Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

2007-09-26 Thread Donald Stahl
I'll post some pictures when I get a chance. http://www.neener.info/gallery/v/cagebrackets/ In case anyone cares- those are the brackets we made. -Don

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

2007-09-13 Thread Martin Hannigan
On 9/12/07, Ross Vandegrift [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 08:36:45AM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: This (the general subject of how to keep real-world cabinets tidy and do cabling in a sane way) seems like an excellent topic for a NANOG tutorial. I'd come, for sure :-) This

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

2007-09-12 Thread Joe Abley
On 11-Sep-2007, at 1514, Justin M. Streiner wrote: Some of the local old-school Bell Atlantic/Verizon techs also did very clean work, but most of them took the early retirement packages that were offered 4-5 years ago. This (the general subject of how to keep real-world cabinets tidy and

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

2007-09-12 Thread Ross Vandegrift
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 08:36:45AM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: This (the general subject of how to keep real-world cabinets tidy and do cabling in a sane way) seems like an excellent topic for a NANOG tutorial. I'd come, for sure :-) This is a topic that I am quite interested in. I have no

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

2007-09-12 Thread Donald Stahl
Does anyone know if any good resources on best-practices at this sort of thing? I'm pretty sure that others must've already figured out the trickier stuff that I've thought about. Most good cabling jobs require one thing- dedication. If you are willing to put in the time and effort, you can

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

2007-09-12 Thread Joe Greco
On Wed, Sep 12, 2007 at 08:36:45AM -0400, Joe Abley wrote: This (the general subject of how to keep real-world cabinets tidy and do cabling in a sane way) seems like an excellent topic for a NANOG tutorial. I'd come, for sure :-) This is a topic that I am quite interested in. I

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

2007-09-12 Thread Donald Stahl
Then again, sometimes it requires a whole lot more dedication. In our case the racks we inherited were installed wrong (no space between them for vertical cable management). Getting our cabling organized meant welding our own cable management brackets that we could bolt onto the front of the

Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

2007-09-11 Thread Scott Weeks
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Scott Weeks wrote: --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: - Note that telcos are not immune to shoddy cabling/installation work. snip http://www.cluebyfour.org/~streiner/mbr-pop-2000-ladder.JPG Do that at the

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

2007-09-11 Thread Justin M. Streiner
On Tue, 11 Sep 2007, Scott Weeks wrote: It was brought to my attention that some of the folks here may not have ever seen good wiring, so I snapped a few photos of good wiring here and wrote a quickie web page for the photos. I couldn't get pictures of Ethernet wiring, but it's the same.

Re: Good Stuff [was] Re: shameful-cabling gallery of infamy - does anybody know where it went?

2007-09-11 Thread Scott Weeks
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Some of the local old-school Bell Atlantic/Verizon techs also did very clean work, but most of them took the early retirement packages that were offered 4-5 years ago. - That's what's happening here. A lot of the