Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-14 Thread Bjørn Mork
Chris L. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: that sets a lower-bar on TTL in the nscd cache - (from the manpage for nscd.con) positive-time-to-live cachename value Sets the time-to-live for positive entries (successful queries) in the specified cache. value is in

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-14 Thread Chris L. Morrow
On Tue, 14 Aug 2007, [iso-8859-1] Bjørn Mork wrote: Chris L. Morrow [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: This is still a client issue as, hopefully, the cache-resolvers don't funnel their business through nscd save when applications on them need lookups... (things like

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-13 Thread Florian Weimer
* Rodney Joffe: Do you have any real examples of significant recursive servers doing this? nscd in GNU libc has issues related to cache expiry. I'm not sure if it is general brokenness, or some TTL-related issue. It's use is not terribly widespread, and it's a host-specific cache only, but

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-13 Thread Rodney Joffe
On Aug 13, 2007, at 2:25 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: * Rodney Joffe: Do you have any real examples of significant recursive servers doing this? nscd in GNU libc has issues related to cache expiry. I'm not sure if it is general brokenness, or some TTL-related issue. It's use is not

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-13 Thread Chris L. Morrow
On Mon, 13 Aug 2007, Rodney Joffe wrote: On Aug 13, 2007, at 2:25 AM, Florian Weimer wrote: * Rodney Joffe: Do you have any real examples of significant recursive servers doing this? nscd in GNU libc has issues related to cache expiry. I'm not sure if it is general

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-11 Thread Chris L. Morrow
On Fri, 10 Aug 2007, Max Inux wrote: Of course the CDN wouldn't know or care, it would however possibly lead to that user experiencing negative performance or availability outside the realm of the CDN's control. I know where we are we move things via dns atleast 2xTTL early, usually more,

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-10 Thread Brandon Butterworth
How do you engineer around enterprise and ISP recursors that don't honor TTL, instead caching DNS records for a week or more? Ask their users to tell them to stop being muppets brandon

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-10 Thread Rodney Joffe
On Aug 9, 2007, at 10:55 PM, Paul Reubens wrote: How do you engineer around enterprise and ISP recursors that don't honor TTL, instead caching DNS records for a week or more? In my little bit of research and experience over the last 10 years in this field, I have often pursued this

RE: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-10 Thread andrew2
Rodney Joffe wrote: On Aug 9, 2007, at 10:55 PM, Paul Reubens wrote: How do you engineer around enterprise and ISP recursors that don't honor TTL, instead caching DNS records for a week or more? In my little bit of research and experience over the last 10 years in this field, I have

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-10 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 10, 2007, at 12:46 PM, John Levine wrote: Very interesting. We've all heard and probably all passed along that little bromide at one time or another. Is it possible that at one time it was true (even possibly for AOL) but with the rise of CDNs, policies of not honoring TTL's

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-10 Thread Warren Kumari
On Aug 10, 2007, at 1:55 AM, Paul Reubens wrote: How do you engineer around enterprise and ISP recursors that don't honor TTL, instead caching DNS records for a week or more? A friend of mine was working for a place that performed some service on data (not important what, you send them

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-10 Thread Rodney Joffe
On Aug 10, 2007, at 9:13 AM, Max Inux wrote: Working for a content delivery network I can tell you that there are many nameservers ignoring TTL that affect many users (AOL being the largest american one). Coincidentally AOL users aren't nearly so affected by that as they are that

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-10 Thread Crist Clark
On 8/10/2007 at 11:55 AM, Patrick W. Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 10, 2007, at 12:46 PM, John Levine wrote: Very interesting. We've all heard and probably all passed along that little bromide at one time or another. Is it possible that at one time it was true (even

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-10 Thread Chris L. Morrow
On Aug 10, 2007, at 9:13 AM, Max Inux wrote: Working for a content delivery network I can tell you that there are many nameservers ignoring TTL that affect many users (AOL being the largest american one). Coincidentally AOL users aren't So, I'd also ask this, do you know it's the

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-09 Thread Paul Reubens
How do you engineer around enterprise and ISP recursors that don't honor TTL, instead caching DNS records for a week or more? On 8/7/07, Patrick W.Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Aug 7, 2007, at 10:05 AM, Michal Krsek wrote: 5) User redirection - You have to implement a scalable

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-07 Thread Michal Krsek
; nanog@merit.edu Sent: Monday, August 06, 2007 23:10 Subject: Content Delivery Networks Can anyone give a breakdown of the different kinds of content deliver networks? For example, we have Akamai, which appears to be a pure Layer 3 network that is tailored to pushing relatively small files

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-07 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 7, 2007, at 3:59 AM, Michal Krsek wrote: 5) User redirection - You have to implement a scalable mechanisms that redirects users to the closes POP. You can use application redirect (fast, but not so much scalable), DNS redirect (scalable, but not so fast) or anycasting (this needs

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-07 Thread Michal Krsek
Hi Patrick, 5) User redirection - You have to implement a scalable mechanisms that redirects users to the closes POP. You can use application redirect (fast, but not so much scalable), DNS redirect (scalable, but not so fast) or anycasting (this needs cooperation with ISP). What is

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-07 Thread Patrick W.Gilmore
On Aug 7, 2007, at 10:05 AM, Michal Krsek wrote: 5) User redirection - You have to implement a scalable mechanisms that redirects users to the closes POP. You can use application redirect (fast, but not so much scalable), DNS redirect (scalable, but not so fast) or anycasting (this

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-07 Thread Michal Krsek
5) User redirection - You have to implement a scalable mechanisms that redirects users to the closes POP. You can use application redirect (fast, but not so much scalable), DNS redirect (scalable, but not so fast) or anycasting (this needs cooperation with ISP). What is slow about

Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-06 Thread Rod Beck
, that focuses on bigger files like video streams. Any insights out there? And what are the major challenges in making scalable content delivery networks? Roderick S. Beck Director of EMEA Sales Hibernia Atlantic 1, Passage du Chantier, 75012 Paris http://www.hiberniaatlantic.com Wireless: 1-212-444

Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-06 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
that when they acquired Exodus, who bought way DI back when), LLNW, and att all have their own backbones. Any insights out there? And what are the major challenges in making scalable content delivery networks? Myriad. Some are hard to overcome, some are very hard. Keyword here being

small correction Re: Content Delivery Networks

2007-08-06 Thread Scott Weeks
, the bad 'ol days... ;-) scott --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: From: Patrick W. Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: nanog@merit.edu Cc: Patrick W. Gilmore [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Content Delivery Networks Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 20:08:06 -0400 On Aug 6, 2007, at 5:10 PM, Rod Beck wrote

Content Delivery Networks/GSLB

2004-11-08 Thread M. Huda
Hello, I am wondering if somebody can point me to the links where I can found information about Content Delivery Network Solutions used in the market today. I need to know about the technology and how the solution/company (such as Akamai) caters its customers. Do they mirror the content across

Re: Content Delivery Networks/GSLB

2004-11-08 Thread Scott Weeks
On Mon, 8 Nov 2004, M. Huda wrote: : market today. I need to know about the technology and how the : solution/company (such as Akamai) caters its customers. Do they mirror : the content across their server's network? If this is the case then : how a request is directed to the closest and

Re: Content Delivery Networks/GSLB

2004-11-08 Thread alex
I need to know about the technology and how the solution/company (such as Akamai) caters its customers. Do they mirror the content across their server's network? If this is the case then how a request is directed to the closest and lightly loaded server on Internet? There are other hardware