On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 9:13 PM, jamie [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Gentlemen (and Ren!):;-)
I'm currently investigating options w.r.t. enterprise-wide (over 250
device, and by 'device' i mean router and/or switch) configuration
management (and (ideally)
On Mon, Apr 14, 2008 at 6:18 AM, Rich Kulawiec [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, Apr 13, 2008 at 03:55:13PM -0500, Ross wrote:
Again I disagree with the principle that this list should be used for
mail operation issues but maybe I'm just in the wrong here.
I don't think you're getting
On 4/11/08, Raymond L. Corbin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
It's not unusual to do /24 blocks, however Yahoo claims they do not keep any
logs as to what causes the /24 block. If they kept logs and were able to tell
us which IP address in the /24 sent abuse to their network we would then be
On 4/10/08, chuck goolsbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
An anonymous source at Yahoo told me that they have pushed
a config update sometime today out to their servers to help with these
deferral issues.
Please don't ask me to play proxy on this one of any
other issues you
On 3/29/08, Alex Pilosov [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Can someone please, pretty please with sugar on top, explain the point
behind high power density?
Raw real estate is cheap (basically, nearly free). Increasing power
density per sqft will *not* decrease cost, beyond 100W/sqft, the real
On 3/30/07, Zach White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, Mar 29, 2007 at 10:17:50AM -0400, Kradorex Xeron wrote:
Another problem is that the Yahoo/Inktomi search robots do not stop if no site
is present at that address, Thus, someone could register a DNS name and have
a site set on it
On 14 Dec 2006 09:47:46 -0500, Michael A. Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If there are any BGP clueful contacts at Global Crossing listening (or
if someone listening wants to forward this to them :-), I would
appreciate your getting in touch.
Out of curiousity, why do you think anyone here on
On 12/14/06, Lasher, Donn [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On 14 Dec 2006 09:47:46 -0500, Michael A. Patton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
If there are any BGP clueful contacts at Global Crossing listening
(or
if someone listening wants to forward this to them :-), I would
appreciate your getting in
On 11/29/06, Jim Popovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Thu, 2006-11-30 at 00:06 -0500, Jim Popovitch wrote:
Question: What could cause the first trace below to succeed, but the
second trace to fail?
$ mtr 69.61.40.35
HOST: blueLoss% Snt Last Avg Best Wrst
On 11/9/06, Olsen, Jason [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
At around 1345 Central it was brought to my attention that we had lost
access to a number of websites out on the 'net... Two big-name examples
are Oracle, which has our development team screaming for my blood. The
other that's come to light as
On 11/9/06, Deepak Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Does someone know if this is a *single* link down?? It seems bizarre to
me that there would only be a single link (geographically) between those
two.
Whatever happened to redundancy?
Deepak
From the outside, this appeared to be more like a
On 11/4/06, Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Chris L. Morrow wrote:
Could you be any less descriptive of the problem you are seeing?
the internet is broken. anyone know why?
Because we didn't deploy IPv6 quickly enough? ;P
Matt
On 11/3/06, Matt Clauson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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Greetings, NANOGers. I've got a mail cluster that's been spooling about
5 messages for the past week or so (with very little drain and
traffic passing), and my mail admin reports that
On 6/14/06, Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Since power consumption was a topic at the last NANOG meeting.
subscription required, or buy a copy of the Wall Street Journal from
a newstand
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB115016534015978590.html
Surge in Internet Use, Energy Costs
Has Big
On 6/12/06, Rodrick Brown [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Looks like this document maybe have been removed? the link appears to
be dead any mirrors?
The slide deck hadn't been put online when I sent my notes; I took a
guess at what the location might end up being, but guessed wrong.
The actual
(I'm starting to guess I'd finish sending these out faster if
I stopped falling asleep on my keyboard so often... --Matt)
2006.06.07 Welcome to Wednesday morning
http://www.nanog.org/
click on Evaluation Form
Let us know how the M-W vs S-Tu
format; next time will be S-Tu due to ARIN
joint
(hope the inclusion of URLs in the notes isn't
making them all end up in people's spam
folders... --Matt)
2006.06.07 Vince Fuller, from Cisco
and Jason Schiller from UUnet
[slides are at:
http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0606/pdf/vince-fuller.pdf
IPv6 issues routing and multihoming
scalability with
(I think these were the toughest to take notes on, since they went
by so fast; took the most cleaning up afterwards. But they were also
the best talks of the 3 days. I wish we could have flipped, and taken
more time on Tuesday for them so we really could have dug in and
asked the questions we
Break ends at 11:40, PGP signing will take place,
and don't forget to fill out servers.
ANYCAST fun for the final sessions.
Lorenzo Colitti, RIPE NCC
[slides are at:
http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0606/pdf/lorenzo-colitti.pdf
Agenda:
introduction
latency
client-side
server-side
Benefit of
(this was one of the coolest talks from the three days, actually,
and has gotten me *really* jazzed about some cool stuff we can
do internally. Huge props to Matt, Barrett, and Todd for putting
this together!! --Matt)
2006.06.07 TCP anycast, Matt Levine, Barrett Lyon
with thanks to Todd
(last notes from NANOG37, yay! I definitely fell further behind
this time around than in Dallas. Unfortunately, I don't think
I'll be allowed to go to St. Louis, so I probably won't be
able to provide notes for NANOG38. --Matt)
2006.06.07 Deploying DNSSEC--bootstrap yourself
Joao Damas, ISC
On 6/8/06, Matthew Petach [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
(still here, just been really busy at work today; will try to finish sending the
notes out tonight. --Matt)
2006.06.06 MPLS TE tutorial
Pete Templin, Nextlink
Gyah!! Huge apologies to Pete, who really works for Texlink.
I used to work
On 6/9/06, Simon Waters [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Friday 09 Jun 2006 12:22, Matthew Petach wrote:
SNDS tomorrow
Usability
The sign-up process is very painful.
Microsoft Passports really aren't appropriate for business accounts, my
employer don't have a mothers maiden name, or a first pet
(sorry these are coming out delayed, I had to deal with an internal
routing challenge
for much of yesterday afternoon. --Matt)
2006.06.06 CC1 ENUM LLC
IPv6 DAY
http://www.ipv6day.org/
6bone is being shut down today, on the grounds
that IPv6 is live and commercial, based on Jeordi's
(ok, one more set of notes and then off to sit in traffic for an hour on
the way to work... --Matt)
2006.06.06 Power and Cooling panel
Dan Golding, Tier1 research, moderator
Hot Time in the Big IDC
Cooling, Power, and the Data Center
3 IDC vendors, 4 hardware vendors
Michael Laudon, force10
(still here, just been really busy at work today; will try to finish sending the
notes out tonight. --Matt)
2006.06.06 MPLS TE tutorial
Pete Templin, Nextlink
[slides are at:
http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0606/pdf/pete-templin.pdf
http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0606/pdf/pete-templin-exercise.pdf
He
(apologies, this really was just a marketing presentation
in very, very thin disguise. I really want that hour of my
life back. :( --Matt )
2006.06.06 Net Optics Learning Center Presents
The fundamentals of Passive Monitoring Access
[slides are at:
(I was going to try to get all the notes from today's panels out
before going to bed, but I fell asleep on my keyboard finishing
up these notes, so I think I'm going to wait and send the batch
of Tuesday and Wednesday notes out after things wrap up on
Wednesday. Sorry about the delay, but I
2006.06.06 Nick Feamster, Network-level spam behaviour
[slides are at:
http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0606/pdf/nick-feamster.pdf
Spam
unsolicited commercial email
feb 2005, 90% of all email is spam
common filtering techniques are
content based
DNS balcklist queries are significant fraction
of DNS
Information collection on DDoS attacks,
Anna Claiborne, Prolexic Technologies.
[slides are at:
http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0606/pdf/anna-claiborne.pdf
DDoS mitigation service.
personal experience mitigating over 150 DDoS
attacks.
Popular topic, but nobody talks about how you
can defend yourself
(getting my notes from today's talks out, finally. ^_^ ; --Matt)
2006.06.05 Welcome notes
Program chair, Steve Feldman
Thanks to Rodney Joffe, Neustar/Ultra services
People who were instrumental in getting connectivity
into the room here deserve a big round of applause
NANOG program
2006.06.05 Ron Bonica
slides are at
http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0606/pdf/ron-bonica-joint%20presenters.pdf
Authentication for TCP-based routing and management
protocols, from Juniper.
A joint presentation, Alcatel, Cisco, Juniper.
Starts at NANOG at Washington 2 years ago,
security BOF; someone
2006.06.05 Active measurement of the AS path
prepending method.
[ slides are at
http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0606/pdf/samantha-lo.pdf
This is the research forum part of the meeting,
people doing real research on real networks.
Samantha Lo and Rocky KC Chang
department of computing
{cssmlo,[EMAIL
2006.06.05 Pretty Good BGP
Josh Karlin, Stephanie Forrest, Jennifer Rexford
slides are at:
http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0606/pdf/josh-karlin.pdf
Main idea: delay suspicious routes
lower the preference of suspicious routes for 24 hrs
Benefits:
network has a chance to stop the attack before it
2006.06.05
A simple coordination mechasims for interdomain routing
[slides are at:
http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0606/pdf/ratul-mahajan.pdf
Ratul Mahjan
David Wetherall
Tom Anderson
University of Washington now @ Microsoft Research
the nature of internet routing
within a contractual framework, ISPs
Randy Bush, moderator of the next section
He begged to do the introduction for a
specific reason; deployment of IPv6
that is beneficial to this companies'
PL; possibly the only one in existence
thus far.
He did a very studied and purposeful view of
using IPv6 to benefit his company!
IPv6 @
(since there's no slides for these online anywhere, and the slides
were going past
pretty quickly, I have to apologize for the gaps in the notes ahead of
time. --MNP)
2006.06.05 Network Neutrality Panel
[slides are not yet online]
next up is the controversial subject of
network neutrality;
(This time around I opted to go to the peering BOF and take some notes.
It's the one downside to parallel tracks--wish I could be in two places at
once. ^_^;; --MNP)
2006.06.05 Peering BOF
Bill Norton introduces the Agenda;
unfortunately, my laptop took so
long to boot, I missed the Agenda
(ok, last set of notes for tonight, and then it's off to bed for 90
minutes of sleep
before heading back to the convention center. ^_^; --MNP)
2006.06.05 Welcome to the 4th BGP Tools BOF!
[slides are at
http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0606/pdf/lixia-zhang.pdf
Nick Feamster GeorgeTech
Dan Massey
Here's my notes from tonight's 'NANOG new attendee orientation
meeting'.
Matt
2006.06.04 NANOG New Attendee Orientation
NOTES:
NANOG Organization
Steering Commitee (blue badges)
Program Committee (yellow badges)
decide what's on the agenda
(green badges are both)
Mailing list Committee
Here's my notes from tonight's (overly!) long Open
Community Meeting. When I said yes to going
long vs cutting the discussion short, I was thinking
we'd go long by 10 minutes or so...not by a whole
hour+ ^_^;;
Matt
2006.06.04 NANOG Open Community Meeting
NANOG/San Jose NANOG SC [EMAIL
On 3/29/06, Peter Corlett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
[I'm wearing my personal hat here.]I'm getting a *flood* of spam coming in from Yahoo! mailservers, both to mypersonal and work addresses. It seems that Yahoo! don't care. Here's theresponse to me piping a sample one through Spamcop:
Morning intro notes--don't forget to fill out
your SURVEYS
six lightening talks signed up, should be very
cool. If you have slides, get them to Steve
Feldman start with!
Wireless movie after break should be cool to watch.
Ren? Steve mistakenly introduces her, she corrects
them. Don't forget
2006.02.15 Hurricane Katrina: Telecom Infrastructure Impacts,
Solutions, and Opportunities, Paula Rhea, Verizon
A more interactive presentation from her, in the
aisles.
Verizon Business group--combined MCI/Verizon team.
Agenda
Hurricane Katrina Recap
Telecom infrastructure impacts
telecom
Access point movie goes whizzing past very quickly
as Bill Fenner narrates.
Lets you see where people are congregating, and
which talks are more interesting, and when people
migrate out of talks; could feed into the survey
to tell the program comittee which talks are of
more interesting.
(they weren't kidding about lightning!! ^_^;; )
2006.02.15 Lightning Talks:
Infrastructure (DNS and Routing) Security -
Status and Update by Sandra Murphy
Need for Speed: What's next after 10GE?
by Mike Hughes
A Brief Look at Some DNS Query Data
by John Kristoff
The impact of fiber access to
2006.02.15 Katrina Recover Panel
moderator: Sean Donelan, Cisco
Members: Paula Rhea, Verizon
Josh Snowhorn, Terremark
Bobby Cates, NASA
Sean Donelan was with SBC when Katrina hit,
now with Cisco. Dave couldn't be here, but
Sean will do his Bellsouth slides.
Lessons Learned
Industry has to be
Apologies in advance, notes from this morning will be a bit
more scattered, as I was working on an issue in parallel
to taking notes.
Matt
2006.02.14 talk 1 IRR Power Tools
12:10 to 12:25, extra talk added, not on
printed agenda.
Thanks to those who submitted lightning
talks.
PC committee
2006.02.14 talk 2 Netflow tools
Bill Yurcik
byurcik at ncsa.uiuc.edu
NVisionIP and VisFlowConnect-IP
probably a dozen tools out there, this is just
two of them. Concenses is there's something to
this.
They're an edge network, comes into ISP domain,
their tools are used by entities with many
2006.02.14 talk 3 Flamingo netflow visualization
Manish (from BGP Inspect project from Merit)
bgpinspect.merit.edu:8080
He'll be talking later at the Tools BOF as well
apparently.
Introduction: What is Flamingo?
Visualization
The Flamingo Tool
combining visualizations with controls
Case
2006.02.14 talk 4 Flooding attacks
Jianhong Xia
A new talk added right before lunch by
Randy Bush will push us to 12:25.
Two talks coming up about DoS attacks
against control information
Flooding Attacks by exploiting persistent
forwarding loops.
Introduction: routing determines forwarding
Many apologies...I'm no Stan Barber, but still doing my best to keep up
with the note-taking. ^_^;;
Matt
Slides are on Randy's site at
http://rip.psg.com/~randy/060214.nanog-pki.pdf
What I want for Eid ul-Fitr
Randy Bush
randy at psg.com
Definition of Eid ul-Fitr; end of Ramadan; breaking
Last notes of the day...
Matt
2006.02.14 Tools BOF
Todd Underwood, panel moderator
A number of interesting tools presented earlier today;
all of them are good and interesting and solve a
particular set of problems. None are in widespread
use. There's a lot of possible reasons; do they
solve
Since there are several attendees that are snowed in
and won't be able to make it to Dallas for NANOG, I
was thinking of posting my notes from each presentation
to the nanog list, so those who are stranded can follow
along from home. Would that be of interest to the list,
or would it be just so
Based on generally positive feedback from many people,
I'll be posting my notes from the conference. I'll preface
the subject line with NANOG36-NOTES, so if you want
to mass-skip the thread, it should be easy to do so.
2006.02.13 NANOG36 day 1
Opening/welcome to Dallas
Steve Feldman starts
2006.02.13 talk 2
DNS cache poisoners
Lazy, Stupid, or Evil
Duane Wessels
Motivation
During March/April 2005, SANS internet storm
center reported a number of DNS cache poisoning attacks
were occurring
Poisoned nameservers have bogus NS records for the com zone
SANS ISC theorizes it may have
(Huge apologies in advance for any and all names I completely
mangle! check http://nanog.multiply.com/ to see names/faces
correctly handled by Ren. ^_^; )
Matt
2006.02.13, talk 3
NTT labs, (Steve Feldman apologizes for mangling the
pronnounciation of their names).
NTT information sharing
2006.02.13 Steve Gibbard
DNS infrastructure Distribution
Steve Gibbard
Packet Clearing House
http://www.pch.net/
scg at pch.net
Introduction
Previous talk on importance of keeping criticical
infrastructure local
Without local infastructure, local communications are
subject to far away outages,
Apparently the video feed is of very good quality this time around--many
thanks to Brokaw for the good bandwidth to the hotel!
Last set of notes before lunch.
Matt
2006.02.12 NANOG IPv6 transition panel
panel member briefs at
http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0602/golding.html
IPv6: time for
Here's my notes from the MPLS QoS tutorial; wish I could have
been in two places at once to catch the ISPSec BOF as well.
I won't be taking notes at Eddie Deens, though, so it'll be up
to Ren's camera to capture the details for those following along
at home. http://nanog.multiply.com/
Matt
I captured some notes during tonight's open mike
committee meeting, in case they may be of interest
to the list.
Apologies in advance for typos, it was hard to keep
up with the speakers. ^_^;
Matt
Steering Committee Report ([EMAIL PROTECTED])
2006.02.12 1700 hours Central Time.
AGENDA
(oops--sent this out last night, but forgot to change the
sender to the subscribed-to-nanog address first,
gomennasai minnasan)
Matt
I took some notes at the NANOG community meeting
tonight, and thought I'd share them with the list members
in the spirit of transparency--apologies for the
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