David Schwartz wrote:
If you want to do this, your notification has to be explicit. I suggest,
"You have no privacy here. Everything you are doing is being logged." Notice
that when you tell people the truth, it starts looking less like what you
wanted to do in the first place.
Well, that m
On Tue, 03 Dec 2002 10:27:49 -0500, David Charlap wrote:
>I don't know what (if any) legal right of privacy is in Nigeria, but I
>would suspect that a publicly posted policy notice (like "management
>reserves the right to monitor all traffic" and a strict TOS policy)
>should mitigate any legal c
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Sent: Tuesday, December 03, 2002 10:35 AM
Subject: Re: Networking in Africa...
>
> > > The most recent? Lagos, Sep 2002.
> >
> > africa is quite large. lagos constitutes but a small portion of it.
>
> but I am being told that Lagos is the center of Afri
> I don't know what (if any) legal right of privacy is in Nigeria, but I
> would suspect that a publicly posted policy notice (like "management
> reserves the right to monitor all traffic" and a strict TOS policy)
> should mitigate any legal concerns about doing this.
Fascinating. Nigeria now
Folks,
> judging any continent on a single country is extremely closed-minded.
As this conversation is becoming. Please, this petty discussion is drifting
pretty far offtopic.
chris
>
> but I am being told that Lagos is the center of Africa by such knowledgeble
> persons who claim that there are *gasp* thousands *gasp* of cyber-cafe's in
> Lagos. I mean since there no thousands cyber-cafe's in the entire US, I am
> sure presence of thousands of them in a rather small city means
So what exactly do people do in regards to Web spam? I block tcp/80
but would like to hear what others are doing.
Block or rate limit? I would assume that blocking port 80 in a
cybercafe wouldn't really work out in the long run.
One possible solution might be to force all traffic through a
> > The most recent? Lagos, Sep 2002.
>
> africa is quite large. lagos constitutes but a small portion of it.
but I am being told that Lagos is the center of Africa by such knowledgeble
persons who claim that there are *gasp* thousands *gasp* of cyber-cafe's in
Lagos. I mean since there no thous
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Try finding some IP connectivity while in Nigeria. You would be
> > hard-pressed, even if you are willing to pay enormous $$.
>
> Having worked and lived in Nigeria while consulting with several ISPs
> there, I can assure you this is incorrect. In large cities
> The most recent? Lagos, Sep 2002.
africa is quite large. lagos constitutes but a small portion of it.
> > Try finding some IP connectivity while in Nigeria.
>
> do tell us your personal experience and when it was.
The most recent? Lagos, Sep 2002.
Alex
> > Try finding some IP connectivity while in Nigeria. You would be
> > hard-pressed, even if you are willing to pay enormous $$.
>
> I get lots and lots and lots of spam from cybercafes located in Nigeria,
> as well as apologies from both the cafes and the upstream networks. I
> realize this do
On Tuesday, December 3, 2002, at 02:14 AM, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
Interestingly enough, I got the following today from a Cybercafe in
Nigeria that I had blocked:
>cheers
>Adeyinka
So what exactly do people do in regards to Web spam? I block tcp/80
but would like to hear what others
> > i don't know if I've ever actually received 1 of those spam messages from
> > a host inside Nigeria
>
> wow, i seem to get several per day. would you like some, i can setup an
exploder
> for some of my spam if anyones interested? ;)
and they're all actually sent/relayed through a host in N
At 12:22 AM 03-12-02 +0200, fingers wrote:
> > i don't know if I've ever actually received 1 of those spam messages from
> > a host inside Nigeria
>
> wow, i seem to get several per day. would you like some, i can setup an
exploder
> for some of my spam if anyones interested? ;)
and they're al
At 05:36 PM 02-12-02 -0500, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> >> fyi, all countries in africa are ip connected. dunno how big your
> >> hands are, but there are over 50 countries in africa.
> >
> >Pardon me for not counting "allocated" addresses as IP connectivity.
>
> You're pardoned, but just barely
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Robbie Honerkamp wrote:
>
> [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> > Try finding some IP connectivity while in Nigeria. You would be
> > hard-pressed, even if you are willing to pay enormous $$.
>
> Having worked and lived in Nigeria while consulting with several ISPs
> there, I can as
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, Dan Hollis wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, fingers wrote:
> > i don't know if I've ever actually received 1 of those spam messages from
> > a host inside Nigeria
>
> About 45% of the nigerian scams I receive originate directly from nigerian
> IPs, another 45% originate from a2
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Try finding some IP connectivity while in Nigeria. You would be
> hard-pressed, even if you are willing to pay enormous $$.
Having worked and lived in Nigeria while consulting with several ISPs
there, I can assure you this is incorrect. In large cities such as
Lagos, yo
>Who cares? It's not like one of you got ripped off by 419. Load up
>SpamAssassin and forget about it.
SpamAssassin doesn't block 419 spam very well because the messages
keep changing. Since I get at least a thousand 419 spams for every
actual message from West Africa, the reasonable response is
fingers wrote:
There seem to be a lot of ISPs who get little slices of IP from
satellite carriers like emperion.net in Denmark. Much of the 419 spam
I get from Nigeria, Cote d'Ivoire, Ghana, and other west African
countries originates in cybercafes with satellite links.
i do
> Try finding some IP connectivity while in Nigeria.
do tell us your personal experience and when it was.
randy
>>> Would that friend be so kind as to name more than a handful places in
>>> Africa with IP connectivity (multinational companies do not count).
>> fyi, all countries in africa are ip connected. dunno how big your
>> hands are, but there are over 50 countries in africa.
> Pardon me for not count
Who cares? It's not like one of you got ripped off by 419. Load up
SpamAssassin and forget about it. Kinda sad how a thread that
started about finding networkers in Africa turns into derogatory
remarks about countries you have no clue about.
Shut up and move along.
--
Omachonu Ogali
Information
> Try finding some IP connectivity while in Nigeria. You would be
> hard-pressed, even if you are willing to pay enormous $$.
I get lots and lots and lots of spam from cybercafes located in Nigeria,
as well as apologies from both the cafes and the upstream networks. I
realize this doesn't fit wi
As is the Secret Servicethey have an address for reporting as well:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
At 14:11 12/2/02 -0800, you wrote:
The FBI unit working these cases will be happy to confirm most do
originate in Africa even if the money ultimately ends up elsewhere.
http://www.fbi.gov/majcases/fraud/
> Correction... *very* *few* satellite links.
actually, some countries have _mostly_ sat links for atleast their intl
connectivity. and very small links at that. some countries, where allowed
to, run vsat radio or microwave for everything from backbone links to
local loop for customers.
if you'r
> >> fyi, all countries in africa are ip connected. dunno how big your
> >> hands are, but there are over 50 countries in africa.
> >
> >Pardon me for not counting "allocated" addresses as IP connectivity.
>
> You're pardoned, but just barely. Try some traceroutes, and you'll
> find that every
> > i don't know if I've ever actually received 1 of those spam messages from
> > a host inside Nigeria
>
> wow, i seem to get several per day. would you like some, i can setup an exploder
> for some of my spam if anyones interested? ;)
and they're all actually sent/relayed through a host in Nige
> i don't know if I've ever actually received 1 of those spam messages from
> a host inside Nigeria
wow, i seem to get several per day. would you like some, i can setup an exploder
for some of my spam if anyones interested? ;)
Steve
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fingers
Sent: Monday, December 02, 2002 2:00 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: Networking in Africa...
> There seem to be a lot of ISPs who get little slices of IP from
> satellite carriers like emperion.net in Denmark. Much of the 41
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002, fingers wrote:
> i don't know if I've ever actually received 1 of those spam messages from
> a host inside Nigeria
About 45% of the nigerian scams I receive originate directly from nigerian
IPs, another 45% originate from a2000.nl in the netherlands, and the last
10% from la
> There seem to be a lot of ISPs who get little slices of IP from
> satellite carriers like emperion.net in Denmark. Much of the 419 spam
> I get from Nigeria, Cote d'Ivoire, Ghana, and other west African
> countries originates in cybercafes with satellite links.
i don't know if I've ever actual
>> fyi, all countries in africa are ip connected. dunno how big your
>> hands are, but there are over 50 countries in africa.
>
>Pardon me for not counting "allocated" addresses as IP connectivity.
You're pardoned, but just barely. Try some traceroutes, and you'll
find that every country in Afr
> > Would that friend be so kind as to name more than a handful places in
> > Africa with IP connectivity (multinational companies do not count).
>
> fyi, all countries in africa are ip connected. dunno how big your
> hands are, but there are over 50 countries in africa.
Pardon me for not coun
> Would that friend be so kind as to name more than a handful places in
> Africa with IP connectivity (multinational companies do not count).
Hi Alex,
Access beyond the capital cities varies, but as several folks have
pointed out, there is IP connectivity to all countries in the region, run
by l
> Would that friend be so kind as to name more than a handful places in
> Africa with IP connectivity (multinational companies do not count).
fyi, all countries in africa are ip connected. dunno how big your
hands are, but there are over 50 countries in africa.
randy
On Mon, Dec 02, 2002 at 10:24:11AM -0800, Joel Jaeggli wrote:
>
> On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> > >
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > A friend of mine is working on one of the committees for next years
> > > Supercomputing conference and noticed that, in the past, they'd had
> >
On Mon, 02 Dec 2002 20:29:57 +0200, fingers <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> said:
> while we're not chasing elephants off the runway, or killing
> lions/tigers/each other on the sandroads, some people actually spend their
> time in the confines of a building of sorts earning a living. quite often
> this even
> Would that friend be so kind as to name more than a handful places in Africa
> with IP connectivity (multinational companies do not count).
while we're not chasing elephants off the runway, or killing
lions/tigers/each other on the sandroads, some people actually spend their
time in the confine
On Mon, 2 Dec 2002 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>
> >
> > Hello,
> >
> > A friend of mine is working on one of the committees for next years
> > Supercomputing conference and noticed that, in the past, they'd had
> > participants from most continents but none from Africa. Does anyone
> > know of
>
> Hello,
>
> A friend of mine is working on one of the committees for next years
> Supercomputing conference and noticed that, in the past, they'd had
> participants from most continents but none from Africa. Does anyone
> know of a good organization/group/etc which we could spam with our
>
Have you tried AFNOG ?
http://www.afnog.org/
They have a mailing list
AfNOG Mailing List
The AfNOG mailing list is established to provide a forum for the
exchange of technical information and the discussion of specific
implementation issues that require cooperation among African network
ser
Hello,
A friend of mine is working on one of the committees for next years
Supercomputing conference and noticed that, in the past, they'd had
participants from most continents but none from Africa. Does anyone
know of a good organization/group/etc which we could spam with our
conference notic
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