Re: Juniper M10i sufficient for BGP, or go with M20?

2007-05-15 Thread Warren Kumari
On May 14, 2007, at 7:57 PM, Donald Stahl wrote: I'm very happy about the Juniper devices I manage. They're expensive but very reliable, and their config interface has lots of unique features. Juniper's greatest asset over Cisco is the single software image for all their systems. In my

Re: Juniper M10i sufficient for BGP, or go with M20?

2007-05-14 Thread sthaug
M7i is a very, very attractive lab/spare box, but this company wants carrier class - dual engine M10i are the minimum. An M10i will handle a full routing table just fine. Note that as with other hardware based forwarding boxes memory on the RE is just one of several resources you need to

Re: Juniper M10i sufficient for BGP, or go with M20?

2007-05-14 Thread sthaug
I don't know much about Juniper but I'm about to learn with a new job. If I'm going to take full routes from a couple of upstreams and have a couple of peers will the M10i (768M max) be enough or is the M20 (2048M max) a better choice. Layout here is such that I'd expect to use a

Re: Juniper M10i sufficient for BGP, or go with M20?

2007-05-14 Thread Scott Weeks
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: : I don't know much about Juniper but I'm about to learn : with a new job. If your experience is like mine, you'll fall in love with the M-series and absolutely despise the E-series (Unisphere) : If I'm going to take full routes from a couple of upstreams : and

Re: Juniper M10i sufficient for BGP, or go with M20?

2007-05-14 Thread Donald Stahl
Strange. My rep always took pride in the fact that M- and T- series devices have no overcommit at all.. Maybe things changed, we use no quad-gig. Many of Junipers cards for the M7/M10 are oversubscribed- just look at their pdf's on the subject:

Re: Juniper M10i sufficient for BGP, or go with M20?

2007-05-14 Thread Hyunseog Ryu
If I remember correctly from M5/M10, they uses FEB (built-into-Chassis FPC version), and each FEB (row) has restriction up to 3.6Gbps rate. So total aggregated bandwidth can not go over this limit. If you install 4GE (4 of 1-port GigE PIC) in same FEB row, you can use 0.9Gbps in average per

Juniper M10i sufficient for BGP, or go with M20?

2007-05-13 Thread Neal Rauhauser
I don't know much about Juniper but I'm about to learn with a new job. If I'm going to take full routes from a couple of upstreams and have a couple of peers will the M10i (768M max) be enough or is the M20 (2048M max) a better choice. Layout here is such that I'd expect to use a single

Re: Juniper M10i sufficient for BGP, or go with M20?

2007-05-13 Thread Joe Abley
On 13-May-2007, at 15:33, Neal Rauhauser wrote: I don't know much about Juniper but I'm about to learn with a new job. If I'm going to take full routes from a couple of upstreams and have a couple of peers will the M10i (768M max) be enough or is the M20 (2048M max) a better choice. I

Re: Juniper M10i sufficient for BGP, or go with M20?

2007-05-13 Thread Neal Rauhauser
M7i is a very, very attractive lab/spare box, but this company wants carrier class - dual engine M10i are the minimum. John Crain wrote: You might even consider the m7i they can use the same cards JC On May 13, 2007, at 3:26 PM, Joe Abley wrote: On 13-May-2007, at 15:33, Neal

Re: Juniper M10i sufficient for BGP, or go with M20?

2007-05-13 Thread Donald Stahl
I don't know much about Juniper but I'm about to learn with a new job. If I'm going to take full routes from a couple of upstreams and have a couple of peers will the M10i (768M max) be enough or is the M20 (2048M max) a better choice. Layout here is such that I'd expect to use a single quad

Re: Juniper M10i sufficient for BGP, or go with M20?

2007-05-13 Thread Chris L. Morrow
On Sun, 13 May 2007, Donald Stahl wrote: I don't know much about Juniper but I'm about to learn with a new job. If I'm going to take full routes from a couple of upstreams and have a couple of peers will the M10i (768M max) be enough or is the M20 (2048M max) a better choice.

Re: Juniper M10i sufficient for BGP, or go with M20?

2007-05-13 Thread Donald Stahl
choice. Layout here is such that I'd expect to use a single quad gigabit port ethernet blade in each of a pair of M10i/M20 to achieve redundancy. he said 'blade' to which I read '4 pics in a FPC'... maybe it's a terminology thing? Neal? The M10i doesn't have an FPC blade per se (it's built