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Date: Wed, 25 Feb 2004 00:27:00 -0500
From: Nick Feamster [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: New Draft Document: De-boganising New Address Blocks
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On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 06:28:48PM +0100, Daniel Karrenberg wrote
The RIPE NCC has prepared a draft document titled De-Bogonising New
Address Blocks:
That is a misleading title.
The problem is that ISPs cannot react quickly enough
to open filters when new ranges are allocated. The proposed
solution is to provide advance notification. I suppose this
could
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 04:32:46PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The RIPE NCC has prepared a draft document titled De-Bogonising New
Address Blocks:
That is a misleading title.
The problem is that ISPs cannot react quickly enough
to open filters when new ranges are allocated. The
On 24.02 16:32, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
That is a misleading title.
I thought it was to the point and rather cute ;-).
The problem is that ISPs cannot react quickly enough
to open filters when new ranges are allocated. The proposed
solution is to provide advance notification. I suppose
Daniel Karrenberg wrote:
Correct, but only in the absence of more specific filtering.
the problem this proposal aims to correct is the increasing number of
false positives caused by the apparent *serious* lag in relatively
static bogon filtering.
Do you think this can be fixed after vendors
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Timothy Brown wrote:
On Tue, Feb 24, 2004 at 04:32:46PM +, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
The RIPE NCC has prepared a draft document titled De-Bogonising New
Address Blocks:
That is a misleading title.
I agree, consindering the block is still a bogon until it has
Completewhois bogon ip lists provide data on ip blocks that are not allocated
by RIRs to ISPs (rather then just list of /8 blocks not allocated by IANA
to RIRs as for example cymru does). The list can be used for anti-spam
filtering through dns using rbl-like feed at
William,
william(at)elan.net wrote:
[http://www.cymru.com/BGP/bogon-rs.html]
Unfortunetly this is kind-of a bgp hack and as has
been already mentioned it needs very carefull
implemention
This is not positive thinking. I don't consider this a hack (if it is,
then the draft that proposes to
Timothy Brown wrote:
I disagree with the view that it is a hack.
It's no more a hack than using a DNS feed;
I concur with this. Besides, from the pragmatic side of the consumer,
if it does solve a problem (albeit short or medium term) I don't care
much if it's a hack.
Hint: all this bogon or
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Timothy Brown wrote:
Completewhois bogon ip lists provide data on ip blocks that are not allocated
by RIRs to ISPs (rather then just list of /8 blocks not allocated by IANA
to RIRs as for example cymru does). The list can be used for anti-spam
filtering through dns
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Michel Py wrote:
William,
william(at)elan.net wrote:
[http://www.cymru.com/BGP/bogon-rs.html]
Unfortunetly this is kind-of a bgp hack and as has
been already mentioned it needs very carefull
implemention
This is not positive thinking. I don't consider this
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Michel Py wrote:
Hint: all this bogon or related filtering is not a long-term solution.
We need it now, but the long term solution is some kind of
authentication that will allow only the rightful owner of a block to
announce it.
This I completely agree with. The correct
BTW - in the email it meant to be just stand DOS (Original IBM PC Operating
System based on CP/M), I automaticly write small o now when using this
word because of how I've used it in the last sevaral years
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, william(at)elan.net wrote:
On Tue, 24 Feb 2004, Michel Py
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