From: Richard A Steenbergen [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Date: Wed, 6 Sep 2006 01:24:07 -0400
To: nanog@merit.edu nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: NNTP feed.
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 04:29:54AM +0200, Daniel Roesen wrote:
If folks would end abusing NNTP for file distribution via flooding
Does anyone know if cogent offers NNTP feeds to their DIA customers?
Before we take the plunge we need to know and the sales fellas werent
able to tell me this.
-Drew
They might as aleron used to offer it. That comes with the disclaimer
that I have never tried it.
John :)
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of
Drew Weaver
Sent: Tuesday, September 05, 2006 9:10 AM
To: nanog@merit.edu
Subject: NNTP feed
What is the current BCP to establish a well-connected news server nowadays?
All the guys I used to know who were experts in this... um, don't run
news servers anymore. :) If you want to privately offer me an NNTP feed
that would be welcome -- we'll even peer with you because of it.
Thanks
we don't run one either... :)
The last person I know who was running one, was in the proccess of killing it.
john :)
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From: Deepak Jain [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tue 9/5/2006 3:37 PM
To: John van Oppen
Cc: Drew Weaver; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: NNTP feed
traffic comment grin
Otherwise said: if you are setting up a full-nntp-feed capable box,
you'll have to dig nice and deep into that money bag but on the other
hand there seems to be loads of people doing a lot of posting and
reading, where else would the volume of that traffic come from
On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Jeroen Massar wrote:
seems to be loads of people doing a lot of posting and reading, where else
would the volume of that traffic come from?
I guess experiences differ from different organisations, when I discovered
that server-server traffic was at least 10x more than
On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Mikael Abrahamsson wrote:
On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Jeroen Massar wrote:
seems to be loads of people doing a lot of posting and reading, where else
would the volume of that traffic come from?
I guess experiences differ from different organisations, when I discovered
Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED]; Drew Weaver; nanog@merit.edu
Subject: Re: NNTP feed.
John van Oppen wrote:
we don't run one either... :)
The last person I know who was running one, was in the proccess of killing
it.
Apparently you found some people killing it off, while there are
actually
Thus spake Greg Boehnlein [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I came to much the same conclusion several years ago, when we finally
decommissioned our NNTP Servers and out-sourced the service to an
outside company. Running an NNTP server was a full-time job, and the
500 or so people that used it didn't generate
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Stephen Sprunk wrote:
(Besides, all the binaries on usenet are available via BitTorrent somewhere
anyways; NNTP does not make a good piracy protocol from a technical
perspective, only from an anonymity one)
Do you believe anonymity has a low intrinsic value for internet
Stephen == Stephen Sprunk [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
[NNTP servers]
Stephen OTOH, it might be doable if you didn't carry the
Stephen alt.binaries groups; those account for well over 90% of the
Stephen bytes on usenet today,
More like 99.9%, and an even larger proportion if you filter out
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, John van Oppen wrote:
we don't run one either... :)
The last person I know who was running one, was in the proccess of killing it.
I used to run one, but haven't, since about 2000 :) The provider i worked
for at the time got out of the game and outsourced news because
Sorry to reply to my own post, but after reading further into this thread,
I saw that my estimation of substantially higher than 350 GB/day shows
how long I've been out of the business of driving large news servers :)
jms
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006, Justin M. Streiner wrote:
On Tue, 5 Sep 2006,
On Tue, Sep 05, 2006 at 10:27:29PM -0400, Justin M. Streiner wrote:
providing good news service requires tons of disk space and loads
of network bandwidth,
I'm getting the impression that providing good news service doesn't need
that, only providing good warez service does (and this includes
On Wed, 6 Sep 2006, Daniel Roesen wrote:
If folks would end abusing NNTP for file distribution via flooding, the
matter would quickly be resolved. Am i naive?
The technical term might be trolling . Binaries have made up the vast
majority of Usenet bandwidth since at least the early 90s so
On Wed, Sep 06, 2006 at 04:29:54AM +0200, Daniel Roesen wrote:
If folks would end abusing NNTP for file distribution via flooding, the
matter would quickly be resolved. Am i naive?
There is a reason Usenet hasn't gone the way of Gopher, and I assure you
it isn't because of the the copious
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