Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update]

2008-04-15 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:43 AM, William Herrin wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 8:34 AM, Rich Kulawiec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Automation is far less important than clue. Attempting to compensate for lack of a sufficient number of sufficiently-intelligent, experienced, diligent staff with

Re: Abuse response [Was: RE: Yahoo Mail Update]

2008-04-15 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Apr 15, 2008, at 10:31 AM, William Herrin wrote: On Tue, Apr 15, 2008 at 10:00 AM, Marshall Eubanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Apr 15, 2008, at 9:43 AM, William Herrin wrote: That is one place that modern antispam efforts fall apart. It's the same problem that afflicts tech support

Re: spam wanted :)

2008-04-10 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Apr 10, 2008, at 9:35 AM, William Waites wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 08:55:21AM -0400, Rich Kulawiec wrote: On Thu, Apr 10, 2008 at 06:32:53PM +0900, Randy Bush wrote: for a measurement experiment, i would like O(100k) *headers* from spam from europe and a similar sample from the

Re: Dubai impound ships suspected in cable damage

2008-04-08 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Apr 8, 2008, at 7:57 PM, Deepak Jain wrote: There is no reason to assume these are civilian satellites. Any one of a number of affected or interested countries could have provided the imagery (or ship information) to Reliance. Its not saying *who* analyzed the images. ;) Then

Re: Superfast internet may replace world wide web

2008-04-07 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Apr 7, 2008, at 11:36 AM, Thomas Kernen wrote: Bill Woodcock wrote: On Mon, 7 Apr 2008, Glen Kent wrote: says the solemn headline of Telegraph. .. and we in Nanog are still discussing IPv6! ;-) It's because we don't have a hadron demolition derby to power our American

Re: Superfast internet may replace world wide web

2008-04-07 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Apr 7, 2008, at 1:00 PM, Kevin Oberman wrote: Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2008 20:21:26 +0530 From: Glen Kent [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sender: [EMAIL PROTECTED] says the solemn headline of Telegraph. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2008/04/06/ninternet106.xml Also related to this

Re: rack power question

2008-03-25 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Mar 25, 2008, at 11:15 AM, Brian Raaen wrote: Russia (or the USSR at that time) used to use liquid graphite to cool their nuclear reactors, even thought it was flammable of course that was what they were using in Chernobyl. The RBMK-1000 used graphite for moderation and water

Re: rack power question

2008-03-23 Thread Marshall Eubanks
The interesting thing is how in a way we seem to have come full circle. I am sure lots of people can remember large rooms full of racks of vacuum tube equipment, which required serious power and cooling. On one NASA project I worked on, when the vacuum tube stuff was replaced by solid

Re: Customer-facing ACLs

2008-03-18 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Mar 18, 2008, at 3:58 PM, Andy Davidson wrote: On 7 Mar 2008, at 23:57, Scott Weeks wrote: Might as well do TCP 20, 21 and 23, too. Woah, that slope's getting slippery! Oh, no, this one again. *** The Internet Is Not The Web. *** Could someone put that onto a t-shirt ? If it

Re: NANOG laptops (was Re: Customer-facing ACLs)

2008-03-09 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Mar 9, 2008, at 3:21 PM, David Conrad wrote: Hi, On Mar 8, 2008, at 2:40 PM, William Norton wrote: I was quite surprised to see the large number of Mac laptops at NANOG 42. I didn't do a formal count but it seemed like about 1/4 to 1/3 of the laptops in use were Macs. ...You know,

Re: wanted: server hotel location(s) in SE,GR

2008-02-28 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Feb 28, 2008, at 3:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I was wondering if anyone knew of server hotel locations in Sweden I would recommend Netnod in Sweden. Kurtis Lindqvist is a good contact there. Regards Marshall or Greece. More generally, if there is a good resource for me

Re: Cogent Issue anyone?

2008-02-10 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Not at Switch and Data, Tyco Road, Tysons Corner. Regards Marshall On Feb 10, 2008, at 11:27 AM, Andre Reid wrote: Hi All, Anyone having issues with Cogent right now? I'm seeing problems in DC area, opening a ticket with them right now. Thx, Andre Andre Reid 617/904-5018 [EMAIL

Re: Video Conferencing: Products, and Issues with Network Bandwidth and Security

2008-02-08 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Hello; There are some things you need to think through. (I am CTO at Iformata Communications, and this is our core competency.) - Point to point only, or multipoint ? Multipoint will mean MCU's. - Webcams or professional gear (like Polycom HDX 8000 HD video) or telepresence ? (Over an

Re: Fourth cable damaged in Middle Eest (Qatar to UAE)

2008-02-03 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Dear Sean; Do you know how Syria, Jordan and Lebanon get their connectivity ? They have dropped off the map today for us. (Or maybe yesterday - I wasn't able to pay any attention to this yesterday.) Our Egyptian audience remains very low, while Iran still seems to be unaffected.

Re: Sicily to Egypt undersea cable disruption

2008-01-30 Thread Marshall Eubanks
What I see from our Cogent transit is that Egypt has completely fallen off the map, with a normally consistent traffic gone to zero, but traffic to Iran, Iraq, the GCC, India and Pakistan and even Yemen doesn't seem to be affected, at least not noticeably. Regards Marshall On Jan 31,

Re: Lessons from the AU model

2008-01-21 Thread Marshall Eubanks
OK, I give and admit my ignorance. What does MLP mean in this context ? A google search for Australia mlp reveals many hits for My Little Pony, which somehow I doubt is the intended meaning on this list. A proper reference would be appreciated. Regards Marshall On Jan 21, 2008, at

Re: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial

2008-01-20 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 19, 2008, at 3:25 PM, Rod Beck wrote: If service is metered, it doesn't imply 25 cents a minute. It would probably be based on bytes transferred and would probably be less expensive for the bulk of users than the current flat rate pricing. If the cable companies are telling the

Re: An Attempt at Economically Rational Pricing: Time Warner Trial

2008-01-20 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 20, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Joe Greco wrote: However, if you look, all the prepaid plans that I've seen look suspiciously like predatory pricing. The price per minute is substantially higher than an equivalent minute on a conventional plan. Picking on ATT, for a minute, here, look at

Re: ISPs slowing P2P traffic...

2008-01-13 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 13, 2008, at 3:50 PM, Joe Greco wrote: It may. Some of those other things will, too. I picked 1) and 2) as examples where things could actually get busy for long stretches of time. The wireless ISP business is a bit of a special case in this regard, where P2P traffic is

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL leased line customers

2007-12-29 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Dec 27, 2007, at 11:19 PM, Mark Smith wrote: On Fri, 28 Dec 2007 12:57:45 +0900 Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ever calculated how many Ethernet nodes you can attach to a single LAN with 2^46 unicast addresses? you mean operationally successfully, or just for marketing

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL leased line customers

2007-12-27 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Dec 27, 2007, at 9:50 PM, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: Leo Bicknell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message written on Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 10:57:59PM +0100, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: It is wih IPv6: you just connect the ethernet cable and the RAs take care of the rest. _You_ _really_

Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets

2007-10-25 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Oct 25, 2007, at 6:49 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 24-okt-2007, at 17:39, Rod Beck wrote: A simpler and hence less costly approach for those providers serving mass markets is to stick to flat rate pricing and outlaw high-bandwidth applications that are used by only a small

Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?

2007-10-25 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Oct 25, 2007, at 12:24 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Rep. Boucher's solution: more capacity, even though it has been demonstrated many times more capacity doesn't actually solve this particular problem. Where has it been proven that adding capacity won't solve the P2P bandwidth problem?

Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?

2007-10-25 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Oct 25, 2007, at 1:09 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: On Thu, 25 Oct 2007, Marshall Eubanks wrote: I have raised this issue with P2P promoters, and they all feel that the limit will be about at the limit of what people can watch (i.e., full rate video for whatever duration they want to watch

Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?

2007-10-23 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Oct 23, 2007, at 7:18 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 22-okt-2007, at 18:12, Sean Donelan wrote: Network operators probably aren't operating from altruistic principles, but for most network operators when the pain isn't spread equally across the the customer base it represents a

Re: Can P2P applications learn to play fair on networks?

2007-10-23 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Oct 23, 2007, at 9:07 AM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 23-okt-2007, at 14:52, Marshall Eubanks wrote: I also would like to see a UDP scavenger service, for those applications that generate lots of bits but can tolerate fairly high packet losses without replacement. (VLBI

Re: BitTorrent swarms have a deadly bite on broadband nets

2007-10-21 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Note that this is from 2006. Do you have a link to the actual paper, by Terry Shaw, of CableLabs, and Jim Martin of Clemson ? Regards Marshall On Oct 21, 2007, at 1:03 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: http://www.multichannel.com/article/CA6332098.html The short answer: Badly. Based on the

Re: Cogent peering issues with Sprint

2007-10-10 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Oct 10, 2007, at 10:38 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated message reports that they have a backbone problem causing latency, but they also seem to be experiencing peering problems with Sprint. Are you sure that this is not

Re: Cogent peering issues with Sprint

2007-10-10 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Oct 10, 2007, at 10:51 AM, Basil Kruglov wrote: On Wed, Oct 10, 2007 at 09:38:42AM -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cogent is experiencing two problems right now. Their automated message reports that they have a backbone problem causing latency, but they also seem to be experiencing

Re: Why do some ISP's have bandwidth quotas?

2007-10-10 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Oct 10, 2007, at 5:18 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Wed, 10 Oct 2007, Joe Greco wrote: One of the biggest challenges for the Internet has got to be the steadily increasing storage market, combined with the continued development of small, portable processors for every application,

Re: New TransPacific Cable Projects:

2007-09-22 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Sep 22, 2007, at 5:26 AM, Rod Beck wrote: It is not obvious to me that there is a Pacific cable capacity glut. For example, I sold a DS3 from LA to Hong Kong for $6K MRC whereas the last time a wholesale TransAtlantic DS3 rivaled that figure was 2001. Not to mention that the

Re: ticket research

2007-09-20 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Dear Randy; On Sep 20, 2007, at 11:44 AM, Randy Bush wrote: a respected researcher (with a grad student) i trust wants to obtain trouble ticket logs from different networks to understand the nature of failures in ISP networks. we hope that this analysis will help us develop troubleshooting

Level 3 in Ohio

2007-09-19 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Is anyone reporting Level3 outages in Ohio or DC ? One of my clients is down, and L3 is not answering the phones (!) traceroute 65.89.42.1 (From Cogent in Tyson's Corner) traceroute to 65.89.42.1 (65.89.42.1), 30 hops max, 38 byte packets 1 dmz-mct2.multicasttech.com (63.105.122.1) 0.367

Re: Level 3 in Ohio

2007-09-19 Thread Marshall Eubanks
It's back up in Ohio, as of 2:05 PM EDT. On Sep 19, 2007, at 1:33 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: Is anyone reporting Level3 outages in Ohio or DC ? One of my clients is down, and L3 is not answering the phones (!) traceroute 65.89.42.1 (From Cogent in Tyson's Corner) traceroute

Re: Market for diversity (was: Re: Cogent latency / congestion)

2007-08-21 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Aug 21, 2007, at 12:55 PM, David Lesher wrote: Speaking on Deep Background, the Press Secretary whispered: On Tue, 21 Aug 2007, Adrian Chadd wrote: Or there might suddenly be a reason/market for properly physically diverse paths which provide partial 1:1 (ie, some services are

Re: Cogent latency / congestion

2007-08-20 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Not seeing any Cogent problems in Tyson's Corner, Virginia Regards Marshall On Aug 20, 2007, at 3:21 PM, Mike Tancsa wrote: Does anyone have any details about the Cogent outage that started this morning (9am GMT-400) and is still continuing ? If its a fibre cut between Montville

Re: udp fragments, 1472 bytes payload

2007-08-15 Thread Marshall Eubanks
is the total bandwidth consumed ? Are they truly packet fragments ? Thankfully it sounds quite easy to build a filter for. Just please don't filter out all video ! -- Leigh Regards Marshall Marshall Eubanks wrote: Are you sure you don't have a customer watching streaming video ? Regards

Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

2007-08-14 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Aug 14, 2007, at 3:50 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 - -- Marshall Eubanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 14, 2007, at 12:19 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: I was just struck by a couple of statistics: [snip] In January 2007, according to PIR five

Re: Domain tasting; a load of hot air?

2007-08-14 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Aug 14, 2007, at 8:56 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd suggest: 1) one week latency between registration and entry into the TLD nameservers. 2) 50% (of 1-year registration fee) 'penalty' for cancelling the registration before it hits the TLD servers. 3) $250 'surcharge' (to

Re: udp fragments, 1472 bytes payload

2007-08-14 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Are you sure you don't have a customer watching streaming video ? Regards Marshall On Aug 14, 2007, at 7:20 PM, Miguel Mata wrote: I'm being attacked with UDP fragments having a payload 1472 bytes. Seems like a DDoS that only likes to suck bandwidth. Anyone on the same coaster? drop me

Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

2007-08-13 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Aug 13, 2007, at 4:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:52:37 -, Chris L. Morrow said: I'm really not sure, but I can imagine a slew of issues where 'marketting' doesn't plan properly and corp-ID/corp-branding end up trying to register and make-live a domain at

Re: [policy] When Tech Meets Policy...

2007-08-13 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Aug 14, 2007, at 12:19 AM, Paul Ferguson wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I was just struck by a couple of statistics: [snip] In January 2007, according to PIR five registrars deleted 1,773,910 domain names during the grace period and retained 10,862. That same

L3 in NYC

2007-08-08 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Is anyone else having trouble with Level 3 in New York ? We have circuits down, etc. Regards Marshall

Re: Cogent outage details?

2007-07-27 Thread Marshall Eubanks
My Gig-E Cogent link (Tyco Rd, Vienna Virginia) seems to be fine now. There was scheduled maintenance 3:00 AM - 7:00 AM, followed by a lot of ~ 5 second drops of packet transit. Haven't had any issues since ~ 9:00 AM EDT. Regards Marshall On Jul 27, 2007, at 11:10 AM, David Coulson

Re: iPhone and Network Disruptions ...

2007-07-24 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jul 24, 2007, at 5:34 PM, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: On 24-jul-2007, at 15:27, Prof. Robert Mathews (OSIA) wrote: Looking at this issue with an 'interoperability lens,' I remain puzzled by a personal observation that at least in the publicized case of Duke University's Wi-Fi net

Re: peter lothberg's mother slashdotted

2007-07-12 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jul 12, 2007, at 7:16 PM, Robert Blayzor wrote: Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: I have to disagree, considering the amount of people I've had to convice that this really is a single 50GHz wave using 40G per second over DWDM system designed for 10G and that it was router LC - optical

Re: Slate Podcast on Estonian DOS atatck

2007-05-24 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On May 24, 2007, at 7:09 AM, Bill Woodcock wrote: On Thu, 24 May 2007, Alexander Harrowell wrote: a) it wasn't really that serious, b) it was serious but mitigation was successful, or c) being well-mitigated (BCP38 and the like) from the word go, its seriousness or otherwise wasn't

Re: RTT from NY to New Delhi?

2007-05-16 Thread Marshall Eubanks
but not unreasonable. Regards Marshall Eubanks Going east from NY, you'd add 70 or 80ms to that - and a quick look suggests routes going west instead. (Test from home to .IN NS goes London - NY - West Coast - Singtel - India, for ~370ms) It's starting to head a bit towards walkie-talkie mode for VoIP

Re: BGP Problem on 04/16/2007

2007-04-19 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Apr 19, 2007, at 12:52 PM, David Temkin wrote: -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Warren Kumari Sent: Thursday, April 19, 2007 12:01 PM To: Robert E. Seastrom Cc: Leigh Porter; Jay Hennigan; Andre Oppermann; nanog@merit.edu Subject:

Re: 1500 does not work: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet

2007-04-15 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Apr 15, 2007, at 1:49 AM, Petri Helenius wrote: Marshall Eubanks wrote: I advise people doing streaming to not use MTU's larger than ~1450 for these sorts of reasons. The unfortunate side-effect of that is that most prominent streaming apps (don't know about Youtube though

Re: 1500 does not work: Thoughts on increasing MTUs on the internet

2007-04-14 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Hello; On Apr 14, 2007, at 3:38 AM, Peter Dambier wrote: Fred Baker wrote: ... 1500 byte MTUs in fact work. I'm all for 9K MTUs, and would recommend them. I don't see the point of 65K MTUs. ... Well, with almost everybody using PPP0E in germany and at least half of europe our mtu is

Re: TCP and WAN issue

2007-03-28 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Mar 28, 2007, at 5:12 AM, Andre Oppermann wrote: Marshall Eubanks wrote: You might want to look at this classic by Stanislav Shalunov http://shlang.com/writing/tcp-perf.html The description on this website is very good. Disclaimer: I'm a FreeBSD TCP/IP network stack kernel hacker

Re: [funsec] Not so fast, broadband providers tell big users (fwd)

2007-03-14 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Mar 14, 2007, at 3:02 AM, David Lesher wrote: {re: BPL will bring competition...} I am totally baffled by all the hype over BPL. What is true is the utilities would wet their pants over having same. Not for offering Internet access, but so they could read every electric meter in

Re: FCC on wifi at hotel

2007-02-28 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Feb 28, 2007, at 5:01 PM, Steve Meuse wrote: It's about revenue recovery. If you provide your own free wifi, they are losing potential business. It's usually part of the negotiation with the Hotel. Yes, some Hotels will indeed want revenue recovery for this - they will

Re: Measurement data on transit traffic in IP routers?

2007-02-18 Thread Marshall Eubanks
And be sure to check out the I2 netflow reports : http://netflow.internet2.edu/weekly/ Marshall On Feb 18, 2007, at 10:54 AM, Andrew Lee wrote: Hi Chris Your statement makes something of a presumption as to the architecture of a network. In many networks, edge aggregation devices do not

Re: wifi for 600, alex

2007-02-15 Thread Marshall Eubanks
. McLean -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Todd Vierling Sent: Thursday, February 15, 2007 12:02 AM To: Suresh Ramasubramanian Cc: Marshall Eubanks; Carl Karsten; NANOG Subject: Re: wifi for 600, alex On 2/14/07, Suresh Ramasubramanian [EMAIL

Re: wifi for 600, alex

2007-02-14 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Feb 14, 2007, at 3:49 PM, Carl Karsten wrote: Carl Karsten wrote: Hi list, I just read over: http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0302/ppt/joel.pdf because I am on the PyCon ( http://us.pycon.org ) team and last year the hotel supplied wifi for the 600 attendees was a disaster (they probably

Re: Every incident is an opportunity (was Re: Hackers hit key Internet traffic computers)

2007-02-12 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Feb 12, 2007, at 4:31 AM, Alexander Harrowell wrote: On 2/12/07, Gadi Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As a very smart person said a couple of weeks ago when this same argument was made: are you willing to do tech-support for my mother is she uses linux? Gadi. Name anyone

Re: death of the net predicted by deloitte -- film at 11

2007-02-12 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Hello; On Feb 12, 2007, at 11:15 AM, Alexander Harrowell wrote: -- Forwarded message -- From: Alexander Harrowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Feb 12, 2007 4:13 PM Subject: Re: death of the net predicted by deloitte -- film at 11 To: Paul Vixie [EMAIL PROTECTED] Paul, that's

Re: Colocation in the US.

2007-01-25 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 25, 2007, at 3:56 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: On Jan 25, 2007, at 12:49 PM, Warren Kumari wrote: The main issue with Flourinert is price -- I wanted some to cool a 20W IR laser -- I didn't spend that much time looking before I just decided to switch to distilled water, but I was

Re: Google wants to be your Internet

2007-01-23 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Hello; On Jan 22, 2007, at 6:52 PM, Daniel Golding wrote: One interesting point - they plan to use Broadband over Power Line (BPL) technology to do this. Meter monitoring is the killer app for BPL, which can then also be used for home broadband, Meter reading is one of the top costs

Re: wifi for 600, alex

2007-01-23 Thread Marshall Eubanks
The IETF in Vancouver was a disaster (the floors were transparent to RF), but Jim Martin and Joel Jaeggli and company have done an excellent job and the 802.11x has been quite good since. And the IETF is 1200 people all of whom use laptops all the time. Marshall On Jan 23, 2007, at 8:45

Re: Undersea fiber cut after Taiwan earthquake - PCCW / Singtel / KT e tc connectivity disrupted

2007-01-21 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 21, 2007, at 12:05 AM, Brian Wallingford wrote: That's news? The same still happens with much land-based sonet, where diverse paths still share the same entrance to a given facility. Unless each end can Entrances, ha. Anyone remember that railroad tunnel in Baltimore ? And I

Re: Google wants to be your Internet

2007-01-20 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Hello; On Jan 20, 2007, at 1:37 PM, Rodrick Brown wrote: On 1/20/07, Mark Boolootian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Cringley has a theory and it involves Google, video, and oversubscribed backbones: http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/2007/pulpit_20070119_001510.html The following

Re: Google wants to be your Internet

2007-01-20 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 20, 2007, at 4:36 PM, Alexander Harrowell wrote: Marshall wrote: Those sorts of percentages are common in Pareto distributions (AKA Zipf's law AKA the 80-20 rule). With the Zipf's exponent typical of web usage and video watching, I would predict something closer to 10% of the users

Re: How big a network is routed these days?

2007-01-17 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 17, 2007, at 12:19 PM, David Freedman wrote: I'm interested as to why RIRs dont set the minimum PI allocatable to /24 in order to fit with the current trend. In the 2002-3 micro-assignment policy, the RIR's assign a minimum of a /22. As far as I know, all of the PI /24's are

Re: AFP article on Taiwan cable repair effort

2007-01-16 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Furlongs per fortnight. On Jan 16, 2007, at 3:46 PM, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: Joel Jaeggli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it just me or is this article a migraine inducing mix of metric and English measures? you're lucky they also didn't use nautical miles and fathoms (1.829 meters in

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-13 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Of course, this below is for inter-domain. There is no shortage of multicast walled garden deployments. Regards Marshall On Jan 12, 2007, at 7:44 PM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Jan 12, 2007, at 10:05 AM, Frank Bulk wrote: If we're becoming a VOD world, does multicast play any

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-13 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 12, 2007, at 11:27 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, Gian Constantine wrote: I am pretty sure we are not becoming a VoD world. Linear programming is much better for advertisers. I do not think content providers, nor consumers, would prefer a VoD only service. A

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-13 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 13, 2007, at 6:12 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: On Jan 12, 2007, at 11:27 PM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Fri, 12 Jan 2007, Gian Constantine wrote: I am pretty sure we are not becoming a VoD world. Linear programming is much better for advertisers. I do not think content

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-13 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Dear Mikael; On Jan 13, 2007, at 6:45 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Marshall Eubanks wrote: For the US, an analysis by Kenneth Wilbur http://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=885465 , table 1, from this recent meeting in DC http://www.web.virginia.edu

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-13 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 13, 2007, at 7:36 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Sat, 13 Jan 2007, Marshall Eubanks wrote: A technical issue that I have to deal with is that you get a 30 minute show (actually 24 minutes of content) as 30 minutes, _with the ads slots included_. To show it without ads, you

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-12 Thread Marshall Eubanks
P.S. Of course, I do not agree we are moving to a pure VOD world. I agree with Michal Krsek in this regard. Frank -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Michal Krsek Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2007 2:28 AM To: Marshall Eubanks Cc: nanog

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-10 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 10, 2007, at 5:42 AM, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote: On Tue, 9 Jan 2007, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: between handling 30K unicast streams, and 30K multicast streams that each have only one or at most 2-3 viewers? My opinion on the downside of video multicast is that if you want it

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-10 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 10, 2007, at 11:19 PM, Thomas Leavitt wrote: It seems to me that multi-cast is a technical solution for the bandwidth consumption problems precipitated by real-time Internet video broadcast, but it doesn't seem to me that the bulk of current (or even future) Internet video traffic

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-09 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 9, 2007, at 1:04 PM, Gian Constantine wrote: You are correct. Today, IP multicast is limited to a few small closed networks. If we ever migrate to IPv6, this would instantly change. I am curious. Why do you think that ? Regards Marshall One of my previous assertions was the

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-09 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Dear Valdis; On Jan 9, 2007, at 10:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 11:29:32 EST, Gian Constantine said: If you considered my previous posts, you would know I agree streaming is scary on a large scale, but unicast streaming is what I reference. Multicast streaming is the

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-09 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 9, 2007, at 8:40 PM, Gian Constantine wrote: It would not be any easier. The negotiations are very complex. The issue is not one of infrastructure capex. It is one of jockeying between content providers (big media conglomerates) and the video service providers (cable companies).

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-09 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 10, 2007, at 1:49 AM, Marshall Eubanks wrote: Dear Valdis; On Jan 9, 2007, at 10:02 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 09 Jan 2007 11:29:32 EST, Gian Constantine said: If you considered my previous posts, you would know I agree streaming is scary on a large scale, but unicast

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-08 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Dear Sean; On Jan 8, 2007, at 2:34 AM, Sean Donelan wrote: On Sun, 7 Jan 2007, Joe Abley wrote: Setting aside the issue of what particular ISPs today have to pay, the real cost of sending data, best-effort over an existing network which has spare capacity and which is already supported

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-08 Thread Marshall Eubanks
: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Marshall Eubanks Sent: Saturday, January 06, 2007 7:45 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Andrew Odlyzko; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously? On Jan 6, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Colm MacCarthaigh

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-07 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Dear Michael; On Jan 7, 2007, at 8:18 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That might be worse for download operators, because people may download an hour of video, and only watch 5 minutes :/ So, from that standpoint, making a video file available for download is wasting order of 90% of the

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-07 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Dear Colm; On Jan 7, 2007, at 8:50 AM, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 08:46:41PM -0600, Frank Bulk wrote: What does the Venice project see in terms of the number of upstreams required to feed one view, snip Supposedly FTTH-rich countries contribute much more to P2P

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-07 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Dear Alexander; On Jan 7, 2007, at 8:59 AM, Alexander Harrowell wrote: In the mobile world, there is a lot of telco-led activity around providing streaming video (TV), which always seems to boil down to the following points: We (AmericaFree.TV) simulcast everything in 3GPP and 3GPP2 at

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-07 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Dear Gian; On Jan 7, 2007, at 10:27 AM, Gian Constantine wrote: You know, when it's all said and done, streaming video may be the motivator for migrating the large scale Internet to IPv6. I do not see unicast streaming as a long term solution for video service. In the short term, unicast

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-06 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Hello; On Jan 6, 2007, at 1:52 AM, Thomas Leavitt wrote: If this application takes off, I have to presume that everyone's baseline network usage metrics can be tossed out the window... Thomas You should probably do that anyway, if you are worried about Venice, because Venice is just

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-06 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Note that 220 MB per hour (ugly units) is 489 Kbps, slightly less than our current usage. The more popular the content is, the more sources it can be pulled from and the less redundant data we send, and that number can be as low as 220MB per hour viewed. (Actually, I find this a tough

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-06 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 6, 2007, at 9:35 AM, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 09:25:27AM -0500, Marshall Eubanks wrote: Note that 220 MB per hour (ugly units) is 489 Kbps, slightly less than our current usage. Oh I should be clear too. We use SI powers of 10, just like for bandwidth

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-06 Thread Marshall Eubanks
or worse, it may even be better, but it's different. And as long as you can make a profit from broadcasting / streaming... Andrew Regards Marshall On Sat, 6 Jan 2007, Marshall Eubanks wrote: Note that 220 MB per hour (ugly units) is 489 Kbps, slightly less =20 than our current

Re: Network end users to pull down 2 gigabytes a day, continuously?

2007-01-06 Thread Marshall Eubanks
On Jan 6, 2007, at 10:19 AM, Colm MacCarthaigh wrote: On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 09:09:19AM -0600, Andrew Odlyzko wrote: 2. The question I don't understand is, why stream? There are other good reasons, but fundamentally; because of live telivision. In these days, when a terabyte disk for

Re: AS41961 not seen in many networks

2007-01-04 Thread Marshall Eubanks
They are seen here, through Cogent : * 194.60.78.0 38.101.161.1164001 0 174 13237 41961 i * 194.60.204.0 38.101.161.1164001 0 174 13237 41961 i * 194.153.114.038.101.161.1164001 0 174 13237 41961 i Regards Marshall

Re: AS41961 not seen in many networks

2007-01-04 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Yes, I should have made that clear, not received through Level 3 at AS 16517. (But, Cogent has them.) On Jan 4, 2007, at 11:25 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And aren't seen through gblx. I also think I can't see those prefixes through verizon. Also not seen via Telia (1299) or Level3

Re: would you run this little script, please

2007-01-02 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Run successfully on Mac OS X and Fedora Core Regards Marshall On Jan 2, 2007, at 12:04 PM, Randy Bush wrote: if you have a bsd, linux , or probably cygwin machine, would you please run the attached script once as a favor to a research project? it simply does a traceroute to a eight targets

Re: would you run this little script, please

2007-01-02 Thread Marshall Eubanks
In the spirit of trust, but verify, I preferred to read the script. Regards Marshall On Jan 2, 2007, at 12:44 PM, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 2 Jan 2007 07:16:42 -1000 Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED

Re: Collocation Access

2006-12-28 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Here is a true story. Pardon me for being a little vague about details. Client in argument about (large) expense payments with former employee (FE) (not me, BTW). FE wants payment, client says money is not owed. I am in no position to judge correctness of either argument. FE used to have

Re: today's Wash Post Business section

2006-12-21 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Hello; On Dec 20, 2006, at 11:20 PM, Steven M. Bellovin wrote: On Wed, 20 Dec 2006 22:48:06 -0500 Edward Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yeah, granted anyone looking for myspace might meet that demographic, but how many neophytes would use Google for a IP Who Is search? That's the listing

Re: How to pick a Site-Local Scope multi cast address

2006-12-09 Thread Marshall Eubanks
. Regards Marshall Eubanks On Dec 8, 2006, at 10:54 AM, Dave Raskin wrote: Hello, I have been directed to this list by IANA when I asked the following question: I am researching ways of device/machine discovery on the network. This is similar to the Discovery phase of UPnP devices

Fwd: The IESG Approved the Expansion of the AS Number Registry

2006-11-29 Thread Marshall Eubanks
Seems relevant. Begin forwarded message: From: IESG Secretary [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: November 29, 2006 10:32:38 AM EST To: IETF Announcement list ietf-announce@ietf.org Subject: The IESG Approved the Expansion of the AS Number Registry Original Message Subject: The IESG

Re: How to get a list of research and academic ISP ?

2006-11-15 Thread Marshall Eubanks
. Is it possible that an academic AS is a provider for some commercial ASes? If so, does it happen often? It may happen, but probably not often. Thank you in advance for your comments. Maciej Kurant Hope this helps. Regards Marshall Eubanks

Mobile Platform Internetworking

2006-11-09 Thread Marshall Eubanks
a mailing list and a web site devoted to this. Mailing list information and presentations and documents can be found at http://www.multicasttech.com/mpi/ If you interested, you are welcome to join and contribute. Regards Marshall Eubanks

  1   2   3   >