Re: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-14 Thread Warren Kumari
On Nov 13, 2006, at 9:20 AM, chuck goolsbee wrote: [SNIP] ** I assume it is myth, but I've never heard anyone from Google make any statements that definitively debunks it. Debunking this pervasive among webmasters and SEO Experts myth sure would be a very UN-evil thing to do if true

Re: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-14 Thread Chris L. Morrow
On Tue, 14 Nov 2006, Warren Kumari wrote: On Nov 13, 2006, at 9:20 AM, chuck goolsbee wrote: It pisses me off to no end when a sales guy comes to me with a request from a customer for a /20 for a half-rack of web servers. The justification ALWAYS comes down to this inane search engine

Re: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-14 Thread Albert Meyer
The myth that I've heard relates to links. From the comments on Matt's blog: 500 sites under the same IP interlinked in some way will provide the same benefit as 500 sites on uniques similarly interlinked all other things held constant? The answer to this question almost has to be no. A

Re: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-14 Thread chuck goolsbee
At 9:50 AM -0800 11/14/06, Warren Kumari wrote: On Nov 13, 2006, at 9:20 AM, chuck goolsbee wrote: ** I assume it is myth, but I've never heard anyone from Google make any statements that definitively debunks it. Debunking this pervasive among webmasters and SEO Experts myth sure would be a

Re: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-14 Thread Bill Stewart
On 11/13/06, chuck goolsbee [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It pisses me off to no end when a sales guy comes to me with a request from a customer for a /20 for a half-rack of web servers. The justification ALWAYS comes down to this inane search engine optimization pipe dream. =\ No, no, it's

Re: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-14 Thread Jeremy Chadwick
On Mon, Nov 13, 2006 at 09:20:38AM -0800, chuck goolsbee wrote: It pisses me off to no end when a sales guy comes to me with a request from a customer for a /20 for a half-rack of web servers. The justification ALWAYS comes down to this inane search engine optimization pipe dream. =\

RE: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-14 Thread Howard, W. Lee
-Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of David Hubbard Sent: Monday, November 13, 2006 11:42 AM To: nanog@merit.edu Subject: RE: IP adresss management verification What I meant was we require a technical justification to give

Re: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-13 Thread Kanagaraj Krishna
Hi, I'm curious on how regional RIR which allocates ip address, verifies the usage pattern info provided by their members in their application process. Especially ISP requesting for additional allocations (80% utilization, adhered policies etc). Thanks. Regards, Kana

Re: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-13 Thread Michael . Dillon
I'm curious on how regional RIR which allocates ip address, verifies the usage pattern info provided by their members in their application process. It's quite simple, really. They ask for it. If the iformation that you provided with your application does not answer their questions,

Re: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-13 Thread John Curran
At 10:35 PM +0800 11/13/06, Kanagaraj Krishna wrote: Hi, I'm curious on how regional RIR which allocates ip address, verifies the usage pattern info provided by their members in their application process. Same as other most other filings: A signed and notarized statement from a company

Re: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-13 Thread MAEMURA Akinori
Michael's answer is clear enough, and my simplest answer is ask APNIC. John's more interesting question is also mine ;-) . Regards, MAEMURA Akinori In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] Re: IP adresss management verification John Curran [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | At 10:35 PM +0800 11

RE: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-13 Thread David Hubbard
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] It's quite simple, really. They ask for it. If the iformation that you provided with your application does not answer their questions, they ask you for more information. I assume that all the RIRs will sign an NDA with you, certainly ARIN does this. ARIN may

Re: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-13 Thread Valdis . Kletnieks
On Mon, 13 Nov 2006 10:36:44 EST, John Curran said: A more interesting question might be: How does the community think an RIR should best verify information in the application process today, and should that change as we approach the IPv4 event horizon? I think the current ARIN policies are

RE: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-13 Thread Michael . Dillon
They ask for it. Is the policy still that dedicated IP addresses for web hosts *should* only be used when technical justification exists? I really wish it would change to a requirement as we very frequently get new hosting customers who get angry when they find their site that doesn't

RE: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-13 Thread David Hubbard
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SSL is a technical justification for separate IP addresses for web hosts. Virtual servers is another technical justification for assigning multiple IP addresses to a single physical server. What I meant was we require a technical justification to give a dedicated IP

Re: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-13 Thread Donald Stahl
At some point, it will become cheaper to just deploy IPv6 than to do the things needed to get more IPv4 space. What's this week's forcast for the event horizon, anyhow? It keeps moving around That's what I'd like to know. Is the DoD deadline going to motivate anyone? When are we going to

Re: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-13 Thread Edward Lewis
At 10:36 -0500 11/13/06, John Curran wrote: A more interesting question might be: How does the community think an RIR should best verify information in the application process today, and should that change as we approach the IPv4 event horizon? IRIS. ;) ARIN is in a tricky place. It has

RE: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-13 Thread chuck goolsbee
At 11:41 AM -0500 11/13/06, David Hubbard wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] SSL is a technical justification for separate IP addresses for web hosts. Virtual servers is another technical justification for assigning multiple IP addresses to a single physical server. What I meant was we

RE: IP adresss management verification

2006-11-13 Thread David Hubbard
From: chuck goolsbee ** I assume it is myth, but I've never heard anyone from Google make any statements that definitively debunks it. Debunking this pervasive among webmasters and SEO Experts myth sure would be a very UN-evil thing to do if true (Hint hint you Google-folk!) Actually