Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-10-02 Thread Austin
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: eek! There are a couple of downsides to having the router-ID divorced from a physical address: 1) you get an additional number which you have to have to track to ensure uniqueness. 2) you lose the benefit of being able to double check reachability (ping/ssh to rout

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-10-02 Thread David Barak
--- Austin <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > It's worth noting that C's don't need actual IP > address space assigned to > the router-id for OSPF. It's just an arbitrary > value; it's probably better > karma to set it to whatever you want (maybe > something that doesn't look > like an IP addre

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-30 Thread Austin
It's worth noting that C's don't need actual IP address space assigned to the router-id for OSPF. It's just an arbitrary value; it's probably better karma to set it to whatever you want (maybe something that doesn't look like an IP address). RFC 2328: Router ID A 32-bit nu

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-30 Thread Sean Figgins
On Fri, 30 Sep 2005, Christopher L. Morrow wrote: > ospf doesn't, for router-id on cisco's atleast, as Warren pointed out :( > however! switching from ospf to 'another igp' (ISIS would work well) would > avoid that, slide off ospf and onto ISIS, kill ospf when all next-hops > switch, which should

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Thu, 29 Sep 2005, Wayne E. Bouchard wrote: > > Of course, you can always pre-deploy ibgp sessions and TE configs to > the new address (which will remain down until the new address exists), > go for your OOB access to the box, change the loopback IP address (and > associated references), "clea

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread Wayne E. Bouchard
On Fri, Sep 30, 2005 at 12:14:46AM +0100, Ian Dickinson wrote: > > Randy Bush wrote: > >>Personally, the cleanest way I've been able to accomplish changing this > >>in regard to OSPF, logging and authentication on Cisco's is to suck > >>down the running config, make the changes in your editor o

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread Ian Dickinson
Randy Bush wrote: >>Personally, the cleanest way I've been able to accomplish changing this >>in regard to OSPF, logging and authentication on Cisco's is to suck >>down the running config, make the changes in your editor of choice, >>push it back up to startup-config and schedule a reboot. iBG

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread Jake Khuon
### On Thu, 29 Sep 2005 13:25:48 -0700, Bruce Pinsky <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> ### casually decided to expound upon Randy Bush <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> the ### following thoughts about "Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks": BP> > what [else] am i missing? BP> BP> In addition

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread Bruce Pinsky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Randy Bush wrote: > so i have junipers, ciscos, and a few zebras in an ospf > and ibgp mesh. they're peering via loopbacks, of course. > unfortunately, i need to recover the space from which the > loopbacks are taken. of course, i would like to do

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread Stacy W. Smith
On Sep 29, 2005, at 12:05 PM, Randy Bush wrote: so i have junipers, ciscos, and a few zebras in an ospf and ibgp mesh. they're peering via loopbacks, of course. unfortunately, i need to recover the space from which the loopbacks are taken. of course, i would like to do so with minimal disrup

RE: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread Neil J. McRae
> > this is my fear. which is why i asked. pushing out new > configs (the canonic config is on disk, not the router [0]) > and setting a reload of a bunch of routers at time t0 does > not give me warm fuzzies about what the world will be like at > time tn (n > 0). > > but i may have to ta

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread Randy Bush
> Personally, the cleanest way I've been able to accomplish changing this > in regard to OSPF, logging and authentication on Cisco's is to suck > down the running config, make the changes in your editor of choice, > push it back up to startup-config and schedule a reboot. iBGP is much > easie

Re: [eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread David Sinn
Are you using any logging-source or source interface for your authentication on the boxes? I've found that most versions of IOS require a reboot to accept a change of these. Similarly, OSPF under IOS will need a bounce/reboot to change it's router-ID if you are using the loopback for that.

[eng/rtg] changing loopbacks

2005-09-29 Thread Randy Bush
so i have junipers, ciscos, and a few zebras in an ospf and ibgp mesh. they're peering via loopbacks, of course. unfortunately, i need to recover the space from which the loopbacks are taken. of course, i would like to do so with minimal disruption. i am thinking of something like the followin