Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-06 Thread Michael . Dillon
How about INOC-DBA, which is supposed to have a clue threshold you obtained an ASN by some means in order to have a dial-by-asn phone. Obtaining an ASN isn't much of a clue threshold. However, obtaining an ASN is a volume threshold which is far more important to the people on the

RE: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-04 Thread Wayne Gustavus (nanog)
] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Christopher L. Morrow Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 4:31 PM To: Richard A Steenbergen Cc: Sean Donelan; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA? On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: And then of course

RE: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-04 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, Henry Linneweh wrote: The only reference I see to this, is this non profit research org www.pch.net/inoc-dba/ and a Nanog reference page to the same thing http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0505/upadhaya.html that would be it... I'm sure that, aside from the presentation and

RE: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-04 Thread Henry Linneweh
] On Behalf Of Christopher L. Morrow Sent: Friday, February 03, 2006 4:31 PM To: Richard A Steenbergen Cc: Sean Donelan; nanog@merit.edu Subject: Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA? On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: And then of course there is that whole using

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-04 Thread Jeroen Massar
Something I (unless skipped) didn't see being mentioned in the former threads was: http://www.peeringdb.com, although meant for peerings it does contain quite a large number of direct links/phones to various NOC's and a lot of other very useful information. On Fri, 2006-02-03 at 15:59 -0500,

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-04 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, Jeroen Massar wrote: Maybe the RIR's should keep a Free VoIP phone with each ASN special? NIC.BR, the Brazilian NIR, does exactly that... they've given out about 200 INOC-DBA phones with ASNs in the last three years. NetNod does the same in Sweden, and the WAIA

RE: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-04 Thread Bill Woodcock
On Sat, 4 Feb 2006, Henry Linneweh wrote: The only reference I see to this, is this non profit research org www.pch.net/inoc-dba/ and a Nanog reference page to the same thing http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0505/upadhaya.html Yes, those are correct URLs. Quite a few SBC

RE: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-04 Thread Randy Bush
I believe SBC was one of the pilot users in 1993. using what protocol set? randy

RE: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-04 Thread Bill Woodcock
I believe SBC was one of the pilot users in 1993. using what protocol set? Sorry, 2003. -Bill

Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Sean Donelan
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: Until someone invents a universally recognized system where you can call and say Hi I'm CCIE #12345, I'm certified to know what I'm talking about and I have an actual network issue, please transfer me to someone with clue, we're going to

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Aaron Glenn
On 2/3/06, Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about INOC-DBA, which is supposed to have a clue threshold you obtained an ASN by some means in order to have a dial-by-asn phone. Obtaining an ASN isn't much of a clue threshold.

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Feb 3, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Aaron Glenn wrote: On 2/3/06, Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about INOC-DBA, which is supposed to have a clue threshold you obtained an ASN by some means in order to have a dial-by-asn phone. Obtaining an ASN isn't much of a clue threshold. Knowing

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Wayne E. Bouchard
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 03:08:27PM -0500, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: On Feb 3, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Aaron Glenn wrote: On 2/3/06, Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about INOC-DBA, which is supposed to have a clue threshold you obtained an ASN by some means in order to have a

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Tom Vest
On Feb 3, 2006, at 2:57 PM, Aaron Glenn wrote: On 2/3/06, Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about INOC-DBA, which is supposed to have a clue threshold you obtained an ASN by some means in order to have a dial-by-asn phone. Obtaining an ASN isn't much of a clue threshold. If

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Fri, Feb 03, 2006 at 02:34:16PM -0500, Sean Donelan wrote: On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: Until someone invents a universally recognized system where you can call and say Hi I'm CCIE #12345, I'm certified to know what I'm talking about and I have an actual network

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Jon Lewis
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Aaron Glenn wrote: On 2/3/06, Sean Donelan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about INOC-DBA, which is supposed to have a clue threshold you obtained an ASN by some means in order to have a dial-by-asn phone. Obtaining an ASN isn't much of a clue threshold. No...and

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Joe Abley
On 3-Feb-2006, at 15:59, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: With all due respect to the INOC-DBA project, which is actually somewhat interesting (from a I want to play with free IP phones too perspective if nothing else), it isn't a workable solution to operational contacts yet. I think you

Re: Anyone heard of INOC-DBA?

2006-02-03 Thread Christopher L. Morrow
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: And then of course there is that whole using the IP network to contact someone about an IP network issue thing that doesn't seem terribly well thought out... Admittedly I haven't looked at the INOC-DBA stuff in a while, there could have been