Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-09 Thread Florian Weimer
* Jeremy Chadwick: > On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 09:10:31PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: >> > Has anyone come up with a quick method for detecting if a domain >> > name is parked, but is not being used except displaying ads? >> >> AFAICT, the main challenge is to define what "parked" means in the >>

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-03 Thread Peter Dambier
No, it does not look good :) ; <<>> DiG 9.1.3 <<>> -t any eoileon.com ;; global options: printcmd ;; Got answer: ;; ->>HEADER<<- opcode: QUERY, status: NOERROR, id: 47446 ;; flags: qr rd ra; QUERY: 1, ANSWER: 2, AUTHORITY: 2, ADDITIONAL: 2 ;; QUESTION SECTION: ;eoileon.com. I

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-03 Thread Duane Wessels
On Thu, 3 Aug 2006, Joe Abley said: Do you have an example of a parked domain with no SOA record? eoileon.com tri-cityhearald.com Surely for that to work for most of the domains we're talking about, the parking companies would need to be able to insert arbitrary records into zones such as

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-03 Thread David Ulevitch
On Aug 2, 2006, at 2:03 PM, Sean Donelan wrote: There seems to be DNSBL's for every other thing, I was expecting to find one for parked domain names or the server IP addresses used. That's not hard. It's the value of providing it I question. It only encourages them to start putting syn

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-03 Thread Joe Abley
On 3-Aug-2006, at 04:05, Duane Wessels wrote: I am looking for a way that you, or anyone else, could indicate a domain should not be considered "in service" although the name is registered and has an A record pointing to an active server so when I check that name it doesn't require a hum

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-03 Thread Peter Dambier
Duane Wessels wrote: I am looking for a way that you, or anyone else, could indicate a domain should not be considered "in service" although the name is registered and has an A record pointing to an active server so when I check that name it doesn't require a human to interpret the results.

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-03 Thread Duane Wessels
I am looking for a way that you, or anyone else, could indicate a domain should not be considered "in service" although the name is registered and has an A record pointing to an active server so when I check that name it doesn't require a human to interpret the results. You might be able to us

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread Suresh Ramasubramanian
On 8/3/06, Jim Popovitch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: Don't parked domains exist on a registrar owned IP? I would think a list could be built from spending some time contacting each registrar (http://www.icann.org/registrars/accredited-list.html). ;-) Not always. You will find several registra

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread Jim Popovitch
Sean Donelan wrote: On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: I have over 100 domains on my personal web server. _NONE_ of them are parked, although not all have web pages (and of the ones that do, none have ads). I tried not to attribute malice on the part of domain parking operators. I

RE: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread David Schwartz
> Parked: >A domain hosted by a middle-man for the sole purpose of generating >revenue from pay-per-click advertising. Characterized by having no >content of value. > > This definition *might* work for NANOG, but my parking friends would > disagree with the above. If this is

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread Sean Donelan
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: > I have over 100 domains on my personal web server. _NONE_ of them > are parked, although not all have web pages (and of the ones that do, > none have ads). I tried not to attribute malice on the part of domain parking operators. I am looking for a

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread ennova2005-nanog
Although the original poster did not state a reason for why they wanted to detect such a domain - others have since suggested that the web site content on such a "parked domain" is of no (original) value since only ads run on such a site.By that definition all billboards or stand alone advertising

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Patrick W. Gilmore wrote: I doubt we're "famous". How are you going to be able to tell they aren't parked? Pull up the web page on a few domains to see what they look like? Check all 1000 manually? Half? Whose business is it. Who cares? -- Requiescas in pace o email Ex turpi causa n

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread Patrick W. Gilmore
On Aug 2, 2006, at 5:37 PM, Peter Dambier wrote: How about creating a database domain(domain_owner,domain_name) and then querying by domain_owner. If the guy has more than 100 he looks like a squatter and can me manually looked at. And if you are not famous? I have over 100 domains on my p

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread Peter Dambier
Sean Donelan wrote: On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Florian Weimer wrote: Has anyone come up with a quick method for detecting if a domain name is parked, but is not being used except displaying ads? AFAICT, the main challenge is to define what "parked" means in the context of your application. There

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread Cory Whitesell
The trouble I see with this, is that legitimate web hosts commonly run several domains off one server, distinguishing by host headers. So assuming that because 10 domains point at the same IP they must be parked, is a bad assumption. william(at)elan.net wrote: On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Rick Wess

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr.
Randy Bush wrote: i know this will come as a shock, but there ar eother uses for domain names than web sites Surely you jest! Surely a domain with no listener on port 80 or 25 is not a legitimate domain. -- Requiescas in pace o email Ex turpi causa non oritur actio http://members.cox.net

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Cory Whitesell wrote: The trouble I see with this, is that legitimate web hosts commonly run several domains off one server, distinguishing by host headers. So assuming that because 10 domains point at the same IP they must be parked, is a bad assumption. It is. You need

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread Randy Bush
i know this will come as a shock, but there ar eother uses for domain names than web sites

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread Sean Donelan
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Florian Weimer wrote: > > Has anyone come up with a quick method for detecting if a domain > > name is parked, but is not being used except displaying ads? > > AFAICT, the main challenge is to define what "parked" means in the > context of your application. There seems to be D

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Wed, 2 Aug 2006, Rick Wesson wrote: Parked: A domain hosted by a middle-man for the sole purpose of generating revenue from pay-per-click advertising. Characterized by having no content of value. this needs to be "no original content of value" BTW - for those who are still wondering a

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread Roland Perry
In article <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>, Jeremy Chadwick <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> writes AFAICT, the main challenge is to define what "parked" means in the context of your application. It seemed quite obvious to me: he's talking about domain squatting. "Parking" is just a euphemism. I have domains (and o

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread Rick Wesson
Parked: A domain hosted by a middle-man for the sole purpose of generating revenue from pay-per-click advertising. Characterized by having no content of value. This definition *might* work for NANOG, but my parking friends would disagree with the above. Florian Weimer wrote: * Sean D

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Wed, Aug 02, 2006 at 09:10:31PM +0200, Florian Weimer wrote: > > Has anyone come up with a quick method for detecting if a domain > > name is parked, but is not being used except displaying ads? > > AFAICT, the main challenge is to define what "parked" means in the > context of your applicatio

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread Randy Bush
>> Has anyone come up with a quick method for detecting if a domain >> name is parked, but is not being used except displaying ads? > AFAICT, the main challenge is to define what "parked" means in the > context of your application. look at the time left on the parking meter

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-02 Thread Florian Weimer
* Sean Donelan: > Has anyone come up with a quick method for detecting if a domain > name is parked, but is not being used except displaying ads? AFAICT, the main challenge is to define what "parked" means in the context of your application.

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-01 Thread Rick Wesson
I have a large list of parked domains how would you like to query it and why do you want to? -rick Sean Donelan wrote: Has anyone come up with a quick method for detecting if a domain name is parked, but is not being used except displaying ads? I'm hoping there is other method besides chasi

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-01 Thread Peter Dambier
Stephane Bortzmeyer wrote: On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 03:35:40PM -0400, Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 6 lines which said: Has anyone come up with a quick method for detecting if a domain name is parked, but is not being used except displaying ads? I don't think it is

Re: Detecting parked domains

2006-08-01 Thread Stephane Bortzmeyer
On Tue, Aug 01, 2006 at 03:35:40PM -0400, Sean Donelan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote a message of 6 lines which said: > Has anyone come up with a quick method for detecting if a domain > name is parked, but is not being used except displaying ads? I don't think it is possible: "being parked" cann

Detecting parked domains

2006-08-01 Thread Sean Donelan
Has anyone come up with a quick method for detecting if a domain name is parked, but is not being used except displaying ads? I'm hoping there is other method besides chasing a list of constantly changing IP addresses being used by the parking advertising companies.