RE: Source address validation

2004-03-09 Thread Lumenello, Jason
I think the argument taken up for or against uRPF-loose deployment depends largely on the ability of the provider to implement it without 1) performance impact or 2) network upgrades. Argument against it on the grounds of I can't accurately measure its value is a smoke screen. We have

RE: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS

2004-03-04 Thread Lumenello, Jason
minutes or less. Now is a response the opening of a ticket or the null routing of the attack traffic in 15 minutes? Jason -Original Message- From: Suresh Ramasubramanian [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 7:21 PM To: Randy Bush Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Lumenello

RE: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS

2004-03-04 Thread Lumenello, Jason
and accept more than just /32's within their address space. FWIW. Also, we are utilizing Juniper's DCU for tracebacks, which makes life MUCH easier when tracing an attack. :-) SNMP polling the DCU counters every few minutes is relatively fast and painless, and provides quick results. Mark Lumenello

RE: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS

2004-03-04 Thread Lumenello, Jason
-Original Message- From: Christopher L. Morrow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, March 04, 2004 11:50 AM To: Lumenello, Jason Cc: Suresh Ramasubramanian; Randy Bush; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS On Thu, 4 Mar 2004, Lumenello

RE: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS

2004-03-03 Thread Lumenello, Jason
XO set up a similar customer community last year for our customers to trigger their own black hole at our edge. There is no such thing as an original idea. :) This promised response probably means if you press 3 on your phone, you will get a CSR to open a ticket within 15 minutes. Sounds like

RE: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS

2004-03-03 Thread Lumenello, Jason
I struggled with this, and came up with the following. We basically use a standard route-map for all customers where the first term looks for the community. The customer also has a prefix-list on their neighbor statement allowing their blocks le /32. The following terms (term 2 and above) in the

RE: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS

2004-03-03 Thread Lumenello, Jason
restrictions or maintain two sets of customer prefix/access lists. Jason -Original Message- From: Lumenello, Jason Sent: Wednesday, March 03, 2004 4:52 PM To: 'Stephen J. Wilcox'; james Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: RE: UUNet Offer New Protection Against DDoS I struggled