Re: Transition Planning for IPv6 as mandated by the US Govt

2008-03-18 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Nathan Ward [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Perhaps you could integrate your work with a project like pfsense? From what I've seen, that's the best open source CPE solution, and doesn't yet have real IPv6 support (but has just about everything else). That would be a huge benefit to the

Re: Using x.x.x.0 and x.x.x.255 host addresses in supernets.

2008-01-09 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
James R. Cutler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am astounded at seeing this discussion. I have not seen this much disavowing of CIDR addressing since 2003 or before. To steal a phrase from Dave Rand, you're confused. Nobody is disavowing CIDR, nor is anyone arguing against using the all-zeroes

Re: Using x.x.x.0 and x.x.x.255 host addresses in supernets.

2008-01-08 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Wayne E. Bouchard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So my oppinion is don't hesistate to use it until you find a real, reproducible problem. Tell that to your call center manager. :-) ---rob

Re: [admin] Using the NANOG list as a paging mechanism

2008-01-05 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Patrick Clochesy [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We could come up with a list or an updateable site, but it's bound to be abused and thus ignored, the same reason people arn't sending to abuse@ and postmaster@ in the first place. If only there were some web site where someone could go to search

Re: DreamHost Contact?

2007-12-31 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Gregory Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:42:21 -0500 From: Michael Greb [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've got a user sending a lot of UDP traffic to 208.113.189.13 port 22. This traffic is very likely undesirable and I'd be willing to pull the plug immediately if I can get

Re: DreamHost Contact?

2007-12-31 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Robert E. Seastrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Gregory Hicks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Date: Sun, 30 Dec 2007 21:42:21 -0500 From: Michael Greb [EMAIL PROTECTED] I've got a user sending a lot of UDP traffic to 208.113.189.13 port 22. This traffic is very likely undesirable and I'd

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL leased line customers

2007-12-29 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Mark Smith [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 27 Dec 2007 21:50:01 -0500 Robert E. Seastrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd really, really, really like to have DHCP6 on the Mac. Autoconfig is not sufficient for this task unless there is some kind of trick you can do to make the eui-64 come

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL leased line customers

2007-12-27 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Leo Bicknell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In a message written on Thu, Dec 27, 2007 at 10:57:59PM +0100, Iljitsch van Beijnum wrote: It is wih IPv6: you just connect the ethernet cable and the RAs take care of the rest. _You_ _really_ _don't_ _need_ _DHCP_ _for_ _IPv6_. If you need

Re: v6 subnet size for DSL leased line customers

2007-12-21 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Chris Adams [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Once upon a time, Owen DeLong [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: I think it makes sense to assign as follows: /64 for the average current home user. /56 for any home user that wants more than one subnet /48 for any home user that can show need. Dumb question

Re: IEEE 40GE 100GE

2007-12-13 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Chris, Those were straw-man numbers. The point is that eventually it all becomes a commodity and mass-produced, and I'd like to see the stuff that would be maximally useful to us be the commodity that benefits most from the mass production. Hence my preference for the 10km optics.

Re: IEEE 40GE 100GE

2007-12-12 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
A practical question here: does anyone know offhand if 4km reach is adequate for interbuilding access (i.e., DC[124] to DC3) access at Equinix Ashburn, including worst-case interior wiring and cross connects? I'm thinking that's cutting it close. The enterprise people are substantially less

Re: IEEE 40GE 100GE

2007-12-12 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Justin M. Streiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I haven't read the draft spec yet to see what's being proposed for a link budget at 3/4/10km, but that's just as important as the physical distance. That's a really good point, and one which I didn't originally consider pre-coffee. :-) Link

Re: IEEE 40GE 100GE

2007-12-12 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
. ---rob Chris -Original Message- From: Robert E. Seastrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 5:06 AM To: Justin M. Streiner Cc: nanog@merit.edu; Chris Cole Subject: Re: IEEE 40GE 100GE Justin M. Streiner [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I haven't read

Re: IEEE 40GE 100GE

2007-12-12 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Deepak Jain [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm on board with that as far as it goes, but has the scenario of adjustable launch powers so that you don't ever need attenuators plus the economy of scale that would come from having *one* type of interface for 1m-10km runs been considered? It seems

Re: IEEE 40GE 100GE

2007-12-12 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
that the NANOG mailing list accepted attachments. Someone oughta fix that, heh. Thanks, ---Rob Chris -Original Message- From: Robert E. Seastrom [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, December 12, 2007 11:20 AM To: Chris Cole Cc: Justin M

Re: Another question on rfc1918

2007-11-23 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Michael Painter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: michael's colleague writes: Most ISP routers (and I have seen configs for over 1000 of them and only seen source route blocked on less then 10 of these! [1]) do not filter source routing (ie no no ip source-route entry). As a result, source

Re: unwise filtering policy from cox.net

2007-11-21 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Barry Shein [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: P.S. It's an interesting thought. The only approach to a solution I could imagine is that the whole address would have to be passed in the MX query. Once upon a time (1987) there was this experimental facility called MB (mailbox) records which did

Re: mlc files formal complaint against me

2007-10-08 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: no sc hat at all the appended message earned me a formal complaint from the mlc. No, it did not. It earned you a polite request from Marty to show some leadership and not engage in off-topic personal sniping on the list. When you asked if it was a

Re: mlc files formal complaint against me

2007-10-08 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: when i asked if it was formal, assuming it was so because it had been cc:d to the sc ($deity knows why), rob said yes it could be taken that way. I'm sorry that you misunderstood my communication; obviously I should have laid it out more carefully. The

Re: mlc files formal complaint against me

2007-10-08 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Jim Popovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 2007-10-08 at 18:46 -0400, Martin Hannigan wrote: Just so we're clear, you will continue to see requests to adapt to the AUP wrt to being on topic. If you don't like that, you can certainly seek to have me thrown off the MLC. In fact, I

Re: mlc files formal complaint against me

2007-10-08 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but i am certainly guilty of terseness and obscurity, as well as confusing two ex-cseo of qwest. my apologies. ... this would have been very clear as to the formality of the message, and have allowed discussion and explantation. Matthew 7:5

Re: IPv6 Information Wiki

2007-09-25 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: ARIN has set up a wiki at http://www.getipv6.info to publish information that will help ISPs, large and small in implementing IPv6 and migrating to an IPv6 Internet. The unintentionally funny part of this is that the wiki hangs (the redirect to

Re: Question on Loosely Synchronized Router Clocks

2007-09-17 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Xin Liu [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry for the confusion. Let me clarify. We are interested in a number of questions: 1. Can we assume loosely synchronized router clocks in the Internet, or we have to make absolutely no assumption about router clocks at all? Make no assumption. 2. If

Re: messy

2007-07-02 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Travis H. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, Jan 30, 2007 at 03:48:18PM -0500, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: Lucy Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and hard to read... http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/allochrt.pdf I had the same reaction at first. Incidentally, you can get this for cheap from

Re: BGP Problem on 04/16/2007

2007-04-19 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
With certain susceptible Sun CPUs which were popular during the last sunspot maxima, this was actually demonstrably true (and acknowledged by Sun), so don't laugh too hard. ---rob Leigh Porter [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Somebody form a certain large

Re: summarising [was: Re: ICANNs role]

2007-04-04 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Same with buying a handgun in most states and in Canada. Same with opening a business in most jurisdictions. You have to go to cityhall and apply for a license first. Why should domain name registries be special and be exempt from these normal processes of vetting

Re: Paging Doug Humphrey (formerly Coloco)

2007-03-28 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
handled. ---rob sean donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Sorry about the general mail. Network operators sometimes disappear into the ether. If anyone knows how to contact Coloco or Doug Humphrey I'd appreciate finding out how to get my server back

Re: Paul Vixie: Suspected Arms Dealer

2007-03-07 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Alexander Harrowell [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: One of my blog-related interests is the career of Russian arms dealer Viktor Bout. I recently checked out the namebase.org social network diagram for him...and was a little surprised to see where our very own Paul Vixie comes in it.

Re: Where are static bogon filters appropriate? was: 96.2.0.0/16 Bogons

2007-03-02 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Roland Dobbins [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mar 1, 2007, at 1:10 PM, Chris L. Morrow wrote: So... again, are bogon filters 'in the core' useful? (call 'core' some network not yours) Antispoofing is 'static' and therefore brittle in nature, people change jobs, etc. - so, we shouldn't do

Re: Throwing out the NANOG AUP

2007-02-19 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Gadi Evron [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 19 Feb 2007, Robert E. Seastrom wrote: Cat Okita [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Maybe I'm missing something here - I haven't seen Rob Seastrom send any personal attacks to the list. Are you talking about private email? If that's the case

Re: wifi for 600, alex

2007-02-15 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Inasmuch as anyone with an ICBM (Intel-Chip-Based-Mac) has 802.11a capability, and such devices have been gaining increasing traction among geeks of late, I'm not surprised. The latest Airport Extreme base station from Apple is A/B/G/N (the Express is still b/g).

Re: DNS: Definitely Not Safe?

2007-02-15 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Joe Abley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: i thought it was actually covered on-list... during the event, no? I don't think it was especially covered on this list (you are no doubt thinking of other lists). There was a lightning talk about it in Toronto, for which slides can be found in the usual

Re: Solaris telnet vuln solutions digest and network risks

2007-02-14 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do you know of any network operators who have no Solaris boxes at all used in the management of some part of their network? Seems to me that it is very common for network operators to use Solaris boxes to manage their networks. And while they may have ACLs to

Re: messy

2007-01-30 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Lucy Lynch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: and hard to read... http://www.ntia.doc.gov/osmhome/allochrt.pdf adhoc allocation taken to it's limits? different frequencies of RF have different performance characteristics. unlike ip addresses, a 1 mhz allocation at 180 mhz and a 1 mhz allocation

Re: Undersea fiber cut after Taiwan earthquake - PCCW / Singtel / KT e tc connectivity disrupted

2007-01-22 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Jamie Bowden [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Entrances, ha. Anyone remember that railroad tunnel in Baltimore ? And I am pretty sure that Fairfax County isn't much better. We have a railroad tunnel in Fairfax? single points of failure, like f'rinstance collapsed backbone segments on boone blvd.

Re: AFP article on Taiwan cable repair effort

2007-01-16 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Joel Jaeggli [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Is it just me or is this article a migraine inducing mix of metric and English measures? you're lucky they also didn't use nautical miles and fathoms (1.829 meters in si units)... Leagues... mustn't forget leagues.

Re: today's Wash Post Business section

2006-12-20 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Edward Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The #10 google search in the Who Is category (leading off with Borat, Hezbollah, EU, hot, ...) is IP Who Is. I'm not sure what to make of that. Has google replaced the whois client? Well, the article talks about people using myspace as a search term,

Re: today's Wash Post Business section

2006-12-20 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Edward Lewis [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, granted anyone looking for myspace might meet that demographic, but how many neophytes would use Google for a IP Who Is search? That's the listing I thought odd. There would be very few of them if it weren't for spam.

Re: Bogon Filter - Please check for 77/8 78/8 79/8

2006-12-11 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
no, he's saying that a lawsuit is a useful method of forcing someone who is intentionally or negligently distributing incorrect information that other people who do not know any better then believe and use in their own networks. i betcha libel laws aren't written in such a way that they are

Re: U.S./Europe connectivity

2006-12-06 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: BTW, the speed of light in fibre is roughly equal to the speed of electrons in copper and roughly equal to two-thirds the speed of light in a vacuum. You just can't move information faster than about 200,000 km/hr. Slow day at work, Michael? In my universe light

more on passports for Toronto NANOG...

2006-11-22 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Very little here that we don't already know: http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20061122/ap_on_go_ot/passports_air_travel *except* for the bit in the third from last paragraph about the startlingly large percentages (between 25 and 42%) of Americans traveling to Canada, Mexico, and the Caribbean who

Re: [c-nsp] [Re: huge amount of weird traffic on poin-to-point ethernet link]

2006-11-09 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, Nov 09, 2006 at 09:26:13AM -0500, Robert Boyle wrote: At 09:23 AM 11/9/2006, you wrote: On Thu, Nov 09, 2006, Robert Boyle wrote: You should also create a bogons list for your BGP routes which you accept from your upstream. Block all RFC1918 space and

Re: [c-nsp] [Re: huge amount of weird traffic on poin-to-point ethernet link]

2006-11-09 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Steve's 100% spot-on here. I don't have bogon filters at all and it hasn't hurt me in the least. I think the notion that this is somehow a good practice needs to be quashed. Some people don't use condoms with hookers either. Just because they haven't caught

Re: [c-nsp] [Re: huge amount of weird traffic on poin-to-point ethernet link]

2006-11-09 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
Niels Bakker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: * [EMAIL PROTECTED] (Robert E. Seastrom) [Thu 09 Nov 2006, 16:02 CET]: [..] Steve's 100% spot-on here. I don't have bogon filters at all and it hasn't hurt me in the least. I think the notion that this is somehow a good practice needs to be quashed

passports for NANOG-39, Toronto

2006-10-25 Thread Robert E. Seastrom
You may have heard that the US and Canada are going to start requiring passports for air travel between them beginning soon. That date is currently set as 8 Jan 2007, which is before February NANOG. MERIT has noted this on the web site, but a cursory check of my list archives didn't turn up

Re: Boeing's Connexion announcement

2006-10-16 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Fearghas McKay [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: At 11:29 -0400 15/10/06, vijay gill wrote: Is this your final answer? I've used AC power in lufthansa business class. Makes the 8 or 9 hour trip back to the states much more ditto KLM Business class in a 777. ditto NW in a 74.

Re: Boeing's Connexion announcement

2006-10-14 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Fascinating... of course, you can see where the confusion came from, particularly given the source of some of the components and the fact that they're not actually committed until they get the orders (hence, no satellite capacity online _today_). Thanks for the additional data; I'm sure

Re: Boeing's Connexion announcement

2006-10-13 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Renesys Todd thinks Panasonic is buying the thing. As I understand it, Panasonic's product is different, cheaper, and not a turnkey service (they don't have their own satellite transponder constellation). It is aimed at nation-states, not the commercial market.

Re: Armed Forces Information Service.

2006-09-28 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Jeff Shultz [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Supposedly there is a www.nic.mil as well, but it doesn't seem to be accessible from my location currently. DoDNIC Help Desk: 1-800-365-3642 1-614-692-2708 ---rob

Re: [OT] Connexion {Was: Re: [routing-wg]BGP Update Report}

2006-09-10 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Richard A Steenbergen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Duh. Did you ever read the numbers for Connexion? They managed to design a system which cost the airlines up to $1mil per plane to install, and only generated $80k/yr/plane total revenue (thats Boeing revenue not airline revenue). They had

Re: Data Center Wiring Standards

2006-09-09 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Rick Kunkel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Can anyone tell me the standard way to deal with patch panels, racks, and switches in a data center used for colocation? Network Cabling Handbook by Chris Clark is a bit dated (5 years old) but probably should be on your bookshelf anyway, particularly

Re: TCP receive window set to 0; DoS or not?

2006-09-08 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 7 Sep 2006, Joshua Brewer wrote: What about when we're seeing this on port 25? Sand worms. In all seriousness, your guess is as good as mine, at that point. If memory serves, the platforms we saw this on most, with web browsers, were mobile devices.

Re: Router / Protocol Problem

2006-09-07 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Network operator discovers that measures taken to mitigate an old network security measure, long past their sell-by date, are now causing random grief. Seems to me like bang on topic for NANOG. Agreed. Rare that people do haircuts on router configs; they're

Re: SORBS Contact

2006-08-10 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
I'm not picking on William here; his message was just the last I saw in this thread which has gotten way out of hand. I have not discussed this thread with my fellow list admin team members either, though we can do that... But it would make our (the list admin team's) lives easier, as well as

anyone from Yahoo here?

2006-07-30 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
This is kind of a disgrace. Hopefully public mention of it will cause repairs to happen. ---Rob ---BeginMessage--- This message was created automatically by mail delivery software. A message that you sent has not yet been delivered to one or more of its

Re: APC Matrix 5000 question(s)

2006-07-28 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I left for several hours and came back to the house stinking like burning rubber. The new batteries are apparently melting the terminal rubber insulation. I had to throw it back into bypass mode and unplug that pack (the only one with new batteries!) By terminal

Re: APC Matrix 5000 question(s)

2006-07-27 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I've had this APC Matrix 5000 with 3 XR battery packs for almost 6 years As others on the list have noted, your batteries are almost certainly ready to head off to the battery recycler. In terms of what to put inside the XR packs, they're Group 24 AGM batteries,

Re: Hot weather and power outages continue

2006-07-24 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Christopher L. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Mon, 24 Jul 2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: Come on Sean, this very few disruptions stuff is below your usual standards. The least you can do to help us pass the time in this damn heat is to recount a few good stories about routers you

Re: open letter to earthlink comcast please publish SPF data

2006-07-17 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Mark Jeftovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: So how about publishing some SPF data on your earthlink.net domain so ... Same goes for comcast. ... It's all but eliminated the backscatter we send to hotmail. If they can do it ditto Cox (guys... adelphia and roadrunner could do this, why

Re: Sitefinder II, the sequel...

2006-07-10 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Gerry Boudreaux [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It is not VeriSign this time. It is not even remotely the same as SiteFinder either. It requires people to make a conscious decision to use different nameservers than the ones they're currently using, and is likely to get the same or less level of

Re: Fanless x86 Server Recommendations

2006-06-30 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Joe Abley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 29-Jun-2006, at 14:25, Ray Van Dolson wrote: We're looking to acquire a couple small servers that can act as routers for us at remote locations. How small? :-) http://www.compulab.co.il/x270/html/x270-cm-datasheet.htm He wants x86; those are

Re: 2006.06.05 NANOG-NOTES Peering BOF notes

2006-06-06 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
vijay gill [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Matthew Petach wrote: Robert Seastrom--should you do v6 at all? Should you be a pioneer, and make the v6 people happy, sure, do it; if you want to make money, no. I think Alain from comcast had a different take on it. The specific context was should

Mailing list montly summary 1999-present

2006-06-05 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
As promised in the nanog-37 community meeting, here's a summary of monthly traffic from 1999 to present. The disclaimer here is that these numbers are approximate, as they are based on the date stamps on files in an mh-format mail directory, i.e. they're based on the time I fired up the mail

Re: Philly Carrier Hotels?

2006-04-28 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
401 North Broad, not West Broad - Broad runs N/S. It's not comparable with 60 Hudson, more like 165 Halsey, both in quality of the installation and character of the neighborhood. Haven't been in 1 Wilshire. 401 North Broad is the carrier hotel in Philly though... unless you're using Amtrak

Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism

2006-04-12 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
M. David Leonard [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: What is to prevent a network from providing unjittered NTP to its downstream clients/customers BUT jittered NTP to outsiders? How is this different from providing up-to-the-millisecond stock exchange data to paying customers but delaying the same

Re: Open Letter to D-Link about their NTP vandalism

2006-04-08 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Matt Ghali [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Companies behaving irresponsibly and releasing (selling!) code that abuses a shared public resource should not be the norm. The addresses that are configured into shipping Apple products for NTP are: time.apple.com time.asia.apple.com

Re: recommendations regarding IPS

2006-03-31 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Hegger, Stefan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: hope not bothering you but I'm looking for some experiences with IPS systems. There are several vendors but is there a recommandation or some tests? As Service provider we need a system which handles the scanning in hardware and it should work as a

Re: FYI - China To Launch Alternate Country Code Domains

2006-02-28 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Martin Hannigan [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: It may not be so clear cut. Check out Mark Jeftovic, a trusted source on DNS information, and a director of CIRA: http://blog.easydns.org/archives/60-China-Top-Level-Domain-news-possibly-not-news..html It has become clearer after trading a

Re: Split flows across Domains

2006-01-24 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Glen Kent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For example, an ISP can learn two different equal cost routes to a foo.com server via two different autonomous domains. It can thus split different flows (based on src-dest IP, src-dest Port, TOS, etc) across these two paths. Do operators currently do

Re: Split flows across Domains

2006-01-24 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Christopher L. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 24 Jan 2006, Robert E.Seastrom wrote: Glen Kent [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: For example, an ISP can learn two different equal cost routes to a foo.com server via two different autonomous domains. It can thus split different flows

Re: Split flows across Domains

2006-01-24 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Joe Abley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 24-Jan-2006, at 12:07, Robert E.Seastrom wrote: He said via two different autonomous domains, which I took to mean two upstreams... and my understanding is that (on ciscos anyway) you're talking per-packet, not per-flow load balancing. If you can get

Re: Split flows across Domains

2006-01-24 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Joe Abley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On 24-Jan-2006, at 13:09, Robert E.Seastrom wrote: Joe Abley [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If you can get two candidate routes for the same destination into the FIB, then you'll get per-flow load balancing as long as CEF is running, no? Yes and no. CEF

Re: The Backhoe: A Real Cyberthreat?

2006-01-19 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Jim Popovitch [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Jerry Pasker wrote: The point is: What's more damaging? Being open with the maps to EVERYONE can see where the problem areas are so they can design around them? (or chose not to) or pulling the maps, and reports, and sticking our heads in the sand,

Re: GoDaddy.com shuts down entire data center?

2006-01-17 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Matt Ghali [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Hear Hear. After reading the GoDaddy domain registration legal agreement, available at: https://www.godaddy.com/gdshop/legal_agreements/show_doc.asp?se=%2Bci=1839pageid=REG%5FSA especially section 7, Restriction of Services, Right of Refusal, I have to

Re: What do we mean when we say competition?

2005-11-26 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Henry Yen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: In (at least) the Long Island, NY market, Verizon FTTH/FIOS installers physically cut and decommission the copper upon fiber install. Bye-bye DSL competition. Since they won't bring back the copper even you don't like the FIOS service, it's permanent.

Re: Cisco 7200 + NPE-G1 / 7301

2005-11-18 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Ben Butler [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anyone got any comments about how good or otherwise the Cisco 7200 + NPE-G1 or 7301, both with 1GB of RAM, is as a eBGP router + L2TP terminator for DSL subs, in terms of scalability for bandwidth through put the number of VPDN sessions it can terminate

Re: the iab simplifies internet architecture!

2005-11-11 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Randy Bush [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: but it will be a classic. if you can get and edit it, send it to boing boing or /. Pearls before swine. In my rss aggregator, boingboing and /. are labeled a Directory for Dilettantes and News for Goobers respectively.

Re: classful routes redux

2005-11-03 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Please pardon the crossposting between ppml and nanog... Geoff Huston [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Why /48 rather than /47 or /49? - alignment to nibble boundaries to make DNS delegation easier. It has recently come to my attention that we are in error when we expect n[iy]bble to have the same

Re: Routers RAM and BGP table bloat

2005-10-21 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Nils Ketelsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Ben Butler wrote: if anyone had a view on what would happen if I managed to source an SDRAM of 512MB / 1GB of the same specification as the 256MB Cisco compatible memory that you use in an 7200 NPE225. Cisco say the maximum ram for that NPE is a

Re: And Now for Something Completely Different

2005-10-18 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Moore will likely have to continue to produce the solution. What happens if he can't? Silicon technology *is* topping out. What happens to v6 if every single household and business on the planet decides to multihome? I often wonder what would happen if IETF and NANOG were to collectively

Re: Operational impact of depeering

2005-10-10 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Hannigan, Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Oct 6, 2005, at 10:34 AM, Peter R. wrote: On 10/1/05, Cogent's network (AS174 -- a very old network) originated the equivalent of 1x /8 + 1x /9 -- that's 1.67% of the ends that constitute the global end-to-end network that we call

Re: (de)peering

2005-10-06 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Pekka Savola [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Thu, 6 Oct 2005 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: er... the first depeering flaps have -already- occured in IPv6 space. there are several (mostly EU-based) ISPs that refuse to peer w/ folks using 3ffe:: space and/or filter that prefix.

Re: [Misc][Rant] Internet router (straying slightly OT)

2005-09-30 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Sabri Berisha [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: To get an understanding of routing-protocols, begin with RIP[3] and perhaps run your own RIP-lab necromancy will be severely punished. ---rob

Re: Weird DNS issues for domains

2005-09-29 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Matthew Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Everything looks like it is configured properly on my servers but the customer is reporting that certain parents (VerizonDSL, Comcast, DirectWAY) can connect to certain website and not others. At this point I think the problem is with the DNS

Re: Weird DNS issues for domains

2005-09-29 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Matthew Crocker [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Yeah, yeah, that is overrated. If my site goes dark and my DNS goes down it doesn't really matter as the bandwidth and the web server will also be down. Having a live DNS server in another part of the country won't help if the access routers

Re: PRIX - Puerto RIco Internet Exchange

2005-09-27 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Mikael Abrahamsson [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: On Tue, 27 Sep 2005, Randy Bush wrote: Would it be improper to suggest that you pick a different acronym? :-) yes it would be. everything in language A has a strange connotation in some other language B. e.g., my name is great fun in

Re: Calling all NANOG'ers - idea for national hardware price quote registry

2005-09-17 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Marshall Eubanks [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Am I the only one who feels that an NDA, even an NDA with a vendor, is an agreement that should be honored ? I know they are silly in many case, but still... We certainly wish for our vendors to honor *their* NDAs with us, don't we? RIRs come

Re: CAT5 surge/lightning strike protection recommendations?

2005-09-14 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Todd Vierling [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Seriously, though, that's exactly what you're describing, and about what I'd suggest in a no-other-option scenario -- but if it's possible to pull fiber through the conduits, it would probably be far less expensive long term, or even medium term if

Re: mail service with no mx (was - Re: Computer systems blamed for feeble hurricane response?)

2005-09-14 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Joseph S D Yao [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Dave, I think the mail gateways back when the various networks were being put together into an internet had as their functional purpose unifying disparate networks. On the contrary, a firewall has as its purpose partitioning a network that

Re: 12/8 problems?

2005-09-09 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Israel, David B. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Actually, my practical solution to this one is max-prefixing your peers. It means you have to watch your peers slow growth, but frankly, you should be watching that anyway. Max-prefix is part of the battle. A corollary max-aggregate where for

Re: While Bush fiddles, New Orleans dies

2005-09-07 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Stephen J. Wilcox [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: wheres the ops in this? dont get me wrong, i'm sympathetic with new orleans and also definitely not a bush supporter but this is verging on incitement and i dont see the point of the post to here My guess: someone who doesn't like Paul (and

Re: level3.net in Chicago - high packet loss?!?

2005-09-06 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Network Fortius [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Anybody having any idea why such a high packet loss on lever3's network, in Chicago? End-user misinterpreting output from MTR. This network does not appear to have any packet loss end-to-end. ---Rob Stef:~

Re: Question about propagation and queuing delays

2005-08-22 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Howard, W. Lee [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Do carrier ISPs classify their voice traffic as Really Important, and everybody else's data as Best Effort? This isn't just selfishness, since We All Know voice is less tolerant of latency and jitter than TCP. We do? Try to keep a

Re: Question about propagation and queuing delays

2005-08-21 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
David Hagel [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Would there be any data out there on what fraction from this 60ms to 80ms RTT is raw propagation delay and what fraction is typical packet queuing delay at intermediate switches? Does queuing delay play much of a role at all these days? Or is it all

Re: DSL Network Design Question

2005-08-14 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I am going to be cutting over about 75,000 DSL lines from one core network to another. Does anyone have recommendations on subnet and DHCP scope size? If I make them /23s I have to do about 145 subents. If I make them /22s I only have to do

Re: Cisco crapaganda

2005-08-10 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: If not, once again, I'd ask you to cite sources rather than make broad sweeping statements about what is already available. Appealing to some anonymous authority in order to claim the sky is falling is hardly endearing. I think that people who specialise in

Re: Your router/switch may be less secure than you think

2005-08-03 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We should all be looking to the security auditing work done by the OpenBSD team for an example of how systems can be cleaned up, fixed, and locked down if there is a will to do so. Beer, unsupported assertions, and lack of rigorous audit methodology can be blended

NETGEAR in the core...

2005-07-30 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
OK, not really in the core, but the subject made you look at least. :) I'm interested in people's experiences with consumer-grade routers functioning in non-NAT mode; that is to say, running PPPoE to the ISP and routing a /29 or a /28. A sane filtering language and stateful firewall that can

Re: Non-English Domain Names Likely Delayed

2005-07-18 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Stephane Bortzmeyer [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: Already, some 21 TLDs are whitelisted, including .cn, .tw, a number of European ccTLDs, .museum, and .info. Any other registrars who want to be supported can simply E-mail Gerv at the Mozilla Foundation, or his Opera counterpart, and give them a

Re: London incidents

2005-07-11 Thread Robert E . Seastrom
Brad Knowles [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: There were lower levels of priority that you could also use, but flash was the top one that I heard about. The four buttons on the 1633 row of an AUTOVON telephone are labeled P, I, F, and FO for Priority, Immediate, Flash, and Flash-Override. The

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