have the irresitable urge to click on things?
Then he wrote:
Click here to find out:
What is wrong with this picture?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/articles/A349-2004Apr9.html
The experts advised people not to click on strange attachments in
e-mail
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
for those who tire of the increasing complexity of email(*)
may I recommend /usr/ucb/mail - a (relatively) small, lightweight
MUA.
(*) plus attachments, video/audio clips, goofy fonts, textured/scented "stationary",
et.al.
and/or POP/IMAP, procmail, spamassa
Douglas F. Calvert wrote:
On Wed, 2004-03-31 at 19:59, Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
On Wed, 31 Mar 2004, Douglas F. Calvert wrote:
I am interested in finding out what the motivation is for requiring
valid reverse address lookups before connecting to a daemon. I have
heard a number of different expla
David Lesher wrote:
Side thought, but not a NANOG topic. What in your data center
really cares if your generator puts out 57 or 63 Hz, not 60.0?
Why?
Some clocks get a little nutso. Because they are powered by
AC synchronous motors with gearing that assumes 60 Hz. (or
50 Hz, as the case might b
Doug Dever wrote:
Previously, Daniel Senie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) wrote:
An additional note: some of the small to mid-sized propane/natural gas
units come as packaged systems with a generator and transfer switch. These
can be a good value and work well too. Do some shopping.
The obvious caveat
Patrick Muldoon wrote:
On Monday 29 March 2004 01:26 pm, Brian (nanog-list) wrote:
Does anyone know of a way to get a UPS to trigger a generator to start, and
to switch over to the generator power automatically or does this type of
thing just not exist?
I think you are looking at it wrong, you n
Brian (nanog-list) wrote:
Does anyone know of a way to get a UPS to trigger a generator to start, and
to switch over to the generator power automatically or does this type of
thing just not exist?
Find somebody with Internet Access and a "browser--go to Google.com,
enter "generator backup ups" i
Howard C. Berkowitz wrote:
At 6:58 AM -0800 3/29/04, Michel Py wrote:
> Maybe I'm the only one left who sees a need to be
able to check on things from a vt100 at a remote site.
You are not. A telnet version without all the fluffy bullshit would be
more than welcome.
I suppose it's trivial
Steven M. Bellovin wrote:
In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Daniel Golding writes:
Slightly off-topic...
Most technical fields have standard journals that they use to publish
interesting findings and new ways of doing things. Everything from Nature to
the JAMA. Here's the question for the group: Do
Paul Jakma wrote:
America is undoubtedly the preeminent driving force today
economically for technological/scientific progress, as once was the
British Empire, as once was the Arab world, as once was the Roman
Empire, as once was... etc.. etc.. etc..
Yes it is off topic (what ever that turns out
W.D.McKinney wrote:
On Wed, 2004-03-03 at 14:52, Eric Kuhnke wrote:
I have heard rumors of a new low-end 1U Juniper router, aimed directly
at replacing the 2600/3600 series. Supposedly its code name is
"Pepsi"... Does anyone have more info on this? :-)
No, but hope so.
Dee
I mention this
Peter Galbavy wrote:
Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
Peter Galbavy wrote:
OK, it isn't secret - since I know about it for a start - but the
terms are secret and also it is very under-advertised to the locals.
Wonder what other countries have sold their souls to Satan ?
How many dead sol
Peter Galbavy wrote:
OK, it isn't secret - since I know about it for a start - but the terms are
secret and also it is very under-advertised to the locals. Wonder what other
countries have sold their souls to Satan ?
How many dead soldiers from your country are buried here?
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Peter Galbavy wrote:
Alexei Roudnev wrote:
Of course, not - he is not from USA (more likely), the end.
Why people believe, that this acts means ANYTHING? In Internet, they
(acts) means NOTHING.
Unless they live in a country that has a "secret" treaty with the US, like
the UK has had for some ye
Curtis Maurand wrote:
Then anyone can walk up to the machine and get onto the network simply by
turning on the machine.
The system you're looking for involve biometrics or smartcards. Firewalls
between student and administration areas would be a good idea as well.
It must be dreadful to wor
People keep asking me "why don't you take that off list?"
I have a suggestion: say instead "STFU"--it is easier to type.
And that is the net effect, because every attempt to take an item
off-list results in something like the following.
I can not really figure out what the problem is.
Jay Hennigan wrote:
Is it just me that they don't like?
I've seen one or two other reports.
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ren wrote:
Stop it children. The thousands of people on this mailing list do not
need to watch this road kill. -ren
Some where it was ineffectively written that if you stop responding to
them, and particularly, if you stop endorsing the crap by quoting it
all verbatim over your signature, they
Pete Templin wrote:
Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
Pete Templin wrote:
There's a reason I've gotten out of small ISP consulting - I don't do
Windows, and I'm getting overrun by Linux corrosion slowly. I route,
I switch, I help with securing networks. And I do wear a lo
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. [3/15/2004 7:39 PM] :
If you were willing to live in a place where an electrical overload
caused a fire (as opposed to tripping a circuit-breaker or blowing a
fuse), you have not correctly identified your worst problem, or the
the
Pete Templin wrote:
> Employee to PHB: "You hired me to provide core network engineering and
lead the level 2 network ops staff. Tell me again why you want me to
provide any server engineering, if you knew my strengths when you hired
me?"
There's a reason I've gotten out of small ISP consulti
Ken Diliberto wrote:
Something else I just remembered:
Connecting so much equipment in our dorms creates a fire hazard. The
are only two or three outlets (what I've been told) in a room shared by
two or three students. Add to the computer equipment a TV, stereo, DVD
player, alarm clocks, cor
Suresh Ramasubramanian wrote:
And what is wrong with setting up a hub or something in a dormroom? I
find it quite convenient to leave both my PC and a laptop running on my
desk, for various reasons (too many open terminals and windows is one of
them ...)
I've been trying to figure out what is
Stephen Sprunk wrote:
Thus spake "Vivien M." <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Actually, you're forgetting what I think is the biggest reason for doing
this: before the user registers via the web-based DHCP thing, they
are shown the AUP and have to say they agree to it. If you just leave
straight IP connection
Stephen J. Wilcox wrote:
IMHO avoid multihoming. You will know when you are big enough and you *need* to
do it, if you're not sure or you only want to do it cause you heard everyone
else is and its real cool then I suggest you dont.
There _is_ another element that I tried to point to yesterday.
william(at)elan.net wrote:
On Thu, 11 Mar 2004, Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
Petri Helenius wrote:
Maybe there is a lesson to be learned from many RBL operators. To make
sure, just send packets to the whole /24 or /16 you got an "attack"
packet from.
Which RBL operators flood /2
Petri Helenius wrote:
Maybe there is a lesson to be learned from many RBL operators. To make
sure, just send packets to the whole /24 or /16 you got an "attack"
packet from.
Which RBL operators flood /24's or /16's? What do they flood them
with?
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Eric Gauthier wrote:
Most Universities have a large clueless.. um, I mean, student population
sitting on 10 or 100 meg switched ports and several hundred meg's to the
Internet
You mis-spelled "faculty, researcher, and staff populations".
Today's students (as well as non-trivial portions of t
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