Re: (UPDATE) Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)

2004-06-30 Thread Sabri Berisha
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 09:17:36PM -0400, Richard A Steenbergen wrote: Hi, There are many instances in the business world where a court prohibits you from disconnecting services to a customer so that their business can continue to operate, such as during chapter 11 bankruptcy proceedings.

Re: (UPDATE) Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)

2004-06-30 Thread Dan Hollis
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Sabri Berisha wrote: And then I'm not even taking into account the fact that the UCI/Pegasus is a well-known spammer (http://www.spews.org/html/S2649.html). I imagine NAC is pretty tired of being RBL'd. Can't blame them for being eager to rid themselves of this pest. The

Re: (UPDATE) Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)

2004-06-30 Thread william(at)elan.net
On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Dan Hollis wrote: On Wed, 30 Jun 2004, Sabri Berisha wrote: And then I'm not even taking into account the fact that the UCI/Pegasus is a well-known spammer (http://www.spews.org/html/S2649.html). I imagine NAC is pretty tired of being RBL'd. Can't blame them for

Re: (UPDATE) Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)

2004-06-30 Thread Doug White
As more and more of the facts come to light, it appears that NAC has brought much of this on themselves, and will need to dedicate the legal resources to counter the claims of Pegasus, in fact their own survival may well depend on it. I have to admit I have little sympathy for them or any

Re: (UPDATE) Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)

2004-06-30 Thread Carlos Friacas
Question: What would be the practical effects of a court decision if a 3rd party ISP: 1) buys NAC; 2) inherit the PA space; 3) and *operating* from abroad (non-US), anounces the same portion of PA space the court said belongs to the customer. On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, Alex Rubenstein wrote: *

Re: (UPDATE) Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)

2004-06-30 Thread Adam Rothschild
On 2004-06-30-07:38:07, Doug White [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: As more and more of the facts come to light, it appears that NAC has brought much of this on themselves, and will need to dedicate the legal resources to counter the claims of Pegasus, in fact their own survival may well depend on

Re: (UPDATE) Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)

2004-06-30 Thread Patrick W Gilmore
On Jun 30, 2004, at 7:38 AM, Doug White wrote: As more and more of the facts come to light, it appears that NAC has brought much of this on themselves, and will need to dedicate the legal resources to counter the claims of Pegasus, in fact their own survival may well depend on it. I have to

Re: (UPDATE) Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)

2004-06-30 Thread Patrick W Gilmore
On Jun 30, 2004, at 4:58 AM, william(at)elan.net wrote: I do not see it that way, from what is known so far, NAC for some time has been trying to either buy pegasus or force them to sign long term agreement with terms that would be very beneficial to NAC financially. I'm just wondering how that

Re: (UPDATE) Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)

2004-06-30 Thread Paul Wouters
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, Alex Rubenstein wrote: What I AM looking for is a commentary from the internet community, strictly relating to the fact that a judge has issued a TRO that forces an ISP (NAC) to allow a third-party, who WILL NOT be a Customer of NAC, to be able to use IP Space allocated

Re: (UPDATE) Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)

2004-06-30 Thread James
As more and more of the facts come to light, please do some research before you accuse an ASN a SpamBone just by looking at spamhaus Co. lists. They are a budget-fitting dedicated server + colocation service provider with over 1500 servers on the network premise. They've lacked certain planning

RE: (UPDATE) Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)

2004-06-30 Thread Michel Py
Matthew Crocker wrote: From my understanding the customer has their own IP space allocated by ARIN and has had that space for over a year. They have already had adequate time to transition to their own space. Agree: they could have their ARIN space routed to their equipment and begun the

Re: (UPDATE) Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)

2004-06-29 Thread Iljitsch van Beijnum
On 30-jun-04, at 1:47, Alex Rubenstein wrote: What I AM looking for is a commentary from the internet community, strictly relating to the fact that a judge has issued a TRO that forces an ISP (NAC) to allow a third-party, who WILL NOT be a Customer of NAC, to be able to use IP Space allocated to

Re: (UPDATE) Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)

2004-06-29 Thread Richard A Steenbergen
On Tue, Jun 29, 2004 at 07:47:54PM -0400, Alex Rubenstein wrote: What I AM looking for is a commentary from the internet community, strictly relating to the fact that a judge has issued a TRO that forces an ISP (NAC) to allow a third-party, who WILL NOT be a Customer of NAC, to be able to

RE: (UPDATE) Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)

2004-06-29 Thread David Schwartz
What I AM looking for is a commentary from the internet community, strictly relating to the fact that a judge has issued a TRO that forces an ISP (NAC) to allow a third-party, who WILL NOT be a Customer of NAC, to be able to use IP Space allocated to NAC. In other words, I am asking people

RE: (UPDATE) Can a Customer take their IP's with them? (Court says yes!)

2004-06-29 Thread Brian Wallingford
On Tue, 29 Jun 2004, David Schwartz wrote: : : : What I AM looking for is a commentary from the internet community, : strictly relating to the fact that a judge has issued a TRO that forces an : ISP (NAC) to allow a third-party, who WILL NOT be a Customer of NAC, to be : able to use IP Space