Re: Qwest desires mesh to reduce unused standby capacity

2008-02-28 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008, Joe Abley wrote: > > On 28-Feb-2008, at 09:26, Adrian Chadd wrote: > > >Then you probably haven't been on the ass end of a continental fibre > >link > >drop. That actually mattered. > > If both sides of your SONET ring drop, then surely you're as dead in > the water as

Re: Qwest desires mesh to reduce unused standby capacity

2008-02-28 Thread Joe Abley
On 28-Feb-2008, at 09:26, Adrian Chadd wrote: Then you probably haven't been on the ass end of a continental fibre link drop. That actually mattered. If both sides of your SONET ring drop, then surely you're as dead in the water as you would be if each side of the ring was being used as

Re: Qwest desires mesh to reduce unused standby capacity

2008-02-28 Thread Adrian Chadd
On Thu, Feb 28, 2008, Joe Abley wrote: > > > On 28-Feb-2008, at 01:56, Paul Wall wrote: > > >UU/MFS tried running IP on the 'protect' path of their SONET rings > >10 years ago. It didn't work then. > > Well, it works so long as whoever was trying to troubleshoot the > circuits at 3am on US

Re: Qwest desires mesh to reduce unused standby capacity

2008-02-28 Thread Joe Abley
On 28-Feb-2008, at 01:56, Paul Wall wrote: UU/MFS tried running IP on the 'protect' path of their SONET rings 10 years ago. It didn't work then. Well, it works so long as whoever was trying to troubleshoot the circuits at 3am on US Thanksgiving understands that having the system "switch

Re: Qwest desires mesh to reduce unused standby capacity

2008-02-27 Thread Paul Wall
On Wed, Feb 27, 2008 at 9:37 PM, Frank Bulk - iNAME <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > To keep this OT as much as possible, my question is if a > mesh-configuration > of backup routes (where one link could provide 'protection' for many)

Re: Qwest desires mesh to reduce unused standby capacity

2008-02-27 Thread Joel Jaeggli
Frank Bulk - iNAME wrote: To keep this OT as much as possible, my question is if a mesh-configuration of backup routes (where one link could provide 'protection' for many) would be considered a sufficient replacement for SONET rings, or if the Qwest CTO is really trying to get out of providing

Qwest desires mesh to reduce unused standby capacity

2008-02-27 Thread Frank Bulk - iNAME
I found this section of a Telephony Online article interesting: Though networking trends point toward an evolution to mesh networks, nationwide carrier networks currently lack the physical diversity that would help carriers realize the benefits of true mesh