that idea!! :-)
scott
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Is it bad, If they (your sysadmins) understand your backbone infrastructure
and understand such things, as MTU MTU discovery, knows about
ACL filters (without extra details) and existing limitations? They are not
required to know about VPN mode or T3 card configuration, but they must
understand ba
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From: "Scott Weeks" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Alexei Roudn
> I find it ironic that one of the presentations at the last nanog was about
> a system kind of like that:
> http://www.nanog.org/mtg-0402/gauthier.html
> and that we had some luser on the nanog30 wireless network infected by SQL
> slammer.
Well it wouldnt be nanog without a few infections, passw
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Maybe NANOG needs to implement a system where you have to log
> in to a web page with your NANOG meeting passcode in order to
> get a usable IP address. Then, when an infected computer shows
> up we will know exactly whose it was. Might even be inter
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Randy Bush wrote:
: > No true in many cases. All I have to prove is it's not the network and
: > then I hand it off to the windows/*nix/ sysadmins. To prove
: > it's not the network, I don't need to know the end systems in any sort of
: > detail.
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: to pass the buck, one
On Mon, Mar 15, 2004 at 12:21:54PM -1000, Randy Bush wrote:
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> > No true in many cases. All I have to prove is it's not the network and
> > then I hand it off to the windows/*nix/ sysadmins. To prove
> > it's not the network, I don't need to know the end systems in any sort of
> > detail.
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> No true in many cases. All I have to prove is it's not the network and
> then I hand it off to the windows/*nix/ sysadmins. To prove
> it's not the network, I don't need to know the end systems in any sort of
> detail.
to pass the buck, one needs to know nothing. what makes a great noc
engin
detail.
scott
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not a good answer.
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From: "Pete Templin" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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> Laurence F. Sh
Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
Pete Templin wrote:
I didn't suggest saying "I'm not gonna do it". I just suggested "You
hired me to deploy dynamic routing on your statically-routed network.
What prompted you to think that I could configure site-wide anti-virus
services such that no one ever
John,
There are the beginnings of some wireless devices that are capable of
directing wireless clients to cease transmission with L2 link control
messages. These are just beginning to emerge, and unfortunately I'm
certain that with only a matter of time people will write drivers that
ignore such
On 15 Mar 2004 08:01:15 -0500
"Robert E. Seastrom" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Maybe NANOG needs to implement a system where you have to log
> > in to a web page with your NANOG meeting passcode in order to
> > get a usable IP address. Then, when an infected computer shows
[...]
> Seconded. T
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004 04:57:03 -0500 (EST), Sean Donelan wrote:
> NANOG has less than 500 attendees,
>yet has about the same number as infected computers as any other
>ad-hoc network population.
If true this is a very significant fact
Pete Templin wrote:
Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
Pete Templin wrote:
There's a reason I've gotten out of small ISP consulting - I don't do
Windows, and I'm getting overrun by Linux corrosion slowly. I route,
I switch, I help with securing networks. And I do wear a lot of hats
at my day j
Laurence F. Sheldon, Jr. wrote:
Pete Templin wrote:
There's a reason I've gotten out of small ISP consulting - I don't do
Windows, and I'm getting overrun by Linux corrosion slowly. I route,
I switch, I help with securing networks. And I do wear a lot of hats
at my day job, but I remind them
Pete Templin wrote:
> Employee to PHB: "You hired me to provide core network engineering and
lead the level 2 network ops staff. Tell me again why you want me to
provide any server engineering, if you knew my strengths when you hired
me?"
There's a reason I've gotten out of small ISP consulti
Robert E. Seastrom wrote:
Seconded. This is dirt simple to do. If we believe in public
humiliation, a list of infected machines and their owners (along with
a suitably snarky "don't hire these top network engineers to maintain
your fleet of windows boxes" message) could be displayed on the
pro
> a suitably snarky "don't hire these top network engineers to maintain
> your fleet of windows boxes" message) could be displayed on the
Is this an opt-in list? I'd like to opt-in. Now. Nu. Proto. A lifetime ago.
[EMAIL PROTECTED] writes:
> Maybe NANOG needs to implement a system where you have to log
> in to a web page with your NANOG meeting passcode in order to
> get a usable IP address. Then, when an infected computer shows
> up we will know exactly whose it was. Might even be interesting
> for a res
>I expect every NANOG conference from now on will be filled with
>announcements asking people to please fix their computers because
>worms are killing the network. NANOG has less than 500 attendees,
>yet has about the same number as infected computers as any other
>ad-hoc network population.
May
On Mon, 15 Mar 2004, Petri Helenius wrote:
> I see this as a two different processes. There are definetly some
> individuals who have no help whatsoever with their computers and need
> the abuse/helpdesk to walk them through the disinfecting process.
Gartner estimates the total cost of ownership
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