On Wed, 22 May 2002, Kristian P. Jackson wrote:
Perhaps a bachelors in network
engineering is in order?
I'm afraid there's not enough stuff one has to know to sucessfully
design networks to fill more than one-semester course.
--vadim
Andrew,
The college I am attending, Strayer Univeristy, has a B.S. degree
in Internetworking. While it is kinds geared towards Cisco the good part
is that they will give credit for life experience etc. I am getting credit
for 8 classes due to my work experience in the field. The also
In the immortal words of Paul Vixie ([EMAIL PROTECTED]):
The trouble is, often times I'd rather hire the world's smartest garbage
man. I never forget that when I got done interviewing for my first full
time programming job I went back to my job fixing cars and pumping gas, and
my fallback
?
Yours in Networking,
Paul A Flores
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I would add
On Wed, May 22, 2002 at 11:16:24AM -0700, Christopher J. Wolff wrote:
I would add to that statement: Requiring a technology certification is
equally as obsurd.
I think you mean absurd, a word you should have heard a lot by now.
I've been told I could pass the Emperor-Level CCIE test;
I once dared to require candidates to submit written answers to three essay
questions (200 to 300 words), along with their applications. The questions
were about the technical subject, but the purpose in asking was to see if
they could spell, and write in complete sentences.
We did a formal
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I would add to that statement: Requiring a technology certification is
equally as obsurd. I've been told I could pass the Emperor-Level CCIE
test; however, I do not believe it will add more value for my customers.
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On Wed, 22 May 2002, Rowland, Alan D wrote:
Put another way, when you take that expensive car of yours in for service
(you do have one if you're successful in this industry, right? ;) ), do you
go to Joe's Garage (apologies to all named Joe) or a dealer/service center
with certified
Of
Rowland, Alan D
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While the effectiveness of degree requirements may be argued, they are
efficient. When your HR department gets hundreds or thousands of
applications
My two cents:
From what I have found most colleges in the area of the world that I am in
(New England) focus their BCS studies on programing. Completely unrelated to
the area of anything network related. This may not be the case everywhere.
Maybe the industry leaders should assist the education
Stoned koalas drooled eucalyptus spit in awe as Christopher J. Wolff
exclaimed:
I take my new volvo to the local equivalent of Joe's Garage for
regular (3000 mile) service. Joe is not volvo certified, but they do
let me watch over their shoulder to make sure everything is perfect.
The
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Stoned koalas drooled eucalyptus spit in awe as Christopher J. Wolff
exclaimed:
I take my new volvo to the local equivalent of Joe's Garage for
regular (3000 mile) service. Joe is not volvo
On Wed, 22 May 2002 16:40:27 -0400
Kristian P. Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
network engineers, just as a bunch of network engineers are no more
qualified to program. Perhaps a bachelors in network engineering is in
order?
We actually have that - or something close to it. We are slowly
: Certification or College degrees? Was: RE: list problems?
On Wed, 22 May 2002 16:40:27 -0400
Kristian P. Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
network engineers, just as a bunch of network engineers are no more
qualified to program. Perhaps a bachelors in network engineering is in
order?
We
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On Wed, 22 May 2002 16:40:27 -0400
Kristian P. Jackson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
network engineers, just as a bunch of network engineers
At 01:36 PM 5/22/2002 -0500, Paul A Flores wrote:
If your resume shows more than 4 jobs in the last 3 years (and you didn't
get laid off), what does THAT stay about your ability to 'stick with'
something?
That you worked on the Internet in the late 90s?
(Had to post to see if I could
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Valdis is from VT, so I hope he's listening. Why
couldn't we as a networking community sit down and come up with a degree
program that goes from BS to PhD? Sure it can touch on basic programming
and basic processor design, but it would be more heavily weighted towards
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