Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-26 Thread Pawlukiewicz Jane
Hi Christopher, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: Jane, This brings up a good point about IM. IMHO, IM is a security risk and I am establishing a company standard where users behind the firewall are prohibited from using IM, IRC, and peer-to-peer file sharing programs. My opinion is that

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-26 Thread Scott Weeks
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Rizzo Frank wrote: : Chris, : : By IM I assume you're referring to Instant Messaging as an ideal, not : any particular protocol or vendor implementation. Which begs the : question, is IM is a risk because Christopher J. Wolff, VP CIO a : self-proclaimed tier 1 provider,

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-26 Thread Stephen Sprunk
Thus spake Scott Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] Your proprietary information is on someone else's server and it's up to them not to 'use' it. There are IM products which a company can set up internally for exactly this reason. For public IM servers, you're not obligated to give proprietary

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-26 Thread Scott Weeks
On Wed, 26 Jun 2002, Stephen Sprunk wrote: : Thus spake Scott Weeks [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Your proprietary information is on someone else's server and it's up to : them not to 'use' it. : : There are IM products which a company can set up internally for exactly this : reason. For public IM

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-26 Thread Scott Francis
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 12:16:48PM -0700, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: [snip] This brings up a good point about IM. IMHO, IM is a security risk and I am establishing a company standard where users behind the firewall are prohibited from using IM, IRC, and peer-to-peer file sharing programs. My

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-26 Thread Scott Francis
On Tue, Jun 25, 2002 at 11:33:55PM +0100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] said: Doug Barton wrote: Would a secure (probably via SSL) chat client be considered a valuable item in this sphere? (Note, blatant self interest involved in this question, feel free to respond off list.) Jabber can do SSL for

How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Christopher J. Wolff
Jane, This brings up a good point about IM. IMHO, IM is a security risk and I am establishing a company standard where users behind the firewall are prohibited from using IM, IRC, and peer-to-peer file sharing programs. My opinion is that these types of programs contribute more to lack of

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Dan Hollis
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: So my question for the group is, do chat programs (IM, IRC, yahoo) serve a substantial network support purpose or are they more of a distraction, allowing staff to communicate with friends, relatives, drifters, interlopers on company time? We

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Jason Lewis
So my question for the group is, do chat programs (IM, IRC, yahoo) serve a substantial network support purpose or are they more of a distraction, allowing staff to communicate with friends, relatives, drifters, interlopers on company time? I disagree. I have spent many hours in a noisy

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Grant A. Kirkwood
On Tuesday 25 June 2002 12:16 pm, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: Jane, This brings up a good point about IM. IMHO, IM is a security risk and I am establishing a company standard where users behind the firewall are prohibited from using IM, IRC, and peer-to-peer file sharing programs. My

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread ren
PGP Corporate Desktop can help with ICQ if you are a Windows user. -ren, who prefers IRC At 12:24 PM 6/25/2002 -0700, Dan Hollis wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: So my question for the group is, do chat programs (IM, IRC, yahoo) serve a substantial network support

RE: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Daniel Golding
there may effect your operations. - Daniel Golding -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Christopher J. Wolff Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 3:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN Jane

RE: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread James Smith
Title: RE: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN -Original Message- From: Christopher J. Wolff [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 3:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN So my question

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread deeann mikula
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Dan Hollis wrote: On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, Christopher J. Wolff wrote: So my question for the group is, do chat programs (IM, IRC, yahoo) serve a substantial network support purpose or are they more of a distraction, allowing staff to communicate with friends,

RE: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Jim Popovitch
-Original Message- From: Jason Lewis Instead of banning, you should be looking into a secure IM client. Several companies make secure clients that also link up to the major players via a gateway. Trillian is a combined (AIM, Y!, ICQ, IRC) client that supports secure direct P2P

RE: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Rishi Singh
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 3:17 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN Jane, This brings up a good point about IM. IMHO, IM is a security risk and I am establishing

Re: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Scott Weeks
On Tue, 25 Jun 2002, ren wrote: : PGP Corporate Desktop can help with ICQ if you are a Windows user. : -ren, who prefers IRC Not for long... http://zdnet.com.com/2100-1107-851515.html A week ago, on Feb. 26, Network Associates (NAI) sent an e-mail to some of its customers

RE: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN

2002-06-25 Thread Scott Weeks
. Wolff : Sent: Tuesday, June 25, 2002 3:17 PM : To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] : Subject: How important is IM? was RE: How important is the PSTN : : : : Jane, : : This brings up a good point about IM. IMHO, IM is a security : risk and I am : establishing a company standard where users behind